[Elecraft] K2 vs K3 re: final COST

2007-07-01 Thread DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL
A comparison of the kit K2 vs the modular K3 has previously been made: http://www.ac6rm.net/mailarchive/html/elecraft-list/2007-05/msg00837.html If you add on the cost of a builder, shipping from the builder back to you, then you have to REALLY want a K2 to cost-justify getting one now. Did

Re: [Elecraft] K2 vs K3 re: final COST

2007-07-01 Thread Jim Miller
Welcome to the economics of SMT: tape and reel vs poly bags for kits, relentless and unerring automated assembly and volume economics benefits of the basic parts. When added to the technical benefits of improved parasitics and thermals it puts thruhole on the endangered species list. 73 jim

Re: [Elecraft] K2 vs K3 re: final COST

2007-07-01 Thread Don Wilhelm
DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL wrote: Did Elecraft unintentionally put the K2 semi-official builders out to pasture? Doug, That may likely be true that a fair price to build the K2 will cast a shadow on the K3 kit price. Comparisons are being made between an assembled K2 and the K3 kit price. When

Re: [Elecraft] K2 vs K3 re: final COST

2007-07-01 Thread Julian G4ILO
On 7/1/07, Don Wilhelm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Comparisons are being made between an assembled K2 and the K3 kit price. When you use the assembled K3 prices, there is still room for the lower priced K2. the kit to assembled differential on the K3 adds $200 or more depending on the power

Re: [Elecraft] K2 vs K3 re: final COST

2007-07-01 Thread Fred (FL)
I doubt if it is SMT devices and auto-board stuffers that made the economy of K3 what it is. Electronic integration marches on. Remember the Collins 75A4, or Heath Marauder? Now it is possible to put just about everything, save the large L's, into siicon. I suspect one bright engineer on the

Re: [Elecraft] K2 vs K3 re: final COST

2007-07-01 Thread AJSOENKE
Most of the posts, so far, have dealt with the K2/K3 cost differential on a basis of fun to build and production manufacturing economics. In the SMT vs PTH/discreet component examples cited there was limited mention of the vastly expanded capabilities and somewhat improved performance - not

Re: [Elecraft] K2 vs K3 re: final COST

2007-07-01 Thread N2EY
In a message dated 7/1/07 5:55:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I doubt if it is SMT devices and auto-board stuffers that made the economy of K3 what it is. I think it is. Electronic integration marches on. Remember the Collins 75A4, or Heath Marauder?

Re: [Elecraft] K2 vs K3 re: final COST

2007-07-01 Thread Augie Hansen
remember, not too many years ago (88), having a meeting in a room at Bell Lab's Allentown facility (or was it NJ) - and behind me on the wall of that lab - which had a brass plaque which read ... in this lab in 1953 (or whatever the correct year was), the first transistor IC was invented.

Re: [Elecraft] K2 vs K3 re: final COST

2007-07-01 Thread Augie Hansen
... which had a brass plaque which read ... in this lab in 1953 (or whatever the correct year was), the first transistor IC was invented. Wow - time marches on! 1959, IIRC. Actually, the transistor was born in the Labs in late 1947. It became available at an affordable price to kids like