Re: [Elecraft] K4 and Linux Infrastructure

2019-06-04 Thread Dave B via Elecraft
Hi. The problem these days, is not only if something is exposed to the www, but even if it can only be "seen" by other nodes on the same LAN.   Such as the main shack PC, that probably can reach out to the WWW.  Once "something" gets into that PC (or your IoT lightbulbs!)  It can at it's leisure s

Re: [Elecraft] K4 and Linux Infrastructure

2019-06-03 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
I apologize if we have created any confusion on this topic.  (Yup - we have been a little busy as of late with the K4 introduction ;-) To be clear - we do not plan on granting open access to the main CPU or K4 internal operating system. That would be a impossible situation to support and it wo

Re: [Elecraft] K4 and Linux Infrastructure

2019-06-03 Thread w7...@comcast.net
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4GLTE smartphone - Reply message - From: "Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT" To: Subject: [Elecraft] K4 and Linux Infrastructure Date: Mon, Jun 3, 2019 15:45 Seriously folks, think about the folks in Elecraft support and Service. Imagine spending an ho

Re: [Elecraft] K4 and Linux Infrastructure

2019-06-03 Thread Fred Jensen
Well, all good discussion, but I advise that you do not hold your breath for "open firm/software in the K4," or basically any access at all.  It's just beyond what any manufacturer can do.  I suppose Eric, who is noted for his business skills, could start up an "E-tunes" app store for the K4, w

Re: [Elecraft] K4 and Linux Infrastructure

2019-06-03 Thread Leroy Buller
oads to deliver ransom ware or bitcoin miners, but > >>> there are other known vectors, including various open ports found while > >>> scanning. It may be the a router would be able to block access, but > the > >>> very peer-to-peer nature of the K4 (controlling o

Re: [Elecraft] K4 and Linux Infrastructure

2019-06-03 Thread Jeff Scaparra
robot army of IoT >>> >>> devices. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thousands of hacked IoT devices are for rent on the dark web, for any >>> >>> script kiddie that wants to attack a particular target. >>> >>> >>>

Re: [Elecraft] K4 and Linux Infrastructure

2019-06-03 Thread W2xj
At this point I am pretty sure Elecraft is up to their neck getting a clean basic radio out on schedule. Additional bells and whistles will probably take a while. Sent from my iPad > On Jun 3, 2019, at 6:07 PM, Al Lorona wrote: > > You guys have now reached the scenario I was trying to ask a

Re: [Elecraft] K4 and Linux Infrastructure

2019-06-03 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
ed by another K4 or PC, tablet, etc, means that routers would need to allow certain inbound connections through the router or firewall.  These allow for interesting attack vectors, which will certainly be exercised, if possible. 73, -- Dave, N8SBE Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [El

Re: [Elecraft] K4 and Linux Infrastructure

2019-06-03 Thread Dave Cole (NK7Z)
ertainly be exercised, if possible. 73, -- Dave, N8SBE Original Message ---- Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 and Linux Infrastructure From: Paul Gacek Date: Mon, June 03, 2019 4:00 pm To: "Dave New, N8SBE" Cc: Elecraft Reflector , Rick WA6NHC Dave DDOS is quite hard for an

Re: [Elecraft] K4 and Linux Infrastructure

2019-06-03 Thread Al Lorona
You guys have now reached the scenario I was trying to ask about last week, but obviously didn't make myself understood. When I asked if the K4 would be able to 'talk to the outside world', I meant an ability to initiate communications with a web site, a server, or something else. Yes, allowing

Re: [Elecraft] K4 and Linux Infrastructure

2019-06-03 Thread Grant Youngman
The Elecraft guys might agree to this after a night of heavy drinking, but I doubt that will happen. You’re right … if it isn’t locked down it would be a nightmare for them, and one for the rest of us, too. Grant NQ5T K3 #2091 KX3 #8342 > On Jun 3, 2019, at 5:43 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: > > Je

Re: [Elecraft] K4 and Linux Infrastructure

2019-06-03 Thread Fred Jensen
Jeff:  In addition to the nightmare for Elecraft you point out, can you imagine the traffic load it would create on this list?  "I loaded WSJT-X, HRD, and N1MM+ and now the K4 doesn't work.  What's wrong?" [:-) 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County On 6/3/2019 2:19 PM, Jeff Sc

Re: [Elecraft] K4 and Linux Infrastructure

2019-06-03 Thread Jeff Scaparra
or PC, tablet, etc, means that routers would >> need to allow certain inbound connections through the router or >> firewall. These allow for interesting attack vectors, which will >> certainly be exercised, if possible. >> >> 73, >> >> -- Dave, N8SBE &

Re: [Elecraft] K4 and Linux Infrastructure

2019-06-03 Thread Jeff Scaparra
K4 or PC, tablet, etc, means that routers would > need to allow certain inbound connections through the router or > firewall. These allow for interesting attack vectors, which will > certainly be exercised, if possible. > > 73, > > -- Dave, N8SBE > > Original Me

Re: [Elecraft] K4 and Linux Infrastructure

2019-06-03 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
eresting attack vectors, which will certainly be exercised, if possible. 73, -- Dave, N8SBE Original Message Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 and Linux Infrastructure From: Paul Gacek Date: Mon, June 03, 2019 4:00 pm To: "Dave New, N8SBE" Cc: Elecraft Reflector , Rick WA6NHC

Re: [Elecraft] K4 and Linux Infrastructure

2019-06-03 Thread Paul Gacek via Elecraft
th the cyber security aspects of this new toy, and what plans you may >> have for outside pen testing, etc. have been made. >> >> At the very least, you should be using authenticated boot and >> authenticated flash, protected by a root certificate in an internal >> hardware trust anchor.

Re: [Elecraft] K4 and Linux Infrastructure

2019-06-03 Thread Rick WA6NHC
h, protected by a root certificate in an internal hardware trust anchor. 73, -- Dave, N8SBE -------- Original Message Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 and Linux Infrastructure From: Wayne Burdick Date: Sun, June 02, 2019 11:52 am To: Leroy Buller Cc: Elecraft Reflector , Lee Buller x8

Re: [Elecraft] K4 and Linux Infrastructure

2019-06-03 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
ted by a root certificate in an internal hardware trust anchor. 73, -- Dave, N8SBE Original Message ---- Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 and Linux Infrastructure From: Wayne Burdick Date: Sun, June 02, 2019 11:52 am To: Leroy Buller Cc: Elecraft Reflector , Lee Buller x86, not PI

Re: [Elecraft] K4 and Linux Infrastructure

2019-06-02 Thread Wayne Burdick
x86, not PI (ARM). It's the controller for internal/external displays and streaming I/O, runs the server for remote clients, and serves as the present/future app engine. Additional details pending. 73, Wayne N6KR > On Jun 1, 2019, at 2:18 PM, Leroy Buller wrote: > > So, K4 and the internal

[Elecraft] K4 and Linux Infrastructure

2019-06-01 Thread Leroy Buller
So, K4 and the internal Linux system. What is it doing for the radio, processor type, clock speed ram, any ssd, and version. I am assuming or guessing it is a PI of some sort or tigally designed by Elecraft? Will anyone know? Lee K0WA __

[Elecraft] K4 and Linux

2019-05-24 Thread Leroy Buller
What is the Linux processor and stats in the K4? Just curious like a nerd Lee K0WA Nerd since 1950 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecr