Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Voice Monitor (MON)

2014-12-05 Thread Walter Underwood
On Nov 19, 2014, at 5:43 AM, Lyle Johnson wrote: > Note that the KX3 has a great tool for adjusting Tx EQ and CMP. Record your > voice using the DVR, then play it back using MON. Adjust Tx EQ and CMP and > play back the sample and you will be able to hear what your signal will sound > like to

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Voice Monitor

2014-11-19 Thread David Ahrendts
Gents, before we stray on this thread. Appreciate all of your input, Genuinely. But, I never had an “issue of a delay” in response in the MON function. My issue was a “muddy” audio response, i.e.: not sibilant enough for my taste, rather weighty at the bottom audio freqs but not balanced at the

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Voice Monitor

2014-11-19 Thread Don Wilhelm
David, The part of the equation that you are not realizing is that there is an inherent delay in DSP processing that may not be apparent with your ICOM-7600 but is present in the KX3. The audio through bone conduction will be apparent in your ears before the audio from the monitor. The dela

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Voice Monitor

2014-11-19 Thread Matt VK2RQ
Besides "bone conduction", another source of delay may be the DSP processing inside the KX3 itself. This can wreak havoc with your CW side tone for example if you add an aftermarket audio DSP to a radio. Elecraft have obviously taken steps to make sure that the KX3 doesn't have an issue with CW

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Voice Monitor

2014-11-19 Thread Walter Underwood
It should be better. Bone conduction happens while you are speaking and enhances the bass. If you listen without speaking, you get a much better idea. wunder K6WRU CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ On Nov 19, 2014, at 5:51 PM, David Ahrendts wrote: > David, thanks for weighing in. I’m exp

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Voice Monitor

2014-11-19 Thread David Ahrendts
David, thanks for weighing in. I’m experimenting with using the DVR and playing back and it is quite effective in judging audio quality. It is a little better than MON “on the fly” since it allows you to step back objectively and really hear. Best and 73s. David A., KC0XT, LA > On Nov 19, 2014

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Voice Monitor

2014-11-19 Thread David DeGeorge
Not so sure that I buy the bone conduction theory; I use the same headset with my ICOM-7600 and its monitor, same head, same bones :-), but no effect. I tried the suggestion to use the DVR and that worked fine, but I like hearing myself when transmitting and I can’t do that. It isn’t a very big de

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Voice Monitor

2014-11-19 Thread Don Wilhelm
David, There *will* be a delay between the monitor output and the sound your ears hear because of bone conduction. That is why Lyle suggested using DVR to evaluate (and adjust) your TX audio EQ settings. 73, Don W3FPR On 11/19/2014 5:52 PM, David DeGeorge wrote: I am a new KX3 user also a

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Voice Monitor

2014-11-19 Thread David Ahrendts
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Voice Monitor

2014-11-19 Thread David DeGeorge
. It present at any level except 0. David WQ2Q From: David Ahrendts To:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Voice Monitor (MON) Message-ID:<48ec1408-5026-4573-b533-efc58254c...@me.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Newby KX3 question: how accu

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Voice Monitor (MON)

2014-11-19 Thread David Ahrendts
Thanks, Lyle. I will try it. 73s. > On Nov 19, 2014, at 5:43 AM, Lyle Johnson wrote: > > The voice monitor in SSB is the processed and filtered I channel of the IQ > audio stream. Since I and Q baseband signals are combined in the transmit > mixer and not the DSP, the resulting monitor audio i

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Voice Monitor (MON)

2014-11-19 Thread Lyle Johnson
The voice monitor in SSB is the processed and filtered I channel of the IQ audio stream. Since I and Q baseband signals are combined in the transmit mixer and not the DSP, the resulting monitor audio is an extremely close but slightly imperfect representation of the transmitted signal. On a p

[Elecraft] KX3 Voice Monitor (MON)

2014-11-18 Thread David Ahrendts
Newby KX3 question: how accurate a representation of voice and transmission characteristics does the Voice Monitor provide on SSB (with accurate headphones, not the KX3 speaker)? Is it approximate, or actual? David Ahrendts, KC0XT, LA KX3, KXPA500, PX3 David Ahrendts davidahren...@me.com