Re: [Elecraft] K3: Receiver recovery time

2019-01-13 Thread Dave Cole (NK7Z)
Thank you Don!! I was trying to get a general feel for what to expect, a ms, or us type of answer... I was thinking of using the IF to avoid the DSP filters for just the reasons you cited. I am sure you are correct about testing-- time to break out the scope... Thanks again for your

Re: [Elecraft] K3: Receiver recovery time

2019-01-13 Thread Don Wilhelm
Dave, I would be cautious about looking only at the IF. That is all in front of the DSP. Certainly the DSP creates some latency, but that is not what we are talking about. The DSP latency will delay all signals. So test in the configuration that you will likely use. If using the IF

Re: [Elecraft] K3: Receiver recovery time

2019-01-13 Thread Dave Cole (NK7Z)
Hi Don, Thanks for the combined brain power! I have a plan for testing if it ever gets that far. I am just trying to see if the K3 receiver recovers sufficiently fast in a general sort of way first. I believe I could look at RF levels on the IF while transmitting, (using a different

Re: [Elecraft] K3: Receiver recovery time

2019-01-13 Thread K9MA
You ought to be able to measure it by simply looking at the audio output with a scope. Just send some dits and look at how long it takes for the noise to reappear. You might have to use a noise source, or a low level carrier at a slightly different frequency. Of course, with the AGC off and

Re: [Elecraft] K3: Receiver recovery time

2019-01-13 Thread Don Wilhelm
Dave, I am trying to think of how you might test it. The best I can think of is to listen to both a noise source and an XG3 sending a CW string of dots. Increase the speed of the CW sent by the XG3 until you can no longer hear the noise source between dits. Then either calculate the off times

Re: [Elecraft] K3: Receiver recovery time

2019-01-13 Thread Dave Cole (NK7Z)
Hi again Scott, Thank you for your answer, but I am not being clear. Not during break in, just sitting there in receive... If the radio is hit with an S9+ signal, how long after the S9+ signal terminates before the K3 receiver recovers enough to show an weak signal on the IF... No T/R

Re: [Elecraft] K3: Receiver recovery time

2019-01-13 Thread K9MA
On 1/13/2019 12:10, Dave Cole (NK7Z) wrote: Is it faster than .0001 ms? Certainly not. I'm not sure whether it is recovery time or latency, but in full break-in mode, you hear nothing between the dits above something like 10 wpm. (Even with AGC off.) With other non-DSP receivers, one can

Re: [Elecraft] K3: Receiver recovery time

2019-01-13 Thread Dave Cole (NK7Z)
Is it faster than .0001 ms? 73s and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) https://www.nk7z.net Award Manager, 30MDG Grid Contest ARRL Technical Specialist ARRL Volunteer Examiner ARRL OOC for Oregon On 1/13/19 9:06 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote: Dave, That depends on slow or fast AGC and the setting of the AGC DCY

Re: [Elecraft] K3: Receiver recovery time

2019-01-13 Thread Dave Cole (NK7Z)
Sorry, I forgot to add, AGC off... 73s and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) https://www.nk7z.net Award Manager, 30MDG Grid Contest ARRL Technical Specialist ARRL Volunteer Examiner ARRL OOC for Oregon On 1/13/19 9:06 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote: Dave, That depends on slow or fast AGC and the setting of the AGC

Re: [Elecraft] K3: Receiver recovery time

2019-01-13 Thread Don Wilhelm
Dave, That depends on slow or fast AGC and the setting of the AGC DCY menu parameter. Fast is very quick - just watch the S-meter to get some visual indication. 73, Don W3FPR On 1/13/2019 11:49 AM, Dave Cole (NK7Z) wrote: Hello, Anyone able to answer this question please? In the presence

[Elecraft] K3: Receiver recovery time

2019-01-13 Thread Dave Cole (NK7Z)
Hello, Anyone able to answer this question please? In the presence of a strong signal, say -75 db, (or around S9), once that signal ceases, how long does it take the K3 receiver to return to normal receive capability again? -- 73s and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) https://www.nk7z.net Award Manager,