Re: [Elecraft] K3EXREF Query

2014-10-15 Thread Chuck Smallhouse
Don't you guys have anything better to do than nit pick over a negligible warm up drift. I don't think that you will be planning to do any ARRL Frequency Measurement Tests, within the first 10 minutes of your K3 turn on ! I have bought several 10 MHz DOUBLE Oven Controlled Crystal Oscillator

Re: [Elecraft] K3EXREF Query

2014-10-15 Thread Bob
Maybe my concept is wrong but I do not see the need to leave a GPSDO on. Once the GPSDO locks to the satellite it is all that is required. I have decent sky view and it locks up using multiple satellites quite quickly. So before the K3 has warmed up the GPSDO has locked and I'm locked to it. T

Re: [Elecraft] K3EXREF Query

2014-10-15 Thread Geoffrey Downs
lf an hour or so and want to check the calibration. 73 Geoff G3UCK -Original Message- From: Edward R Cole Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 10:47 PM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3EXREF Query David, 10w is 7.3 kwH/month. I would doubt that is a large expense,

Re: [Elecraft] K3EXREF Query

2014-10-15 Thread Fred Townsend
Look at cell phone chargers where the light switchers are used instead of the heavy wall wort linear supplies. You thought it was to save weight? 73 Fred, AE6QL -Original Message- >From: Edward R Cole >Sent: Oct 15, 2014 9:29 AM >To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >Subject:

Re: [Elecraft] K3EXREF Query

2014-10-15 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
Ed, I spent a lot of time over the past few years looking at this exact problem. It becomes interesting if your power company charges tiered rates and baseline is under a dime, while 300% and over is nearly $0.50. The government's EnergyStar program did not initially look at standby power,

Re: [Elecraft] K3EXREF Query

2014-10-15 Thread Edward R Cole
offee pot hot. And that only ruins the coffee. We just reheat a cup in the microwave when we want hot coffee. Do we save any power this way?? But the coffee tastes better :-) 73, Ed --- From: "Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT" To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] K3EXREF Query

2014-10-15 Thread Harry Yingst via Elecraft
GPSDO and plan to leave it on all the time. As for the expenseto me the expense is minimal. From: Mike Harris To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3EXREF Query Why not just leave the frequency reference switched on

Re: [Elecraft] K3EXREF Query

2014-10-15 Thread Brian
oscillator is a thermostatically controlled heating device. Nuff sed! :-) 73, Alan. G4GNX -Original Message- From: Edward R Cole Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 10:47 PM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3EXREF Query David, 10w is 7.3 kwH/month. I would doubt that is

Re: [Elecraft] K3EXREF Query

2014-10-14 Thread G4GNX
stable crystal oscillator is a thermostatically controlled heating device. Nuff sed! :-) 73, Alan. G4GNX -Original Message- From: Edward R Cole Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 10:47 PM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3EXREF Query David, 10w is 7.3 kwH/month. I

Re: [Elecraft] K3EXREF Query

2014-10-14 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
On 10/14/2014 2:47 PM, Edward R Cole wrote: Leave your TV plugged in but turned off and it still consumes about 50w. You need to buy a new TV. The new ones are under a half-watt when plugged in but turned off. __ Elecraft mailing list

Re: [Elecraft] K3EXREF Query

2014-10-14 Thread Edward R Cole
routine frequency checks. The rb is only +/- 5 E-11 so not as good as GPS but good enough for my use. 73, Ed - KL7UW - From: David G4DMP To: Mike Harris Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3EXREF Query Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii About

Re: [Elecraft] K3EXREF Query

2014-10-14 Thread David G4DMP
About 10W for the MV89A double oven CXO, when run from a linear 12V power supply. NOT trivial at today's prices for electricity in Great Britain. 73 de David G4DMP In a recent message, Mike Harris writes >Why not just leave the frequency reference switched on. OK with a >TCXO, not so good with

Re: [Elecraft] K3EXREF Query

2014-10-14 Thread Mike Harris
Why not just leave the frequency reference switched on. OK with a TCXO, not so good with a Rubidium standard. Power consumption must be trivial compared with the normal domestic base load. Regards, Mike VP8NO On 14/10/2014 10:41, David G4DMP wrote: I have not seen any replies to this, Bria

Re: [Elecraft] K3EXREF Query

2014-10-14 Thread David G4DMP
I have not seen any replies to this, Brian. As I see it, the only way out is to go into REF CAL from the Config menu and then press 2 to disable XREF until the frequency standard has locked. Like you, I have found that if XREF is enabled when the K3 is switched on, the K3 drifts unacceptably for

[Elecraft] K3EXREF Query

2014-10-13 Thread Brian
I was wondering if there is any kind of "sensibility" check done on the input reference? For example, I've been fooling around with a double oven controlled XO. Starting from cold it is > 200Hz off. It takes ten minutes or so to be within 10 Hz. It gets into the tenths of Hz accuracy region i

Re: [Elecraft] K3EXREF query

2013-07-21 Thread Bayard Coolidge, N1HO
>>> Upon further reading, the corrections of this module appear to be in  ~1Hz >>>steps. >>>  I was more interested in something that disciplines the oscillator in a >>>finer more continuous way. I have a K3EXREF on order from Aptos, as well as a Trimble Thunderbolt coming via E-Bay. The Trimb

Re: [Elecraft] K3EXREF query

2013-07-21 Thread Brian Alsop
Thanks guys for the suggestions. To appreciate the problem one needs to look at Fig's 7 and 9 in the K3EXREF manual. There is no room for tools. Nor do I think any kind of gop is a good idea. (Though if this screw were necessary for grounding I don't think they would have used a split washe

Re: [Elecraft] K3EXREF query

2013-07-21 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 8:53 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3EXREF query The most useful tool, which I have found for this type of application, is the simple screw "Grabber"

Re: [Elecraft] K3EXREF query

2013-07-21 Thread Michael Goins
I've used a little bit of coax seal too many times to count. Stick a bit in the screwdriver tip and it will hold the screw very well.Used t recently re-building a T-8 Tennadyne Log Periodic with lots of difficult to access areas. Didn't drop a one (and they would have gone into the boom and been to

Re: [Elecraft] K3EXREF query

2013-07-21 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
The most useful tool, which I have found for this type of application, is the simple screw "Grabber". Not only can this tool be used to hold a screw and washer(s) while starting the thread, but also while removing a screw and washers. It can also be used to retrieve bits of wire, screws, washe

Re: [Elecraft] K3EXREF query

2013-07-20 Thread bill conkling
er >available openings instead of the REF connector opening. > >73, Ron AC7AC > > >-Original Message- >From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net >[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Brian Alsop >Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 8:42 AM >To: elecra

Re: [Elecraft] K3EXREF query

2013-07-20 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
tead of the REF connector opening. 73, Ron AC7AC -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Brian Alsop Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 8:42 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3EXREF query Anybody install with

[Elecraft] K3EXREF query

2013-07-20 Thread Brian Alsop
Anybody install with with the subrx in place? My recollection is that the installing the screw with the lockwasher on the panel side of the master oscillator PCB was a bit tricky. Also the extra hole for the SMA connector is already in use here for something else. I'm wondering if there is