Re: [Elecraft] K3: noise reduction performance

2010-12-01 Thread Gary Gregory
James, I concur. There is a noticeable drop in 'audio level' when I activate NR and it does not depend on the settings from what I can tell. I would hope this does creep up the list quite a bit as I feel it has been left as a dormant issue long enough. Gary On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 2:13 AM, James

Re: [Elecraft] K3: noise reduction performance

2010-11-30 Thread James Sarte (K2QI)
Hi Lyle! Indeed, this is a very subjective issue. One issue though that many will probably agree with me on is the decrease in audio fidelity whenever NR is engaged; i.e. volume of speech drops in relation to NR. Would it be possible to alter the algorithm to prevent this from happening? It seem

Re: [Elecraft] K3: noise reduction performance

2010-11-30 Thread Lyle Johnson
Psycho-acoustics is fun! Some people swear by the K3 NR, others swear at it :-) Making further changes to the K3 NR remains a possibility, but is not a particularly high priority at the moment. Priorities can and do change... 73, Lyle KK7P > I hope Lyle will read this and perhaps be able to

Re: [Elecraft] K3: noise reduction performance

2010-11-30 Thread James Sarte (K2QI)
Hello Group, I went ahead and ordered another BHI ANEM module, but I still have high hopes that the K3's NR performance will improve. I believe one of the biggest issues is related to audio fidelity when the NR is activated. I find myself having to turn up the AF gain in order to compensate for

[Elecraft] K3 Noise Reduction Performance

2010-11-29 Thread Johnny Siu
n I'm all for it. T. Smith > From: w4...@carolina.rr.com > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 16:27:56 -0500 > Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Noise Reduction Performance > > I have two K3s and the NR is the same on both. If I had to identify a feature >on t

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noise Reduction Performance

2010-11-29 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
you've accused him of > something, then gone on to post his personal information on the group > regardless. I hope you're happy with your actions, and that you feel good > about yourself now. > I believe that action against Joe should be taken at this time. Enough is > e

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noise Reduction Performance

2010-11-29 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Clarification on #3: 3. It is -not- appropriate to use a false name, or -false- callsign, or to post anonymously. Eric Elecraft Moderator __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailma

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noise Reduction Performance

2010-11-29 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Michael and Joe, Please refrain from posting any more emails to the list regarding how another is mis-identified, or verbally attacking one another. It is not appropriate to argue this out here, and it is outside of list guidelines to -ever- verbally attack another person here. As moderator, p

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noise Reduction Performance

2010-11-29 Thread David Herring
ith >> >>> From: w4...@carolina.rr.com >>> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 16:27:56 -0500 >>> Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Noise Reduction Performance >>> >>> I have two K3s and the NR is the same on both. If I had to ident

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noise Reduction Performance

2010-11-29 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
.qth.net >> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 16:27:56 -0500 >> Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Noise Reduction Performance >> >> I have two K3s and the NR is the same on both. If I had to identify a >> feature on the K3 that needs improvement, I would have to say it is the NR. >>

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noise Reduction Performance

2010-11-29 Thread k2qi . nyc
n I'm all for it. T. Smith > From: w4...@carolina.rr.com > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 16:27:56 -0500 > Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Noise Reduction Performance > > I have two K3s and the NR is the same on both. If I had to identify a feature > on t

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noise Reduction Performance

2010-11-29 Thread The Smiths
l for it. T. Smith > From: w4...@carolina.rr.com > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 16:27:56 -0500 > Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Noise Reduction Performance > > I have two K3s and the NR is the same on both. If I had to identify a feature > on the K3 that

[Elecraft] K3 Noise Reduction Performance

2010-11-28 Thread Roy Morris
I have two K3s and the NR is the same on both. If I had to identify a feature on the K3 that needs improvement, I would have to say it is the NR. I cannot find a noise reduction setting that is suitable to me. I realize this is a subjective, and you would have to compare the K3s noise reducti

[Elecraft] K3: noise reduction performance

2010-11-27 Thread Johnny Siu
Johnny VR2XMC - 郵件原件 寄件人﹕ Ron D'Eau Claire 收件人﹕ Elecraft 傳送日期﹕ 2010/11/28 (日) 12:14:47 AM 主題: Re: [Elecraft] K3: noise reduction performance This is a good example of just how subjective "improvement" can be. Sure, the "hash" is gone, but it's rep

Re: [Elecraft] K3: noise reduction performance

2010-11-27 Thread N2TK, Tony
like the NR on CW. And did I say how happy I am with the APF? 73, N2TK, Tony #311 #1435 -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of James Sarte (K2QI) Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 7:16 AM To: Elecraft Subject: [Elec

Re: [Elecraft] K3: noise reduction performance

2010-11-27 Thread Dave Perry
Dave, N4QS - Original Message - From: To: "James Sarte (K2QI)" Cc: "Elecraft" Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: noise reduction performance > I'm still getting my sea legs on the K3 but NR seems to work really great > on

Re: [Elecraft] K3: noise reduction performance

2010-11-27 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Hi James, I'd have to say that your post and the links to what you consider improvement firmly make the case for how subjective this is. Some folks simply cannot stand to listen to the "warbling" effect caused by the NR algorithm moving around the center of the "passband" to match the speech cent

Re: [Elecraft] K3: noise reduction performance

2010-11-27 Thread k6rb
I'm still getting my sea legs on the K3 but NR seems to work really great on CW but on SSB, I can't use it. With it on, regardless of setting, it makes the channel sound "watery" (for lack of a better term). I have two K3s, and both sound alike on phone with NR invoked. Maybe I don't have them adj

Re: [Elecraft] K3: noise reduction performance

2010-11-27 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
This is a good example of just how subjective "improvement" can be. Sure, the "hash" is gone, but it's replaced by the "underwater" warbling sound so common with highly processed audio. Personally, I find that warbling variation in the audio far less pleasant than the noise. Ron AC7AC -O

Re: [Elecraft] K3: noise reduction performance

2010-11-27 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
Hello James, I use a BHI ANEM Mk II with my K2, and get similar results. My K2 does not have the Noise Blanker installed nor the DSP, one reason being that man-made noise at this quiet rural location was never a problem. But, about two years ago some new neighbours arrived armed with some devic

Re: [Elecraft] K3: noise reduction performance

2010-11-27 Thread vr2xmc
Hi James I concur with your observations and let us have an open minded discussion here. Johnny vr2xmc Sent from my iPhone 4 "James Sarte (K2QI)" 於 2010年11月27日 下午8:16 寫道: > Hello Elecrafters, > > Regarding the issue of NR, I know this can be a touchy subject and most will > say its very su

[Elecraft] K3: noise reduction performance

2010-11-27 Thread James Sarte (K2QI)
Hello Elecrafters, Regarding the issue of NR, I know this can be a touchy subject and most will say its very subjective. This post isn't intended as a complaint or criticism. Instead, I hope through constructive discussions, more improvements to the K3's NR performance will be realized. I'd like