Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation

2020-04-25 Thread Leroy Buller
Chuck, I am late to this discussion so I might be saying things that already been said. I found the same issue. Voltage down to 11.5 volts on any ps I used. So, I found the issue was power pole connectors that were to light. Look for power pole connectors that handle 30 amps or so. Power poles

Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation

2020-04-25 Thread Victor Rosenthal
ink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: Gmail<mailto:anyone1...@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 9:03 AM To: Bob McGraw K4TAX<mailto:rmcg...@blomand.net> Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net<mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further i

Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation

2020-04-25 Thread hawley, charles j jr
far end of the 12 volt power cable. > Pete W4WWQ > > - Original Message - > From: > To: > Sent: 4/25/2020 2:47:12 PM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation > __

Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation

2020-04-25 Thread hawley, charles j jr
;>> is the way my rigs and VHF/UHF amps will be connected from now on with >>>>>> only >>>>>> a fuse inline. The low current stuff will stay on the power pole strip >>>>>> where they do just fine lighting up lights and stuff. >>>

Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation

2020-04-25 Thread Edward R Cole
11:42:35 -0400 From: Don Wilhelm To: Ron Manfredi , elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Solder each power supply lead to a short length of #10 wire. Insulate the connection

Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation

2020-04-25 Thread Pete Lascell
To bad the power supply doesn't have remote voltage sense to regulate at the far end of the 12 volt power cable. Pete W4WWQ - Original Message - From: To: Sent: 4/25/2020 2:47:12 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investig

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2020-04-25 Thread donovanf
gt;>>> with only >>>>> a fuse inline. The low current stuff will stay on the power pole >>>>> strip >>>>> where they do just fine lighting up lights and stuff. >>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Apr 25, 2020

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2020-04-25 Thread N4ZR
I want to do it right! Gunny, KE0PVQ Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: Gmail<mailto:anyone1...@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 9:03 AM To: Bob McGraw K4TAX<mailto:rmcg...@blomand.net> Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net<

Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation

2020-04-25 Thread Jim Brown
On 4/25/2020 5:13 AM, Chuck Chandler wrote: At rest the K3S panel display shows 13.6V, with full power key down it dips to 11.5 or so. This seems like a lot. I'm running the power cable thru a RigRunner Powerpole strip. If I can dig out another power supply from the packed boxes I can wire t

Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation

2020-04-25 Thread Frank Krozel
;>>>>> On Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 09:16 Don Schroder wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Bob, >>>>>> >>>>>> Is it safe to run my K2 using Anderson Power Pole connections, and/or >>>>>> RigRunner equipm

Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation

2020-04-25 Thread hawley, charles j jr
stuff. >>>> >>>>> On Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 09:16 Don Schroder wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Bob, >>>>> >>>>> Is it safe to run my K2 using Anderson Power Pole connections, and/or >>>>> RigRunner equipment?

Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation

2020-04-25 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
Change the connectors on the power supply to accommodate several ring type connectors.   Use 1" long   #10 bolts, nuts, flat washers and insulating washers which are easy to find at your local hardware store and are very easy to use and replace.  Then you can connect 8 to 10 pieces of equipment

Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation

2020-04-25 Thread Martin Sole
ows 10 From: Gmail<mailto:anyone1...@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 9:03 AM To: Bob McGraw K4TAX<mailto:rmcg...@blomand.net> Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net<mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation Nuts, just measur

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2020-04-25 Thread N4ZR
K4TAX<mailto:rmcg...@blomand.net> Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net<mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation Nuts, just measure the drop between radio and power supply see if it is reasonable. Mine is 0.25 volts when transmitting. I run 14.

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2020-04-25 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
ilto:rmcg...@blomand.net     <mailto:rmcg...@blomand.net>>     Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net <mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net><mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net     <mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net>>     Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation     Nuts, ju

Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation

2020-04-25 Thread Don Wilhelm
Solder each power supply lead to a short length of #10 wire. Insulate the connection well. 73, Don W3FPR On 4/25/2020 11:12 AM, Ron Manfredi wrote: Fewer power supplies (meaning the switching type) have actual terminal bolts to use with ring connectors.  If the supply doesn't have that type

Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation

2020-04-25 Thread Barry Baines via Elecraft
Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for >>> Windows 10 >>> >>> From: Gmail<mailto:anyone1...@gmail.com <mailto:anyone1...@gmail.com>> >>> Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 9:03 AM >>> To: Bob McGraw K4TAX<

Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation

2020-04-25 Thread hawley, charles j jr
t;> For my info, what is the reason for NOT using them? >>> >>> I’m rewiring, and I want to do it right! >>> >>> Gunny, KE0PVQ >>> >>> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for >>> Windows 10 >>&

Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation

2020-04-25 Thread Ron Manfredi
ailman.qth.net <mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net><mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net     <mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net>>     Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation     Nuts, just measure the drop between radio and power supply see if     it is reasonable. Mine

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2020-04-25 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
To: Bob McGraw K4TAX<mailto:rmcg...@blomand.net <mailto:rmcg...@blomand.net>> Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net <mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net><mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net <mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further

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2020-04-25 Thread N4ZR
om/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: Gmail<mailto:anyone1...@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 9:03 AM To: Bob McGraw K4TAX<mailto:rmcg...@blomand.net> Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net<mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying

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2020-04-25 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
Gunny et al: The issue with power distribution strips for DC is resistance. Every contact or connection in the path adds some value of resistance.  Using Ohms law, where E = IR, we see that more resistance = more voltage drop.  This includes the resistance of the DC power cable and any contac

Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation

2020-04-25 Thread Don Wilhelm
ilman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation Nuts, just measure the drop between radio and power supply see if it is reasonable. Mine is 0.25 volts when transmitting. I run 14.0 out of supply. Ray W8LYJ Sent from my iPad On Apr 25, 2020, at 07:48, Bob McG

Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation

2020-04-25 Thread Bill Frantz
The short answer is that too much voltage drop on transmit puts radios in an operational configuration where they produce more IMD and other bad things. Any connection in the power supply will introduce additional resistance. At the current levels used during 100W transmission, it doesn't tak

Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation

2020-04-25 Thread Jim Rhodes
et> > Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net<mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation > > Nuts, just measure the drop between radio and power supply see if it is > reasonable. Mine is 0.25 volts when transmitting. I run 14.0 out

Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation

2020-04-25 Thread Don Schroder
From: Gmail<mailto:anyone1...@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 9:03 AM To: Bob McGraw K4TAX<mailto:rmcg...@blomand.net> Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net<mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation Nuts, just measure the drop

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2020-04-25 Thread Gmail
Nuts, just measure the drop between radio and power supply see if it is reasonable. Mine is 0.25 volts when transmitting. I run 14.0 out of supply. Ray W8LYJ Sent from my iPad > On Apr 25, 2020, at 07:48, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote: > > As to the RigRunner power pole strip.PUT IT IN THE

Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation

2020-04-25 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
As to the RigRunner power pole strip.PUT IT IN THE TRASH where it belongs.    NEVER NEVER NEVER use a power distribution strip to power a 100 watt radio.   ALWAYS connect the radio direct to the power supply terminals.   NO exceptions! 73 Bob, K4TAX On 4/25/2020 7:13 AM, Chuck Chand

[Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation

2020-04-25 Thread Chuck Chandler
After more checking, I suspect the internal 100W amp is the common factor in the poor keying characteristics I'm seeing and hearing about from my rig. I am trying to determine if my power supply is doing it's job. I'm using a TenTec 963 switching supply rated at 25A continuous. At rest the K3S p