Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 charger question

2021-10-06 Thread Howard Hoyt
Great thread, All who are interested in the KX series Elecraft gear should subscribe to the elecraft...@groups.io group where KX series gear is discussed exclusively.  When Wayne isn't debugging K4 firmware he also often posts there! Cheers & 73, Howie / WA4PSC _

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 charger question

2021-10-06 Thread Walter Underwood
Nice analysis. For Eneloop Pro batteries, with 2550 mAh capacity, that would be 21% of capacity for the clock plus 15% for self-discharge. Of course, whenever the KX3 is connected to “shore power”, that is used instead of the battery. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwo

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 charger question

2021-10-06 Thread Jon Poland
I opened my KX3 and measured the current draw on my internal Eneloop batteries while the radio is off. That current is 60 microamps. At that rate, my 2000mAh batteries will completely drain in roughly 3 years, 9 months. Looking at it from a different angle: After 1 year, a fully charged set of

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 charger question

2021-10-05 Thread Eric Norris
I dunno about smoke detector batts, BUT--in my extensive tests with rechargeable v. non-rechargeable CR123A batts for Arlo cameras, the non-rechargeable ones last twice as long. I hate to generate the excess waste, but hauling my degraded carcass up a ladder twice as often while alone and afraid :

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 charger question

2021-10-05 Thread Josh Fiden
You’re supposed to replace the smoke detectors every 10 years because they lose sensitivity. In my experience, 9v alkalines in the AC powered models last nearly that long. I assume it’s just the shelf life of the battery. 73 Josh W6XU Sent from my mobile device > On Oct 5, 2021, at 1:22 PM, j

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 charger question

2021-10-05 Thread Mike Short
Get regular 9v batteries and change them when you set your clocks to/from daylight savings time On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 16:07 Julia Tuttle wrote: > I'm using Energizer Ultimate Lithium batteries in my smoke detectors and so > far they seem to last a long time. > > One risk is that their discharge

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 charger question

2021-10-05 Thread Julia Tuttle
I'm using Energizer Ultimate Lithium batteries in my smoke detectors and so far they seem to last a long time. One risk is that their discharge curve is higher and flatter than alkaline and then drops precipitously at the end of their lifetime. Fortunately yours are hard-wired, so they should stil

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 charger question

2021-10-05 Thread jerry
I have a related questions about batteries discharging... Not really about ham radio, all please feel free to delete... We have a *lot* of smoke detectors. They are the kind that runs off the AC, but each one has a backup battery. The other day, one started beeping...and beeping...and beep

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 charger question

2021-10-05 Thread Gwen Patton
To: Elecraft > Sent: Tue, Oct 5, 2021 12:25 am > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 charger question > > Docs call for Nickel Metal Hydride batteries, not Nickel Cadmium. I don't > think the internal charger is designed for NICAD batteries. Unless you're > using a separate char

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 charger question

2021-10-05 Thread Don Wilhelm
Eddy, The most likely answer is that your batteries are self discharging.  NiMH batteries will do that, although there are low self discharge batteries available that you should look into. 73, Don W3FPR On 10/4/2021 11:14 PM, Eddy - k6sdw wrote: I have a KX3 with the KXBC3 Nimh charger an

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 charger question

2021-10-05 Thread Walter Underwood
From the instructions: "Only a few microamperes of current are required to keep the clock running when the KX3 is off. This is supplied by either the external power supply or the internal batteries.” https://ftp.elecraft.com/KX3/Manuals%20Downloads/E740167%20Elecraft%20KXBC3%20Installation%20an

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 charger question

2021-10-05 Thread Gwen Patton
Docs call for Nickel Metal Hydride batteries, not Nickel Cadmium. I don't think the internal charger is designed for NICAD batteries. Unless you're using a separate charger? 73, Gwen, NG3P On Mon, Oct 4, 2021, 11:16 PM Eddy - k6sdw wrote: > I have a KX3 with the KXBC3 Nimh charger and Nimh bat

[Elecraft] KXBC3 charger question

2021-10-04 Thread Eddy - k6sdw
I have a KX3 with the KXBC3 Nimh charger and Nimh batteries installed. My question is: What's the current drain on the NICADS when I store the KX3 for long periods of time? The KX3 is primarily used for portable operation and when I put the KX3 on the bench the batteries are dead needing rechargin

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 battery charger

2021-07-02 Thread Geert Jan de Groot
I found it annoying. I had the NiMH batteries in it, charging them up periodically, until I had an issue with upgrading the firmware. The radio got stuck in an error mode, and the instructions on the website for dealing with the problem said to pull the power cable to shut it down completely...

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 battery charger

2021-07-01 Thread Gwen Patton
If you have a KX3, you can add USB-C power to it now. Check my blog at https://www.ng3p.com and I give all particulars for running QRP rigs with either USB-C PD power banks or, more recently, USB-A QC power banks. The circuitry for doing it has gotten so small, it should be possible to 3d-print a s

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 battery charger

2021-07-01 Thread rich
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2021 16:20 To: Frank O'Donnell Cc: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 battery charger I found it annoying. I had the NiMH batteries in it, charging them up periodically, until I had an issue with upgrading the firmware. The radio got stuck in an error mod

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 battery charger

2021-07-01 Thread Julia Tuttle
Gosh, if and when the KX4 is a thing, I would love to see a USB-C power + CAT + audio option. On Thu, Jul 1, 2021, 16:49 Gwen Patton wrote: > I found it annoying. I had the NiMH batteries in it, charging them up > periodically, until I had an issue with upgrading the firmware. The radio > got st

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 battery charger

2021-07-01 Thread Gwen Patton
I found it annoying. I had the NiMH batteries in it, charging them up periodically, until I had an issue with upgrading the firmware. The radio got stuck in an error mode, and the instructions on the website for dealing with the problem said to pull the power cable to shut it down completely...exce

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 battery charger

2021-07-01 Thread Jim Brown
On 7/1/2021 1:23 PM, Julia Tuttle wrote: I wouldn't use it for*serious* battery operation -- lithium ion batteries are just so much better For reasons of safety, LiFePO4 is generally accepted as the chemistry most suited for our operation. Bioenne is a good vendor. I know several other hams

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 battery charger

2021-07-01 Thread Julia Tuttle
setup. > > Yes, the clock is not very accurate but I barely use that feature. > > I say go for the charger! > 72 > Howard Kraus, K2UD > > -From: "Frank O'Donnell" > To: "Elecraft Reflector" > Cc: >

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 battery charger

2021-07-01 Thread QRP5W
s not very accurate but I barely use that feature. I say go for the charger! 72 Howard Kraus, K2UD -From: "Frank O'Donnell" To: "Elecraft Reflector" Cc: Sent: Thursday July 1 2021 4:10:56PM Subject: [Elecraft] KXBC3 battery c

[Elecraft] KXBC3 battery charger

2021-07-01 Thread Frank O'Donnell
I have a KX3 bought new in 2018 that has close to all of the available options with the exception of the KXBC3 battery charger. Until now I haven't paid much attention to this, as I've usually used the radio with a Pro Audio PSU when 110vac is available, otherwise with a Bioenno external batte

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 clock accuracy?

2021-03-07 Thread Mike Morrow
should be expected. Mike / KK5F -Original Message- >From: Julia Tuttle >Sent: Mar 7, 2021 6:20 PM >To: Elecraft >Subject: [Elecraft] KXBC3 clock accuracy? > >Hi, > >How accurate do folks find the RTC on the KXBC3 is? Mine seems to be >gaining a second or so

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 clock accuracy?

2021-03-07 Thread Julia Tuttle
nal Message----- > From: Julia Tuttle > To: Elecraft > Sent: Sun, Mar 7, 2021 7:20 pm > Subject: [Elecraft] KXBC3 clock accuracy? > > Hi, > > How accurate do folks find the RTC on the KXBC3 is? Mine seems to be >

[Elecraft] KXBC3 clock accuracy?

2021-03-07 Thread Julia Tuttle
Hi, How accurate do folks find the RTC on the KXBC3 is? Mine seems to be gaining a second or so a day and I want to know if this is within the expected accuracy. Thanks, Julie __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailma

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 Charging source

2020-07-19 Thread Jim H via Elecraft
Highly recommend the Pro Audio Engineering.com power supply. model PAE-Kx3373Jim Hk7sss In a message dated 7/19/2020 7:37:47 PM Pacific Standard Time, elecraft@mailman.qth.net writes:  I am looking for recommendation for a compact switching power supply product to recharge my KX3 via the install

[Elecraft] KXBC3 Charging source

2020-07-19 Thread David Andrews via Elecraft
I am looking for recommendation for a compact switching power supply product to recharge my KX3 via the installed KXBC3. I had been using a Bioenno external battery pack, but have decided to start using internal NiMH batteries when on the road. 73, Dave KA1DA __

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 question

2019-10-13 Thread Grant Youngman
The LO SUPPLY message indicates the power supply is delivering less than 13.8vdc at the KX3. Can you adjust your supply voltage a bit higher? Grant NQ5T KX3 (8342)/KXPA100 > On Oct 14, 2019, at 12:10 AM, Eddy Avila wrote: > > My KX3 is about 2 years old, recently I set he The KXBC3 to 16h

[Elecraft] KXBC3 question

2019-10-13 Thread Eddy Avila
My KX3 is about 2 years old, recently I set he The KXBC3 to 16hr charge and powered down the KX3 and everything looked normal. However, a few hours later I noticed the Lo-Supply message was flashing on and off, but when I checked the KX3 was getting 13.61vdc and I believe charging was still taking

[Elecraft] KXBC3 clock drift

2016-08-29 Thread VE2PID
Looking at the schematic of the KXBC3, the real time clock seems to be a part of chip PIC24F16KA10. And a reference to that chip says this: 29.3.9 Calibration The real-time crystal input can be calibrated using the periodic auto-adjust feature. When properly calibrated, the RTCC can

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 clock drift

2016-08-29 Thread Don Wilhelm
Erik, If you want to experiment with trimming the oscillator for the clock, you can try varying the capacitance of C7 and C8 on the KXBC3 option board. Nominal capacitor values are +/- 5%, so you may be able to find suitable capacitors that vary a bit from the nominal 15pF value that will set

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 clock drift

2016-08-29 Thread etks...@gmail.com
Ha ha, a little snarky comment-wise, but it's an annoyance, not a deal breaker... :-) I was just wondering if it was a one-off issue, and/or if there was a possibility of correcting the issue in any way. I've been doing some experimenting with condo patio antennas (hamstick dipole up a painte

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 clock drift

2016-08-29 Thread David Pratt
In a recent message, "etks...@gmail.com" writes >When you are logging to paper and have the radio clock displayed for >the specific purpose of having a handy UTC clock it's annoying when >it's off. The KXBC3 is marketed as a battery charger and RTC, and I >bought it for both. As it turned out no

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 clock drift

2016-08-29 Thread etks...@gmail.com
When you are logging to paper and have the radio clock displayed for the specific purpose of having a handy UTC clock it's annoying when it's off. The KXBC3 is marketed as a battery charger and RTC, and I bought it for both. Erik W1QED Sent from my iPad On Aug 28, 2016, at 12:46 PM, GRANT

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 clock drift

2016-08-28 Thread Bill
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wes Stewart Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2016 7:29 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 clock drift And my factory-built K3S. Sometimes I feel like an unpaid beta tester:-) To Elecraft's credit they almo

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 clock drift

2016-08-28 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
It'd draw power and make the radio bigger. On 8/28/2016 9:58 AM, Clay Autery wrote: So you think an onboard GPS is absurd, Don? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.n

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 clock drift

2016-08-28 Thread Wes Stewart
And my factory-built K3S. Sometimes I feel like an unpaid beta tester:-) To Elecraft's credit they almost always* fix it in due time. (I keep a spare radio on hand just in case) * still waiting for that VOX/AntiVOX gain setting by mode. As I write CY9C's RTTY signal is breaking up on the be

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 Clock Drift

2016-08-28 Thread Gary Smith
This may be a redux of what has already been stated but I am a nut for stability in my radio and my timekeeping. What I have done is purchased a BG7TBL from faymo-trading.service for $150 from Hong Kong (fast shipping and the newest version of this GPSDO). He still apparently is selling them:

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 clock drift & On-Board GPS

2016-08-28 Thread Wes Stewart
I wish I would have bought something from them instead of the Leo Bodnar unit. It seems to be fine but the support is lacking. On 8/28/2016 11:16 AM, Clay Autery wrote: Jackson Labs makes REALLY nice stuff... And THAT is not expensive in the grand scheme of things... LOTS of GPSDOs et al tim

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 clock drift

2016-08-28 Thread Don Wilhelm
Dave, Yes, the RTC is an "add-on convenience" item for the rig. It is a nice thing to have for logging when operating portable (set it before the outing). As far as digital modes go, the Elecraft gear offers only PSK and FSK internally and as far as I know, those are not time critical and l

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 clock drift

2016-08-28 Thread Mark via Elecraft
Re:  "$10 wristwatches are accurate to a few seconds per month." Yep!  That is exactly what the original poster was concerned with.  You said it even better than he did.  The original poster's KXBC3 clock isn't as accurate as a $10 wristwatch.  Mine isn't either, last time I checked it.   The po

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 clock drift & On-Board GPS

2016-08-28 Thread Phil Wheeler
HTs, of course. But I meant HF rigs. Sounds like there may be a few. Phil -- Sent from my iPhone 5S > On Aug 28, 2016, at 13:10, Bill Gerth wrote: > > Hi Phil, > > My Kenwood TMD710GA mobile ham transceiver has an onboard GPS receiver, > synchronized realtime clock, AND a packet TNC. Makes

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 clock drift & On-Board GPS

2016-08-28 Thread Bill Gerth
Hi Phil, My Kenwood TMD710GA mobile ham transceiver has an onboard GPS receiver, synchronized realtime clock, AND a packet TNC. Makes a dandy self-contained APRS system. Granted, it is only for VHF/UHF on the ham bands (no HF). It also makes it really easy to set the KXBC3 clock in my KX3 ju

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 clock drift

2016-08-28 Thread Bill Frantz
I certainly agree with Jim about liking light weight radios. I take my K3 out 2 or 3 times a year, and being able to easily carry it is very welcome. My KX3 is a perfect airplane rig. But the real advantage of the radios, and the K3 in particular, is their modular construction. When the K3S ca

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 clock drift

2016-08-28 Thread w7aqk
blem, though, so maybe someone from Elecraft can explain it. Then we can all get back to our regularly scheduled program, which is already in progress! Dave W7AQK -- From: Don Wilhelm To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 clock drift Message-ID: &

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 Clock Drift

2016-08-28 Thread Kevin
without getting into the configuration menu. As I recall it’s in the KX3 Utility as well. Ted, KN1CBR -- Message: 9 Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2016 08:34:22 -0600 From: Ken G Kopp To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 cl

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 clock drift & On-Board GPS

2016-08-28 Thread Alan. G4GNX
I believe that the IC7100 has the facility, but it's an option. 73, Alan. G4GNX -Original Message- From: Phil Wheeler Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2016 6:06 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 clock drift & On-Board GPS As a matter of curiosity bec

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 clock drift

2016-08-28 Thread Jim Brown
On Sun,8/28/2016 11:12 AM, Joe Stone (KF5WBO) wrote: I would say a customer has every right to see the schematic. I think so too, but Elecraft is one of the few mfrs that provides schematics for most, if not all, of their products. 73, Jim K9YC __

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 clock drift

2016-08-28 Thread Don Wilhelm
I have a Seiko watch that is extremely accurate twice a day! You just have to know when to look at it. One day I will put a new battery in it.:-) 73, Don W3FPR On 8/28/2016 2:25 PM, Kevin wrote: Well that's it darn it! I won't be happy with my radio till there's and actual cesium clock built

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 clock drift

2016-08-28 Thread Jim Brown
You are both correct -- I live about 20 miles from Eric, 3 miles from K6XX, and know Wayne from many conversations both on and off the reflector, including several in the bar at ham events. These guys are VERY clear-eyed observers of the scene, and I've never seen "worship" of their product lin

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 clock drift

2016-08-28 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
There is an argument that if a clock is included it should at perform as well as we expect from other timepieces. Of course the next step beyond a highly-accurate clock that does not require resetting is to have the K3S able to use that time, read frequencies and signal levels, modes, etc., and

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 clock drift

2016-08-28 Thread Mark via Elecraft
lector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 clock drift > > Re:  "...the clock seems to lose a couple of minutes per month.” > You know a radio must be pretty good when the complaints start drifting off to how accurate (or not) it

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 clock drift

2016-08-28 Thread Kevin
Well that's it darn it! I won't be happy with my radio till there's and actual cesium clock built in or available as an add on option. That'll make my JT65/JT9 signals hyper accurate...Oh wait...that's the computer clock. I *demand* while Elecraft is fixing my radio's clock they also offer a f

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 clock drift

2016-08-28 Thread Clay Autery
Never mind... ;-) __ Clay Autery, KY5G MONTAC Enterprises (318) 518-1389 On 8/28/2016 12:46 PM, Rose wrote: > > No need ... my eyes can view a cellphone as easily as on a radio's > display ... maybe easier / quicker if I have to call it up into the > display. (Mine has abou

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 Clock Drift

2016-08-28 Thread Clay Autery
s I recall it’s in the KX3 Utility as well. > > Ted, KN1CBR > > -- > > Message: 9 > Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2016 08:34:22 -0600 > From: Ken G Kopp > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 clock drift

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 clock drift

2016-08-28 Thread Alan. G4GNX
016 6:46 PM To: Clay Autery ; Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 clock drift No need ... my eyes can view a cellphone as easily as on a radio's display ... maybe easier / quicker if I have to call it up into the display. (Mine has about a half inch high display.) That's

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 clock drift & On-Board GPS

2016-08-28 Thread Clay Autery
Jackson Labs makes REALLY nice stuff... And THAT is not expensive in the grand scheme of things... LOTS of GPSDOs et al time/freq standards costing many multiples of that price... :) __ Clay Autery, KY5G MONTAC Enterprises (318) 518-1389 On 8/28/2016 12:17 PM, Peter Pauly w

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 clock drift

2016-08-28 Thread Joe Stone (KF5WBO)
Mike, > The manufacturer specs for all the Elecraft RTC chips promise much better. What Elecraft RTC chips are you referring to? The KXBC3 keeps time using a PIC microcontroller. > ... a customer does indeed have every right to expect a competent RTC > implementation when he purchases the optio

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 clock drift

2016-08-28 Thread David Anderson via Elecraft
Funnily enough the IC-7300 guys were complaining about the same thing ;-) 73 from David GM4JJJ > On 28 Aug 2016, at 17:46, GRANT YOUNGMAN wrote: > > >> >> Re: "...the clock seems to lose a couple of minutes per month.” > > You know a radio must be pretty good when the complaints start drift

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 clock drift

2016-08-28 Thread Rose
No need ... my eyes can view a cellphone as easily as on a radio's display ... maybe easier / quicker if I have to call it up into the display. (Mine has about a half inch high display.) That's assuming that the name of the game is simply knowing what time it is, as opposed to "playing" with a ra

[Elecraft] KXBC3 Clock Drift

2016-08-28 Thread Dauer, Edward
, KN1CBR -- Message: 9 Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2016 08:34:22 -0600 From: Ken G Kopp To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 clock drift Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Virtually everyone has

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 clock drift

2016-08-28 Thread Phil Hystad
Ditto! Well, actually, I did once have an accurate (for its day) clock on my receiver, my HQ-170AC, back in or about 1964 to 1967. Being run by a synchronous motor, the local power company had the job of keeping my clock accurate (feature of AGC controlling ACE and Frequency). But, today, in

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 clock drift & On-Board GPS

2016-08-28 Thread Peter Pauly
Flexradio offers a GPSDO option for their receivers. It's made by Jackson Labs (and it isn't cheap): http://cart.flexradio.com/FLEX-65006700-GPSDO-Upgrade_p_899.html It's internal to the radio. On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 1:06 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote: > As a matter of curiosity because I've not loo

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 clock drift & On-Board GPS

2016-08-28 Thread Phil Wheeler
As a matter of curiosity because I've not looked into it: Are there any ham transceivers with on-board GPS receivers? Phil W7OX On 8/28/16 9:58 AM, Clay Autery wrote: So you think an onboard GPS is absurd, Don? We can dream... we can dream. :-) __ Clay Autery, KY5G MON

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 clock drift

2016-08-28 Thread Clay Autery
OK Ken... How do you propose to get that "uber-accurate" time from the cell phone into the radio? __ Clay Autery, KY5G MONTAC Enterprises (318) 518-1389 On 8/28/2016 9:34 AM, Ken G Kopp wrote: > Virtually everyone has cellphone at hand and it will provide the most > accurate

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 clock drift

2016-08-28 Thread Clay Autery
So you think an onboard GPS is absurd, Don? We can dream... we can dream. :-) __ Clay Autery, KY5G MONTAC Enterprises (318) 518-1389 On 8/28/2016 9:19 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > I would like an icebox in my KX3 to keep my sandwiches cool while > portable. > Oh, and how about

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 clock drift

2016-08-28 Thread GRANT YOUNGMAN
> > Re: "...the clock seems to lose a couple of minutes per month.” > You know a radio must be pretty good when the complaints start drifting off to how accurate (or not) it is as a timepiece ;-) Grant NQ5T __ Elecraft mailing lis

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 clock drift

2016-08-28 Thread Mark via Elecraft
Re:  "...the clock seems to lose a couple of minutes per month." I didn't buy the KXBC3 for the clock, and I don't expect it to automatically sync with WWV or GPS, but mine seems to be sensitive to applied voltage: If I leave 14v applied to my KX3, it gains a few seconds per day, probably not f

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 clock drift

2016-08-28 Thread Phil Wheeler
I think you overreact a bit, Mike. I can criticize Elecraft with the best of them if a product does not do as promised. But nowhere in any spec or promise have I seen highly accurate time-keeping -- but perhaps my reading skills fail me with age. In my shack I have a large LaCrosse clock, upd

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 clock drift

2016-08-28 Thread Ray Sills
OTOH, many criticisms have resulted in improvements in the products. Wayne and Eric are quite capable of tolerating criticism, so owners are more than welcome to point out any deficiency or problem. That’s why people like Elecraft products: having the ear of the company. 73 de Ray K2ULR KX3 #

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 clock drift

2016-08-28 Thread Wes Stewart
QSL On 8/28/2016 7:55 AM, Mike Morrow wrote: Elecraft fans often have a great tendency to dismiss without substantive basis any non-worshipful criticism...at least as far as I've observed in 16 years as an owner and list member. :-) Mike / KK5F _

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 clock drift

2016-08-28 Thread Mike Morrow
> I would like an icebox in my KX3 to keep my sandwiches cool while portable. > Oh, and how about an automatic coffee maker for use during contest > periods. :-) I would be suprised that even as a joke the listing above could win any arguments for the extraordinary lack of performance of Elecra

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 clock drift

2016-08-28 Thread Ken G Kopp
Virtually everyone has cellphone at hand and it will provide the most accurate time commonly available. 73! K0PP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 clock drift

2016-08-28 Thread Phil Wheeler
Maybe just buy a $15 wristwatch with a 10 year battery made by Casio and set it every week or so ? :-) Phil W7OX On 8/28/16 7:19 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote: I would like an icebox in my KX3 to keep my sandwiches cool while portable. Oh, and how about an automatic coffee maker for use during conte

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 clock drift

2016-08-28 Thread Don Wilhelm
I would like an icebox in my KX3 to keep my sandwiches cool while portable. Oh, and how about an automatic coffee maker for use during contest periods. :-) 73, Don W3FPR On 8/28/2016 10:01 AM, Clay Autery wrote: Mmmm... not JUST the KX3! _

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 clock drift

2016-08-28 Thread Clay Autery
Mmmm... not JUST the KX3! __ Clay Autery, KY5G MONTAC Enterprises (318) 518-1389 On 8/28/2016 8:52 AM, kevino z wrote: > Wish the KX3 had an actual GPS add on board. It could grab the time, as well > as use the PPS for other things. > -Kevin (KK4YEL) > > No trees were kill

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 clock drift

2016-08-28 Thread kevino z
Wish the KX3 had an actual GPS add on board. It could grab the time, as well as use the PPS for other things. -Kevin (KK4YEL) No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However, a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced ! > On Aug 28, 2016, at 09:48, Brian Waterworth

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 clock drift

2016-08-28 Thread Brian Waterworth
I have noticed the same thing. I was portable and wanted to use the KX3 clock to set my Raspberry Pi's clock I was using for JT65. I was shocked at how far afield the KX3 time was. I fortunately had downloaded a GPS app to my smartphone that gave me the GPS system time and this was enough to get

[Elecraft] KXBC3 clock drift

2016-08-28 Thread E T
I’ve had my KX3 for a few months, got it with the KXBC3 charger and clock. However, the clock seems to lose a couple of minutes per month. Considering the cost of the option I would expect it to be a little more reliable... :-P Has anyone else seen this? Is there an adjustment for drift? T

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 install...

2016-08-05 Thread Don Wilhelm
Tom, If you built the KX3, it should be no problem. There is one 2-56 size screw but the rest are 4-40 size. The #4 lockwasher is the smallest part, so if you can handle that you will not have a problem. Download the KXBC3 manual to get an idea of what is involved. 73, Don W3FPR On 8/5/201

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 install...

2016-08-05 Thread Walter Underwood
The KXBC3 is very easy to install. As I remember, the trickiest bit was getting the adhesive shield lined up right before I stuck it on. Installation instructions are here, starting on page five. You can open up your radio and look at the screws where it will go. I don’t remember them being esp

[Elecraft] KXBC3 install...

2016-08-05 Thread Tom Francis
Greetings, What I didn't order with the KX3 was the internal battery charger. Now that I have the KX2 and know how handy it is to have the internal battery, I'm considering getting the KXBC3 for my KX3. What I need to know is how hard is it to install? I have advanced arthritis in my fingers an

[Elecraft] KXBC3 Clock accuracy

2015-10-01 Thread Pierre
Hi to all The accuracy of the KXBC3 clock is at best marginal ... But ... Looking at the schematic of the KXBC3, the real time clock seems to be a part of chip PIC24F16KA10. And a reference to that chip says this: 29.3.9 Calibration The real-time crystal input can be calibrated using the

[Elecraft] KXBC3 says it's not installed.

2013-06-22 Thread Mike Weir
I have had the KXBC3 installed for some time now in the KX3. I have not been able to read the voltage reading in VFO B for about 2 weeks now. Just thought it was a menu setting and was going to look into it later. Today is field day and the internal batteries were charged last night. I now wante

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 charging schedule for self discharge

2013-04-21 Thread Greg Troxel
[this message would have been OpenPGP-signed if such signatures were not rejected by the list] Mike WA8BXN writes: > I have a set of Maha 2700 mAh NiMH batteries in my KX3. Its used mostly with > a 14.4 V power supply. The instruction sheet for the KXBC3 indicates > batteries typically self disc

[Elecraft] KXBC3 charging schedule for self discharge

2013-04-21 Thread Mike WA8BXN
I have a set of Maha 2700 mAh NiMH batteries in my KX3. Its used mostly with a 14.4 V power supply. The instruction sheet for the KXBC3 indicates batteries typically self discharging 2% per day. What would be a good charging plan (how often/how many hours) to keep the batteries reasonably charged a

[Elecraft] KXBC3 Question!

2013-04-14 Thread Jim Harris
*Good morning, Folks.* ** *My KX3 has the KXBC3 Option with 200 maH NIMH Batteries installed: fully charged to 11.0V (indicated).* ** *When I set the BAT MIN to 8.5 in the Menu as is recommended in the Owner's Manual and if I was to transmit using these internal batteries at 3W with BKLIGHT "OFF",

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 behavior

2013-02-05 Thread Peter Lambert
2 button salute. Then turn it back on and start the charge cycle. Regards, Peter VK4JD -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Fred Carvalho Sent: Wednesday, 6 February 2013 8:25 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sub

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 behavior

2013-02-03 Thread Rich Heineck
Fred, Most likely the battery temperature got up to 45 degrees C and charging was suspended until they cooled to 40 C. Normally a message should appearwhen that happens. 73, Rich AC7MA On 02/01/2013 12:02 PM, Fred Carvalho wrote: Hi Folks. Sorry if this has been asked/explained before. I

[Elecraft] KXBC3 trickle charge option?

2013-01-29 Thread Mike Weir
Good morning, I was wondering if Elecraft was thinking/ thought of implementing ( if possible) a trickle charge addition to the KXBC3 module for the KX3 rig? I know this has been brought up in the past was not sure if it was address or soon to be? Mike VE3WDM

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 charging

2013-01-28 Thread Rich Heineck
The recommended 13.8V minimum is for the external supply, and does take into account the diode drop. 73, Rich AC7MA On 01/27/2013 03:42 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: Mine charges just fine from a 13.8 VDC supply. 73 Ron AC7AC -Original Message- Hi, I believe your PS reading is too lo

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 charging

2013-01-27 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Mine charges just fine from a 13.8 VDC supply. 73 Ron AC7AC -Original Message- Hi, I believe your PS reading is too low. The PS reading on the KX3 should be at least 13.8 volts. There is a polarity diode so your ext power supply should be 14+ volts. At least this what my KX3 needs to cha

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 charging

2013-01-27 Thread VE3WDM
Good evening all. I believe I solved the problem I had put the rig on charge (so I thought) last night for 16 hours. Once I turned the rig off the LCD just went to it's normal black screen. After posting my question I wanted to try a 4 hour charge and once the rig was shut off the display light up

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 charging

2013-01-27 Thread Don Butler
You should have greater than 10.0 volts after a full charge I would check the batteries individuallyyou may have one or more bad batteries Sent from my iPad On Jan 27, 2013, at 12:59 PM, Mike Weir wrote: > > Good afternoon all, I installed the KXBC3 in my KX3 last night and it had no

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 charging

2013-01-27 Thread Greg Troxel
Mike Weir writes: > 1. Batteries that are installed are Ansmann 2850 MaH NiMH brand new > min charge on them if any. > 2. Put time on KX3 for 16 hours of charge time and left the Astron > power supply for full 16 hours. 16h * 200mA = 3200 mAh. That's not enough to fully charge 2850 mAh batterie

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 charging

2013-01-27 Thread k7sss
Hi, I believe your PS reading is too low. The PS reading on the KX3 should be at least 13.8 volts. There is a polarity diode so your ext power supply should be 14+ volts. At least this what my KX3 needs to charge. 73 Jim H K7SSS In a message dated 1/27/2013 11:59:51 A.M. Pacific Standard T

[Elecraft] KXBC3 charging

2013-01-27 Thread Mike Weir
Good afternoon all, I installed the KXBC3 in my KX3 last night and it had no error messages or problems.up until now. Here is what I did and what is happening. 1. Batteries that are installed are Ansmann 2850 MaH NiMH brand new min charge on them if any. 2. Put time on KX3 for 16 hours of

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 shipping status

2013-01-21 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Shipping form stock. :-) 73, Eric elecraft.com On 1/21/2013 1:52 PM, Jeffrey Otterson wrote: I'm wondering about the latest KXBC3 shipping status. The shipping status page on the web site has had pretty much the same information for the KXBC3 for a while -- is there any news? Thanks, Jeff

[Elecraft] KXBC3 shipping status

2013-01-21 Thread Jeffrey Otterson
I'm wondering about the latest KXBC3 shipping status. The shipping status page on the web site has had pretty much the same information for the KXBC3 for a while -- is there any news? Thanks, Jeff __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://m

Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 "observations"

2012-12-17 Thread Ignacy
Good to hear such stories. Charging NiMH is not easy. I bought 4.8Ah Li-Ion battery for $57. Weighs 10 oz. Six weeks ago charged from 4A 4 oz computer charger in 1.5 h. Traveled to OH, ES and PA and made many contacts from each country. Came back and made many more contacts. 12W all the time. Bat

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