Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation

2020-04-25 Thread Leroy Buller
Chuck, I am late to this discussion so I might be saying things that already been said. I found the same issue. Voltage down to 11.5 volts on any ps I used. So, I found the issue was power pole connectors that were to light. Look for power pole connectors that handle 30 amps or so. Power

Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation

2020-04-25 Thread Victor Rosenthal
ink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: Gmail<mailto:anyone1...@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 9:03 AM To: Bob McGraw K4TAX<mailto:rmcg...@blomand.net> Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net<mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further i

Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation

2020-04-25 Thread hawley, charles j jr
nd of the 12 volt power cable. > Pete W4WWQ > > - Original Message - > From: > To: > Sent: 4/25/2020 2:47:12 PM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation > &g

Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation

2020-04-25 Thread hawley, charles j jr
rom now on with >>>>>> only >>>>>> a fuse inline. The low current stuff will stay on the power pole strip >>>>>> where they do just fine lighting up lights and stuff. >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 25, 2020,

Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation

2020-04-25 Thread Edward R Cole
0400 From: Don Wilhelm To: Ron Manfredi , elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Solder each power supply lead to a short length of #10 wire. Insulate the connection well. 73,

Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation

2020-04-25 Thread Pete Lascell
To bad the power supply doesn't have remote voltage sense to regulate at the far end of the 12 volt power cable. Pete W4WWQ - Original Message - From: To: Sent: 4/25/2020 2:47:12 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation

Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation

2020-04-25 Thread donovanf
ne. The low current stuff will stay on the power pole >>>>> strip >>>>> where they do just fine lighting up lights and stuff. >>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 09:16 Don Schroder >>>>>> wrote

Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation

2020-04-25 Thread N4ZR
go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: Gmail<mailto:anyone1...@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 9:03 AM To: Bob McGraw K4TAX<mailto:rmcg...@blomand.net> Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net<mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S p

Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation

2020-04-25 Thread Jim Brown
On 4/25/2020 5:13 AM, Chuck Chandler wrote: At rest the K3S panel display shows 13.6V, with full power key down it dips to 11.5 or so. This seems like a lot. I'm running the power cable thru a RigRunner Powerpole strip. If I can dig out another power supply from the packed boxes I can wire

Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation

2020-04-25 Thread Frank Krozel
9:16 Don Schroder wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Bob, >>>>>> >>>>>> Is it safe to run my K2 using Anderson Power Pole connections, and/or >>>>>> RigRunner equipment? >>>>>> >>>&g

Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation

2020-04-25 Thread hawley, charles j jr
gt;>> On Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 09:16 Don Schroder wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Bob, >>>>> >>>>> Is it safe to run my K2 using Anderson Power Pole connections, and/or >>>>> RigRunner equipment? >>>>> >>>&

Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation

2020-04-25 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
Change the connectors on the power supply to accommodate several ring type connectors.   Use 1" long   #10 bolts, nuts, flat washers and insulating washers which are easy to find at your local hardware store and are very easy to use and replace.  Then you can connect 8 to 10 pieces of

Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation

2020-04-25 Thread Martin Sole
e1...@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 9:03 AM To: Bob McGraw K4TAX<mailto:rmcg...@blomand.net> Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net<mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation Nuts, just measure the drop between radio and power

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2020-04-25 Thread N4ZR
t> Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net<mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation Nuts, just measure the drop between radio and power supply see if it is reasonable. Mine is 0.25 volts when transmitting. I run 14.0 out of supply. Ray W8LYJ Sent fr

Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation

2020-04-25 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
    <mailto:rmcg...@blomand.net>>     Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net <mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net><mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net     <mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net>>     Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation     Nuts, just measure the drop betwe

Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation

2020-04-25 Thread Don Wilhelm
Solder each power supply lead to a short length of #10 wire. Insulate the connection well. 73, Don W3FPR On 4/25/2020 11:12 AM, Ron Manfredi wrote: Fewer power supplies (meaning the switching type) have actual terminal bolts to use with ring connectors.  If the supply doesn't have that type

Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation

2020-04-25 Thread Barry Baines via Elecraft
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation

2020-04-25 Thread hawley, charles j jr
what is the reason for NOT using them? >>> >>> I’m rewiring, and I want to do it right! >>> >>> Gunny, KE0PVQ >>> >>> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for >>> Windows 10 >>> >>> Fr

Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation

2020-04-25 Thread Ron Manfredi
<mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net><mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net     <mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net>>     Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation     Nuts, just measure the drop between radio and power supply see if     it is reasonable. Mine is 0.25 volts

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2020-04-25 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
Graw K4TAX<mailto:rmcg...@blomand.net <mailto:rmcg...@blomand.net>> Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net <mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net><mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net <mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigat

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2020-04-25 Thread N4ZR
link/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: Gmail<mailto:anyone1...@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 9:03 AM To: Bob McGraw K4TAX<mailto:rmcg...@blomand.net> Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net<mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further in

Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation

2020-04-25 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
Gunny et al: The issue with power distribution strips for DC is resistance. Every contact or connection in the path adds some value of resistance.  Using Ohms law, where E = IR, we see that more resistance = more voltage drop.  This includes the resistance of the DC power cable and any

Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation

2020-04-25 Thread Don Wilhelm
.qth.net> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation Nuts, just measure the drop between radio and power supply see if it is reasonable. Mine is 0.25 volts when transmitting. I run 14.0 out of supply. Ray W8LYJ Sent from my iPad On Apr 25, 2020, at 07:48,

Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation

2020-04-25 Thread Bill Frantz
The short answer is that too much voltage drop on transmit puts radios in an operational configuration where they produce more IMD and other bad things. Any connection in the power supply will introduce additional resistance. At the current levels used during 100W transmission, it doesn't

Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation

2020-04-25 Thread Jim Rhodes
et> > Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net<mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation > > Nuts, just measure the drop between radio and power supply see if it is > reasonable. Mine is 0.25 volts when transmitting. I run 14.0 out

Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation

2020-04-25 Thread Don Schroder
From: Gmail<mailto:anyone1...@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 9:03 AM To: Bob McGraw K4TAX<mailto:rmcg...@blomand.net> Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net<mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation Nuts, just measure the drop

Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation

2020-04-25 Thread Gmail
Nuts, just measure the drop between radio and power supply see if it is reasonable. Mine is 0.25 volts when transmitting. I run 14.0 out of supply. Ray W8LYJ Sent from my iPad > On Apr 25, 2020, at 07:48, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote: > > As to the RigRunner power pole strip.PUT IT IN

Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation

2020-04-25 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
As to the RigRunner power pole strip.PUT IT IN THE TRASH where it belongs.    NEVER NEVER NEVER use a power distribution strip to power a 100 watt radio.   ALWAYS connect the radio direct to the power supply terminals.   NO exceptions! 73 Bob, K4TAX On 4/25/2020 7:13 AM, Chuck

[Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation

2020-04-25 Thread Chuck Chandler
After more checking, I suspect the internal 100W amp is the common factor in the poor keying characteristics I'm seeing and hearing about from my rig. I am trying to determine if my power supply is doing it's job. I'm using a TenTec 963 switching supply rated at 25A continuous. At rest the K3S

Re: [Elecraft] K3S Poor CW reported

2020-04-24 Thread Chuck Chandler
My mistake. For mentions of KPA100 please read KPA3 100 watt amplifier! On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 19:35 Chuck Chandler wrote: > While I wait for my Winkeyer to be delivered I’m doing more testing, as I > can. We are moving in about a month and much of my stuff is packed > already. Some of the

[Elecraft] K3S Poor CW reported

2020-04-24 Thread Chuck Chandler
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW reported with N1MM+

2020-04-24 Thread Roger D Johnson
I rather liked the old Russian tank radios. Whoop de whoop de whoop whoop de whoop. 73, Roger On 4/24/2020 9:40 AM, Carl Yaffey wrote: IMHO nothing beat the sound of CW from a Collins 32V3. Yeah, I’m old! 73 K8NU __ Elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW reported with N1MM+

2020-04-24 Thread Carl Yaffey
IMHO nothing beat the sound of CW from a Collins 32V3. Yeah, I’m old! 73 K8NU > On Apr 24, 2020, at 8:29 AM, John Simmons wrote: > > Use the QSK mode. There is no menu option to change the rise time- > intentionally. If you listen to CW contests there are some REALLY wide > signals out there.

Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW

2020-04-23 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
That's not what makes my CW poor.   And I've found nothing to make it any better.   I just need software that sends what I'm thinking.  But then, at age 77, that would be about 5 WPM or so. I use either single lever or dual lever paddles with my K3S. I've not observed anything related to K3S

Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW

2020-04-23 Thread Jim Rhodes
Or Mortty for half of that, plus a little solder. On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 13:30 Buck wrote: > WKMini is $55 from hamcrafters2.com. It stores the USB commands (which > come very fast and are not subject to timing issues) and decodes into > perfect dits and dahs. > > Buck, k4ia > Honor Roll >

Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW

2020-04-23 Thread Christopher Hoover
I sure wish that K3S implemented winkeyer protocol internally. I hope this will be true for K4. 73 de Ai6KG On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 10:50 AM Frederick Dwight wrote: > About a decade ago I used contest software to key my Ten Tec via a home > brew optical serial port adaptor. It worked > but

Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW

2020-04-23 Thread donovanf
Rhodes" To: j...@audiosystemsgroup.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 6:05:44 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW Any software only CW implementation is going to have timing issues, especially with the newer operating systems. Best to offload that

Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW

2020-04-23 Thread Buck
WKMini is $55 from hamcrafters2.com. It stores the USB commands (which come very fast and are not subject to timing issues) and decodes into perfect dits and dahs. Buck, k4ia Honor Roll 8BDXCC EasyWayHamBooks.com On 4/23/2020 2:05 PM, Jim Rhodes wrote: Any software only CW implementation is

Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW

2020-04-23 Thread Jim Rhodes
Any software only CW implementation is going to have timing issues, especially with the newer operating systems. Best to offload that task to a processor with nothing else to do. Winkey or Mortty or something similar. On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 13:00 Jim Brown wrote: > On 4/23/2020 10:46 AM,

Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW

2020-04-23 Thread Jim Brown
On 4/23/2020 10:46 AM, Frederick Dwight wrote: Changed to a winkeyer with USB interface. This has always worked great with all rigs, including my present K3S. Winkeyer (and winkeyer emulations) are very widely used by serious contesters, some of whom tool along at 40 wpm. 73, Jim K9YC

[Elecraft] K3S poor CW

2020-04-23 Thread Frederick Dwight
About a decade ago I used contest software to key my Ten Tec via a home brew optical serial port adaptor. It worked but not perfectly, some characters delayed or truncated, especially with high speed CW. Changed to a winkeyer with USB interface. This has always worked great with all rigs,

[Elecraft] K3S poor CW reported with N1MM+

2020-04-23 Thread Chuck Chandler
Over the past few months I've been entering the hour-long CWT mini-contests each Wednesday. Four times post-contest I've gotten an email from stations I've worked calling my attention to a problem with my CW. It's not every time... I've entered 20 of these contests this year, and average about