[Elecraft] K2 power output measurement accuracy?

2006-05-24 Thread Darwin, Keith
My K2 and my watt meter do not agree. When I set the K2 power output at 5 watts I get almost 10 according to the external watt meter. Setting K2 power output at about 12 watts gives something between 15 and 20 out on the external meter. At settings above about 13 watts on the K2 knob, I get the

Re: [Elecraft] K2 power output measurement accuracy?

2006-05-24 Thread Curt
I tried TWO good watt meters on the K2 and I found that the K2 is NOT accurate. The ONLY place I found it to be accurate is at exactly two watts. I also found that my K2/100 will go down to 100 Mw then jump to just over one watt, then to over to three and etc, it's not a smooth transition. I

Re: [Elecraft] K2 power output measurement accuracy?

2006-05-24 Thread Stewart Baker
100 MW now that's what I call QRPP ! When is the next Elecraft QRO amp due ? :) 73 Stewart G3RXQ On Wed, 24 May 2006 07:45:19 -0700 (PDT), Curt wrote: I tried TWO good watt meters on the K2 and I found that the K2 is NOT accurate. The ONLY place I found it to be accurate is at exactly two

RE: [Elecraft] K2 power output measurement accuracy?

2006-05-24 Thread Don Wilhelm
The basic K2 power ouput indication is very accurate when operating into a 50 ohm non-reactive load. If it is driving anything other than that load, the indication will be inaccurate - he basic K2 does not have a wattmeter, t does have an RF Probe type detector which reports the RF Voltage to the

RE: [Elecraft] K2 power output measurement accuracy?

2006-05-24 Thread Don Wilhelm
Curt, The base K2 power reading is quite accurate if (and only if) the load is 50 ohms pure resistance. See my other post on the subject. Since you have a K2/100, the included wattmeter should be as accurate as your calibration of it. Prhaps you should re-do the calibration - or possibly both

RE: [Elecraft] K2 power output measurement accuracy?

2006-05-24 Thread Darwin, Keith
Thanks Don, So with my basic K2, I should get agreement between the K2's setting and its output when driving my 50 ohm dummy load. I'll check it that way and report back. I never completed the RF probe with the K2 (didn't need it). I assume it simply converts RF AC voltage into DC voltage

Re: [Elecraft] K2 power output measurement accuracy?

2006-05-24 Thread Larry Phipps
It's a standard diode peak detector I believe, so it would indicate 31.7 VDC (minus the drop) at 10 W for a 50 ohm load. I expect the drop is about 0.3 V. Larry N8LP Darwin, Keith wrote: Thanks Don, So with my basic K2, I should get agreement between the K2's setting and its output

RE: [Elecraft] K2 power output measurement accuracy?

2006-05-24 Thread Darwin, Keith
Ya lost me there Larry. P = E^^2 / R. R is 50 ohms, P is 10 watts, E works out to sqrt(500) or 22.36 volts. But are we talking RMS, peak, or peak-to-peak? Let's see, if my number is an RMS and you're number is peak, then 22.36 is about 22.4. Multiply by 1.41 and I get 31.6 Pretty close to

Re: [Elecraft] K2 power output measurement accuracy?

2006-05-24 Thread Rick Dettinger
- Original Message - From: Don Wilhelm [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Darwin, Keith [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 9:29 AM Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K2 power output measurement accuracy? K2 - all it takes is a known non-reactive 50 ohm load. I use 1

RE: [Elecraft] K2 power output measurement accuracy?

2006-05-24 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Rick, K7MW asked: With my K2 into a DL1, my WM-2 meter shows up to 20 % higher power than my DMM and slide rule indicates. Is the DL1 likely more accurate than my WM-2 meter. If so, I will recalibrate my K2 with the DL1 and DDM. Than I will have a stronger QRP signal and be able to work 300

Re: [Elecraft] K2 power output measurement accuracy?

2006-05-24 Thread Larry Phipps
At 15W the DL-1 is by far more accurate. It is probably within a few percent, based on a normal random distribution of resistor values, and 5% worst case if they're all off in the same direction. Keep in mind though that the resistance changes as temperature rises... so it's best to take a

[Elecraft] K2 Changing Output Power

2006-03-18 Thread Sam Joseph
Hi Guys, Just wondering if this is normal behavior: I have my K2 set up with my DL1 dummy load. With output set to 5 watts, when I hold tune I sometimes get about 4.6 and sometimes 5 - 5.something and sometimes 6 to 6. something. This happens on all bands and at various power settings. Is it

RE: [Elecraft] K2 Changing Output Power

2006-03-18 Thread Don Wilhelm
Sam, That is normal. The power control ALC is not active during TUNE in order to allow you to tune a manual antenna transmatch without causing the power to fluctuate wildly with changes in the load impedance as you tune. If you check the keydown level you will see more consistent power levels.

[Elecraft] K2/100 Output Power Control Non-functional

2005-09-04 Thread Brian F. Wruble
Hi all: I have a strange symptom with my K2/100 (S/N 4387). For all power settings above 0.1 but below the point at which the 100 watt amp kicks in, I get about 20 watts output. Once I go to high power, I get the full 100 watts output, regardless of where in the range of 20-100 the power

[Elecraft] K2 Power output Issue

2005-08-28 Thread Bob Wehking
I started to do the 40meter tx power test when I set the control for 2.0 watts, I get 2 watts out. When I set it for 5 watts, I get 5 watts but can get any higher no matter if I set the control to 10 or higher. I have the same issue on 80 meters. I haven't tried it on any other band. Bob

RE: [Elecraft] K2 Power output Issue

2005-08-28 Thread W3FPR - Don Wilhelm
Bob, First thing to look at is the power supply - Tap teh DISPLAY button and attempt to transmit at full power - if the voltage sags drastically, check the power supply, the connecting cable and the terminations for good connections, adequate cable size (16 gauge or larger). If the voltage stays

Fwd: Re: [Elecraft] k2 low output solution.

2005-08-13 Thread Pat N8VW
On Fri Aug 5 23:04:11 2005, Pat N8VW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : After some more debugging it appears that the ksb2 is causing the problem. Removing it returns tx power to normal levels. Some might say, good you don't need ssb anyway. Looking at the dac u2 I find that pin 5 is at 6v

Re: [Elecraft] k2 low output solution.

2005-08-06 Thread Mike Harris
G'day, After some more debugging it appears that the ksb2 is causing the problem. Removing it returns tx power to normal levels. Some might say, good you don't need ssb anyway. Sounds somehow familiar. Check the resistor packs. Regards, Mike VP8NO

Re: [Elecraft] k2 low output solution.

2005-08-06 Thread Matt Osborn
Hi Pat, There are three two signals fed into the KSB2 that directly affect power output. One is V RFDET which controls the base of Q1 and the other is ALC which is applied to the collector of Q1. Since removing Q1 makes no difference, V RFDET isn't likely the cause. But the ALC on the

Re: [Elecraft] k2 low output solution.

2005-08-05 Thread Pat N8VW
On 4 Aug 2005 22:40:19 -0400, Pat N8VW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : My K2 (2016) is suffering low output starting on 20 and wrapping around to 10 and 160 where I get little to no output. 80,40,30 are unaffected. Rx is great. Symptoms include, low output and inability to increase output beyond

[Elecraft] k2 low output

2005-08-04 Thread Pat N8VW
My K2 (2016) is suffering low output starting on 20 and wrapping around to 10 and 160 where I get little to no output. 80,40,30 are unaffected. Rx is great. Symptoms include, low output and inability to increase output beyond a certain level. Both symptons vary per band. When I'm less tired

[Elecraft] K2 Low Output Power

2005-05-03 Thread Wayne Reed
OK, I confess that after building control and receiver circuits [carefully] with no problems, I wanted to believe the rig was 100% after initial transmitter alignment. I put the rig on the air and made contact immediately. THEN: a friend loaned me his OHR WM-1 wattmeter so I could

Re: [Elecraft] K2 power output

2005-02-05 Thread G3VVT
In a message dated 05/02/05 17:50:03 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have noticed an irregularity on my K2 output. When setting the power level a 2 watts, and then using the ATU I get a reading on my SWR/power meter in the line of 4 watts. Setting power on the K2 to 3

RE: [Elecraft] K2 power output

2005-02-05 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Slater, VE5OA wrote: I have noticed an irregularity on my K2 output. When setting the power level a 2 watts, and then using the ATU I get a reading on my SWR/power meter in the line of 4 watts. Setting power on the K2 to 3 watts, I get 4 watts on the in line meter. I thought the meter might

RE: [Elecraft] K2 power output

2005-02-05 Thread W3FPR - Don Wilhelm
Slater, You likely do not have a problem. Take away the antenna, in-line SWR meter, and the ATU - and substitute a good 50 ohm dummy load. Be certain it is 50 ohms resistive and has no capacitive or inductive component at the frequency you want to do your testing (you can measure it with an

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