Re: [Elecraft] K3 - panadapter or subreceiver

2012-07-04 Thread K7MDL
I have both. The P3 gets used all the time, especially for evaluating band activity. Super helpful for watching 6M and seeing when the beacons are coming in. With thr wide spectrum (200KHz) I can watch 50.000 through 50.200 basically capturing the beacons, CW segment, calling frequency, and all

[Elecraft] K3 - panadapter or subreceiver

2012-07-03 Thread eric manning
Subreceiver! Adding LP-PAN or a similar SDR plus Skimmer will give you a useful picture of the [small, but often big-enough] band segment, plus callsign and 599 decoding. RObert said: I have never used either a panadapter or a sub-receiver, so I'm a newbie in this area. I use CW almost

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - panadapter or subreceiver

2012-07-03 Thread Keith Heimbold
I am a newbie ham and I have both in my one K3 Serial 1391 and I find both useful but I definitely use the Panadapter with NAP3 more than the second receiver. One of my closest friends who is a non ham calls it my fish finder. It is super awesome for 6m fish finding when band props are

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - panadapter or subreceiver

2012-07-03 Thread Mike K2MK
Hi Phil, You should have some idea of when you might want to use diversity reception. If you do then the filters that would be in use on your main RX should be duplicated (and matched) in the sub RX. Likewise, you should really give some thought to when you might use your sub RX. I have five

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - panadapter or subreceiver

2012-07-03 Thread Bruce McLaughlin
I tend to 2nd that recommendation. I have both the P3 and a 2nd receiver in my K-3. I have the same filters for the sub receiver as the main receiver, although, I have never used diversity receive. I think the P3 is particularly helpful to check on band activity before you decide whether or not

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - panadapter or subreceiver

2012-07-03 Thread KQ8M
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 10:24 AM To: Keith Heimbold Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net; eric manning Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - panadapter or subreceiver I tend to 2nd that recommendation. I have both the P3 and a 2nd receiver in my K-3. I have the same filters for the sub receiver as the main

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - panadapter or subreceiver

2012-07-03 Thread Edward Dickinson III
I don't know if it has been said, but with a K3, no subreceiver and an LP-Pan, it is possible to monitor the audio on both VFOs simultaneously. 73, Dick - KA5KKT __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - panadapter or subreceiver

2012-07-03 Thread Scott Manthe
I agree that only three filters are necessary in the subRX. I've got the FM filter, which covers AM and ESSB, a 2.8 kHz filter, and the 400 Hz CW in my KRX3. The performance using these filters is fine, certainly better than the second receivers in the Orions (although the new optional RX is

[Elecraft] K3 - panadapter or subreceiver

2012-07-02 Thread Robert G. Strickland
I have never used either a panadapter or a sub-receiver, so I'm a newbie in this area. I use CW almost exclusively, and I chase DX and enter contests [less so in the past, more in the future]. I have a small pistol station with no allusions of being a band master. Question: which of these two

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - panadapter or subreceiver

2012-07-02 Thread Bill Conkling
...@verizon.net To: Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Mon, Jul 2, 2012 17:50:55 GMT+00:00 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - panadapter or subreceiver I have never used either a panadapter or a sub-receiver, so I'm a newbie in this area. I use CW almost exclusively, and I chase DX and enter contests [less so

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - panadapter or subreceiver

2012-07-02 Thread Scott Manthe
Well, this is entirely subjective. Both can be useful, but I think the subRX would be the more useful addition. 73, Scott, N9AA On 7/2/12 1:50 PM, Robert G. Strickland wrote: I have never used either a panadapter or a sub-receiver, so I'm a newbie in this area. I use CW almost exclusively,

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - panadapter or subreceiver

2012-07-02 Thread Jim Brown
On 7/2/2012 10:50 AM, Robert G. Strickland wrote: Yes, I can have them both in my K3, but if I had to choose, which one would seem preferable? I'm mainly a contester, but I work some DX, digital modes on 160M, and all modes on 6M. I use the P3 a LOT more than I use the second RX. For DX, you

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - panadapter or subreceiver

2012-07-02 Thread Tony Estep
On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Robert G. Strickland rc...@verizon.netwrote: ...I use CW almost exclusively, and I chase DX.. == Well, Bob, if you chase DX on CW you will get a major boost out of the 2nd receiver. Once you have worked the easy ones, you'll find that just about every

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - panadapter or subreceiver

2012-07-02 Thread Fred Jensen
Standby for incoming, Robert.:-) My suggestion: Your K3 has two VFO's and will run them split. That's what you need for DX. Without the subRx, you have to press and hold the REV button to listen on your TX freq on VFO B in SPLIT. It reverts to VFO A when you let go. With the subRx, you

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - panadapter or subreceiver

2012-07-02 Thread Paul Saffren N6HZ
Hi Robert, Having never used a panadapter until working at Elecraft, I can honestly say that I can't imagine having a station without one. With a P3 (or LP-Pan for that matter) I can literally see the band at a glance. One of the really nice features is the history or waterfall, which allows

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - panadapter or subreceiver

2012-07-02 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
On 7/2/2012 10:50 AM, Robert G. Strickland wrote: Yes, I can have them both in my K3, but if I had to choose, which one would seem preferable? It would be a very tough choice. The panadapter provides a 50,000 foot view ... I can be chasing one pile-up or working JT-65 on 6 meters and see if

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - panadapter or subreceiver

2012-07-02 Thread Mike K2MK
Hi Robert, I have the sub RX and the P3 and I would not want to be without either, however, if I were trying to save money on an initial purchase I would buy the P3. The P3 is easy to use and is useful at all times under all conditions. The large screen SVGA option which I also have is nice but

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - panadapter or subreceiver

2012-07-02 Thread Brian Maynard
I thought this through and chose the P3. The subRX requires a second antenna - which I did not have - and the matching filters, so it is not just the receiver alone. The P3 does everything the others have mentioned, and as one responder said - you will end up using it all the time if you work DX

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - panadapter or subreceiver

2012-07-02 Thread Hisashi T Fujinaka
I'd agree. I never had either in the past and now I'm constantly looking at the P3 and I do use the sub-receiver but don't turn it on every time I'm on. The panadapter tells me when the band is dead, when my antenna is tuned properly (I have a magnetic loop that needs to be tuned all the time),

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - panadapter or subreceiver

2012-07-02 Thread Craig Smith
I have both with my K3. If I could have only one, it would definitely be the P3. The sub RX is great for diversity receive which helps a lot in CW contesting. But the P3, as other have pointed out, lets you quickly find where to place your signal when trying to find a good run frequency.

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - panadapter or subreceiver

2012-07-02 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
I'm a certified (or certifiable?) O.T. who has been haunting the Ham bands for over half a century, content to listen intently for signals while slowly cranking the main tuning knob. Panadapters have been around a long time, but I always thought Huh! Who needs that sort of gadget? Then came the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - panadapter or subreceiver

2012-07-02 Thread N4QS
. If you already have a K3, then it is a lot easier to add the P3. Eventually, you will want to have both. Dave, N4QS - Original Message - From: Robert G. Strickland rc...@verizon.net To: Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 12:50 PM Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - panadapter

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - panadapter or subreceiver

2012-07-02 Thread Mike K2MK
Hi Brian, Use of a sub RX does not require a second antenna. I've been using a sub RX to chase split DX since 1991 with one antenna. The only time a second antenna is necessary is if you want to use diversity reception or possibly for some cross band activity. Conversely, a sub RX is not

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - panadapter or subreceiver

2012-07-02 Thread John Harper
I had the same question over a year ago and received the following replies: http://www.ae5x.com/blog/2010/09/05/the-most-beneficial-k3-upgrade-panadapter-or-sub-reciever/?trashed=1ids=1987 I've still not added either but after operating the K3 much as you do, there is no longer any question in

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - panadapter or subreceiver

2012-07-02 Thread Brian Maynard
Hi Mike, You are right! I should have read the manual before posting ;-) It is important to consider the filters needed for the subRX - 8-pole filters are not inexpensive. I hope to have both someday, but for now am very happy with my P3 and KPA500 (and KAT500 on order...). - Brian, op

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - panadapter or subreceiver

2012-07-02 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
And for most operations 8 pole filters are not required. Ron AC7AC -Original Message- Hi Mike, You are right! I should have read the manual before posting ;-) It is important to consider the filters needed for the subRX - 8-pole filters are not inexpensive. I hope to have both

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - panadapter or subreceiver

2012-07-02 Thread Phillip Shepard
, Phil, NS7P -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of Ron D'Eau Claire Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 7:11 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - panadapter or subreceiver And for most operations 8 pole

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - panadapter or subreceiver

2012-07-02 Thread Don Wilhelm
, Phil, NS7P -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of Ron D'Eau Claire Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 7:11 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - panadapter or subreceiver And for most