I also suggest that everyone should consider the other shipping options
available.
I chose USPS Priority Mail, and it was significantly cheaper than UPS
Ground.
It pays to look at all the options.
73, Tony K4QE
On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 9:55 AM, Gary Smith g...@ka1j.com wrote:
I second this.
/14/2015 9:33:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KSYN3A - installation question
I believe that you should ne able to install both boards without
removing the KRX3
73, Ken K3IU
On 2/14/2015 10:03 AM, Dauer, Edward wrote:
First question that came to my mind when I saw
First question that came to my mind when I saw the announcement was
whether the KRX3 had to be removed and reinstalled in order to replace the
synths. I found installing the KRX3 exasperating when I assembled the K3
- success came on about the 12th try.
My K3 is 100 miles from where I am right
I believe that you should ne able to install both boards
without removing the KRX3
73, Ken K3IU
On 2/14/2015 10:03 AM, Dauer, Edward wrote:
First question that came to my mind when I saw the announcement was
whether the KRX3 had to be removed and reinstalled in
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From: Ken K3IU kenk...@cox.net
To: Dauer, Edward eda...@law.du.edu; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: 2/14/2015 9:33:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KSYN3A - installation question
I believe that you should ne able to install both boards without
removing the KRX3
73, Ken K3IU
Don't forget the fuel costs for those of us who drive to/from the PO or UPS
facility
Ken - K0PP elecraftcov...@gmail.com
On Feb 14, 2015 6:08 AM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote:
The total shipping cost to a company consists of not only the cost of
packaging materials and postage,
I second this.
I consider the handling part of Shipping and handling to be
equivalent to the effort assembling a part paying the company for
doing that. The shipping is a fixed price for a company and the
company has to pay staff. Not to charge for that order acceptance and
handling time
13 ounces (the limit for First Class Postal service packages) is
0.8125 pounds, so it might be possible to -mail- the new board and not
use UPS.The postal service would be cheaper, but you'd have to add
insurance, so the price might be a toss-up vs. UPS. If the board
would fit into a
...@law.du.edu
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2015 10:03 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] KSYN3A - installation question
First question that came to my mind when I saw the announcement was
whether the KRX3 had to be removed and reinstalled in order
I find it a bit humorous that the subject invariably arising for a $200 (or
$1000 or $10,000+) item ends up being about chump change on shipping costs.
We’ll drop a bundle on something and then spend hours quibbling about a few
bucks on shipping.
I’m not a terribly sophisticated user of my K3
I found that installing the sub reciever is a lot easier with the handle side
of the K3 removed.
From: Dauer, Edward eda...@law.du.edu
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2015 10:03 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] KSYN3A - installation question
Actually Priority Mail travels as first class and the flat rate boxes and
envelopes are good for up to 70 lbs. Comes with tracking. The limitation is
size. The envelopes and small box are under $6. Where they can be a real
bargain is if you need to mail something to Alaska or Hawaii. Same
I doubt it ... there is not all that much room between the front
bulkhead and the edge of the KRX3 case. In addition, Wayne mentioned
the need to reroute some of the cables with may not be possible if
the KRX3 is in place.
73,
... Joe, W4TV
On 2015-02-14 10:33 AM, Ken K3IU wrote:
I
.
73 Doug EI2CN
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From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
Richard Solomon
Sent: 14 February 2015 20:47
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KSYN3A (shipping)
If you are shipping short distances (next state
Where they can be a real bargain is if you need to mail something to
Alaska or Hawaii.
Actually, a Padded Flat Rate Envelope is a real bargain for many uses.
It's an 8 1/2 x 11 edge loading bubble pack envelope that will often
hold two or three 1 thick small boxes suitable for the K3SYNTH,
If you are shipping short distances (next state or two), the Regional
Rate method
is even cheaper. I sent a Medium size box from Tucson to San Diego for
under $6.
73, Dick, W1KSZ
On 2/14/2015 1:16 PM, David Christ wrote:
Actually Priority Mail travels as first class and the flat rate boxes
I find it a bit humorous that the subject invariably arising for a $200 (or
$1000 or $10,000+) item ends up being about chump change on shipping
costs. We’ll drop a bundle on something and then spend hours quibbling
about a few bucks on shipping.
At least I know I’ll get a box in the mail from
and the box does not address it's selfThey
have to pay someone to do that labor.
From: F5vjc foxfive@gmail.com
To: GRANT YOUNGMAN n...@tx.rr.com
Cc: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2015 6:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KSYN3A (shipping)
I find
In response to a gazillion questions:
* * *
Q: What is involved in upgrading from the KSYN3 to the KSYN3A?
A: The KSYN3A plugs into the same connectors as the KSYN3s for the main and
sub synthesizers. There are minor differences in cable routing that are covered
in the accompanying
What is the passband of the filtering engaged in the KBPF3 when
operating at 630M? The concern at this band in many locations is BCB
intermod, and generally an LPF is used in the RX chain. Is it not of
concern based on on-air tests, perhaps KBPF3 is on the table for an
upgrade, or an
On Fri,2/13/2015 10:27 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
The limiting factor would then be how clean everyone else's signals are.
And in the real world, this is the limiting factor. In my real world,
it's an IC7600 with a legal limit amp ten miles away.
Your own transmit signal will be cleaner
elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 2:15 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] KSYN3A
The most cost effective thing to do is to remove the sub-receive and save
$200 bucks and upgrade the main synth only. I can see a lot of second
receivers on eBay.
R Thorpe K6CG
The most cost effective thing to do is to remove the sub-receive and save $200
bucks and upgrade the main synth only. I can see a lot of second receivers on
eBay.
R Thorpe K6CG
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The KBPF3's lowest-frequency filter has a nominal passband of 0.5-2 MHz. The
rolloff is not particularly steep, but this is the reason that the MDS at 250
kHz is -90 dBm, while it's -125 dBm at 450 kHz.
Intermod should rarely be a factor because of the K3's very robust front end.
Those living
Another interesting issue regarding the Flex 6xxx series (and radios with a
similar direct-digital-sampling RF architecture) is that A/D Limit descriptor
in the blocking dynamic range column in Sherwood's chart. An ADC limit is a
hard one; it does not gracefully soft-limit in the presence of
Why remove it?
The sub receiver is very nice
From: Richard Thorpe kisso...@gmail.com
To: Elecraft List elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 2:15 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] KSYN3A
The most cost effective thing to do is to remove the sub-receive and save $200
bucks
Wayne,
A: With preamp OFF, we measured about -125 dBm at 475 kHz and -90
dBm at 250 kHz. We have not measured MDS below 250 kHz, but the
receiver will gradually become less sensitive as you go lower in
frequency due to band-pass filter rolloff (in the KBPF3, which is
required for operation
11:46 AM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
Why remove it?
The sub receiver is very nice
From: Richard Thorpe kisso...@gmail.com
To: Elecraft List elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 2:15 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] KSYN3A
The most cost effective thing to do
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73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45
From: Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com
To: Eric NO3M n...@no3m.net
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KSYN3A FAQ
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The KBPF3's
I am copying a reply I made on the 600m e-mail reflector as I think
it may answer some questions how the K3 is used down below 500-KHz:
To: Jim Miller jtmille...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [600MRG] [Elecraft] Upgraded K3 synthesizer module now
available: The KSYN3A
One thing I couldn't see from the Elecraft web site: I have a
single receiver K3. If I install the KSYN3A, and later add a
second receiver, which synth do I get in that second receiver.
One advantage of the K3 is its Barbie Doll (tm) feature. I can
add pieces slowly to the radio and stay
: Richard Thorpe kisso...@gmail.com
To: Elecraft List elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 2:15 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] KSYN3A
The most cost effective thing to do is to remove the sub-receive and save $200 bucks and upgrade the main synth only. I can see a lot of second
On 2015-02-13 2:37 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
And in the real world, this is the limiting factor. In my real
world, it's an IC7600 with a legal limit amp ten miles away.
Consider yourself lucky. In my real world, it's an IC-746 and legal
limit amp 0.65 miles away!
Yes. While I've seen statements
Not a totally useless idea, it gives Elecraft a supply for those simple
wanting to add the KXR3 without doing the upgrade. Since they won't be
making more and hams are generically cheap, it will extend the K3 life
for those without a toy budget.
Best to ask Wayne if they can manage that
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Dear OMs,
In no way would I part with my sub-receiver.
==snip===
A few interesting questions have been asked - is there any advantage
On Feb 13, 2015, at 3:15 PM, Bill Frantz fra...@pwpconsult.com wrote:
One thing I couldn't see from the Elecraft web site: I have a single receiver
K3. If I install the KSYN3A, and later add a second receiver, which synth do
I get in that second receiver.
You'll get the new synth with the
I find it had to regard Elecraft-owning hams as
cheap, Rick :-)
Phil W7OX
On 2/13/15 2:49 PM, Rick WA6NHC wrote:
Not a totally useless idea, it gives Elecraft a
supply for those simple wanting to add the KXR3
without doing the upgrade. Since they won't be
making more and hams are
now we need a neat application for the old synth card
seems that there will be a few thousand available
What cool thing could we build in which to nest the olds synth card
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Once I got the new synt's here I can donate my old ones back to elecraft just
in case they are running out of old ones...
vy 73 de VE3GNO Daniel
From: Bill NY9H n...@arrl.net
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KSYN3A
now we
On 2015-02-13 3:15 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
Another interesting issue regarding the Flex 6xxx series (and radios
with a similar direct-digital-sampling RF architecture) is that A/D
Limit descriptor in the blocking dynamic range column in Sherwood's
chart. An ADC limit is a hard one; it does
-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
Richard Thorpe
Sent: 13 February 2015 19:15
To: Elecraft List
Subject: [Elecraft] KSYN3A
The most cost effective thing to do is to remove the sub-receive and save
$200 bucks and upgrade the main synth only. I can see a lot
From: bs usb bs...@k5dkz.com
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KSYN3A
I think the idea is to remove the sub receiver, sell it, and use the
proceeds to offset the cost of another option.
You see lots of second receivers
On 2/13/15 12:54 PM, Doug Turnbull wrote:
Like a few other fortunate souls I have two K3s and if the new KSYN3A
is enough of an advance then I will first upgrade one radio then the other.
Good. You can do an A-B test after upgrading one
of them and give us a full report :-)
Phil W7OX
Yes, that makes sense, Don -- and not so
pejorative as cheap :-)
73, Phil W7OX
On 2/13/15 4:23 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
Consider those who willingly spend $5k or so for
a transceiver configured to the max, but balk at
spending $5 for a cable adapter or something
special of that nature.
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 3:20 PM
To: Bill Frantz
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KSYN3A
On Feb 13, 2015, at 3:15 PM, Bill Frantz fra...@pwpconsult.com wrote:
One thing I couldn't see from the Elecraft web site: I have a single receiver
K3. If I install the KSYN3A
* On 2015 13 Feb 15:20 -0600, Bill NY9H wrote:
now we need a neat application for the old synth card
seems that there will be a few thousand available
Wayne alluded earlier that they were holding some subreceiver kits back
for those interested in fitting one into a K3 with the older
I think you are confusing 'thrifty' and 'stingy'.
Don Wilhelm wrote:
Consider those who willingly spend $5k or so for a transceiver
configured to the max, but balk at spending $5 for a cable adapter or
something special of that nature. Perhaps thrifty is a more
politically correct term.
Consider those who willingly spend $5k or so for a transceiver
configured to the max, but balk at spending $5 for a cable adapter or
something special of that nature. Perhaps thrifty is a more
politically correct term.
73,
Don W3FPR
On 2/13/2015 6:20 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote:
I find it had
I know one of those, obviously far better off than we are, who tips on
the total less tax in a restaurant. I decided to buy him lunch. It is
what it is, we're all different.
On-topic question: I'm totally happy with my fairly vanilla K3 [S/N 642
upgraded a few years ago at Elecraft]. No
Fred,
See my response to Johnny Siu. That is the best I can do to explain it
in layman's terms.
73,
Don W3FPR
On 2/13/2015 8:03 PM, k6...@foothill.net wrote:
What would I gain from the new Synth? I have no nearby phase noise
problems since Jim [WX6V] got a K3, and I think my TX signal is
diversity reception with receivers
connected to different polarities. The sw that provides adaptive
reception is MAP65.
73, Ed - KL7UW
From: Doug Turnbull turnb...@net1.ie
To: 'Richard Thorpe' kisso...@gmail.com,'Elecraft List'
elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KSYN3A
Good thing they don't get into Reef Aquariums
;)
From: Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KSYN3A
Consider those who willingly spend $5k or so for a transceiver
configured to the max, but balk
It's just one of those things that really annoy me. I ordered the
KSYN3A. Shipping via UPS was calculated as $20.00+ for a package
weighting .8 pounds. When I run the same locations and service through
UPS.com I get $8.38. That's a of markup on the shipping. Just sayin
Doug -- K0DXV
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