Re: [Elecraft] New K1 Kit

2019-06-07 Thread Jwahar Bammi via Elecraft
Can I humbly suggest looking at the excellent offerings from Hans Summers and qrp-labs. The QCX and the upcoming QSX fit the bill. The QCX i dare say, is hands down the best kit, with the exemplary documentation and support both from the community and Hans himself. It bests even Heathkit of

Re: [Elecraft] New K1 Kit

2019-06-07 Thread hawley, charles j jr
Hey, I have a dumb idea. How about a K1 box with a KX2 inside. Sort of. Actually might be nice to have some room inside. Chuck Jack Hawley KE9UW Sent from my iPhone, cjack > On Jun 7, 2019, at 10:38 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > > While I appreciate the sentiments, I don't think we'd want to

Re: [Elecraft] New K1 Kit

2019-06-07 Thread Wayne Burdick
While I appreciate the sentiments, I don't think we'd want to authorize a clone of the K1. In addition to the copyrighted PCBs, there's a lot of IP in the firmware needed to run the radio, band modules, ATU, etc. Wayne N6KR > > >> On Jun 7, 2019, at 11:29 AM, Glen Torr wrote: >> >> Petr,

Re: [Elecraft] New K1 Kit

2019-06-07 Thread Paul Gacek via Elecraft
Glen Maybe but a long shot. My sense is that while Elecraft is exceptionally busy with the K4, if any real serious commercial life was left in the K1 then Elecraft understandably would want to exploit it. The but comes from Wayne granting the right for the NorCal 40 to be “copied” but only as

Re: [Elecraft] New K1 Kit

2019-06-07 Thread Glen Torr
Petr, If their are lots of us interested we could do a replica. I do PCBs and PIC programming for a radio telescope (part time, I am an old fart). Is this doable? Cheers, Glen VK1FB On Fri, 7 Jun 2019 at 8:16 pm, Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS wrote: > Hi all, > > check the price of rare K1 on eBay. K1

Re: [Elecraft] New K1 Kit

2019-06-07 Thread Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS
Hi all, check the price of rare K1 on eBay. K1 goes still so extremely high (if some K1 is available) on the auctions that it definitely shows how K1 is wanted and valued even another radios like KX2, KX1 etc. are on the market! try to thinking with coffee in hands "why...?" K1 is on of the most

Re: [Elecraft] New K1 Kit

2019-06-07 Thread Edward R Cole
Its a skill that one needs time and practise to master. I used to run a home business building smd kits for others after a career as a component level technician where I did smd repairs. But the last generation of MOT intrinsically safe radios required a $10,000 school and a dedicated repair

Re: [Elecraft] New K1 Kit

2019-06-06 Thread EricJ
#1 would be true for thru-hole components. SMD components on a board in, say, a K3 were ramped up to about 225 deg C (435 deg F) over SEVERAL minutes. They're designed to withstand those temps. I don't know what the little heat gun I use puts out, but it doesn't burn paper which famously burns

Re: [Elecraft] New K1 Kit

2019-06-06 Thread Gwen Patton
I have serious issues with dexterity as a complication from a broken neck in 2006. I've used sport lock picking as a form of occupational therapy. It has really helped me keep and improve my hand and finger coordination. That translates well to soldering capability. It's not perfect, but it's

Re: [Elecraft] New K1 Kit

2019-06-06 Thread Al Lorona
1/ It always seemed to me that this method heats up the components much more than using a simple soldering iron, where you can pause between soldering each pad to allow heat to dissipate. 2/ Is that a capacitor standing up at about the 1:12 mark? Not good. Al  W6LX

Re: [Elecraft] New K1 Kit

2019-06-06 Thread demindor
So true... Eyesight and finger dexterity are the right tools as well. And, as it was so astutely stated - not everyone has the right tools. Let me add one thing - not everyone has the right tools in their peak condition. I used to dismiss this argument myself. Now I am ashamed that I did. (My

Re: [Elecraft] New K1 Kit

2019-06-06 Thread Walter Underwood
Heathkit has a kit to learn surface mount soldering. You build a code practice oscillator. https://shop.heathkit.com/shop/product/heathrulestm-cpo-active-rulertm-surface-mount-solder-skills-learning-kit-er-1001-40 I’m tempted to get one. That would be a nice skill to pick up. wunder K6WRU

Re: [Elecraft] New K1 Kit

2019-06-06 Thread Grant Youngman
That’s the key, of course. Most don’t have the right tools ... regardless, I think it would be a losing proposition since it would require basically re-engineering the radio .. Grant NQ5T Sent from my iPhone > > With the right tools building surface mount can be easier than thu hole. > >

Re: [Elecraft] New K1 Kit

2019-06-06 Thread Paul Maciel
Hi Grant, There certainly were a lot more than a handful that build the NorCal 2030 that had a surface parts count close if not more that the K1. With the right tools building surface mount can be easier than thu hole. ---Paul AK1P On 6/6/2019 3:18 PM, Grant Youngman wrote: There probably

Re: [Elecraft] New K1 Kit

2019-06-06 Thread Grant Youngman
There probably aren’t more than a handful of folks who could actually build an SMD kit of any size without having to send it back to Elecraft to be built or to fix the mess. Grant NQ5T K3 #2091 KX3 #8342 > On Jun 6, 2019, at 3:13 PM, Gwen Patton wrote: > > I have a decent soldering station,

Re: [Elecraft] New K1 Kit

2019-06-06 Thread Gwen Patton
I have a decent soldering station, but for SMD beyond a few parts I don't use a soldering iron. I use an i-Extruder pencil (a stepper-motor powered syringe dispenser) to apply dots of solder paste to the pads, then tweezers to pick-and-place the components. If it's a small area, I use my hot air

Re: [Elecraft] New K1 Kit

2019-06-06 Thread rich hurd WC3T
Dead bug construction ROCKS. On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 2:02 PM Wayne Burdick wrote: > I miss the good ol' days, e.g. high school, when my quick 'n' dirty > transceiver projects were built by twisting component leads together. No > PCB, no chassis, nothing but raw parts. Hook up a 9 V battery and a

Re: [Elecraft] New K1 Kit

2019-06-06 Thread EricJ
Yes, pretty easy, but not true that it takes any special or expensive soldering station to do quality SMD work. In the winter months I do a lot of SMD work. I don't have a quality soldering station at all. I use solder paste from a small syringe, cheap tweezers, a $2 coffee cup warmer

Re: [Elecraft] New K1 Kit

2019-06-06 Thread Wayne Burdick
I miss the good ol' days, e.g. high school, when my quick 'n' dirty transceiver projects were built by twisting component leads together. No PCB, no chassis, nothing but raw parts. Hook up a 9 V battery and a shamelessly untuned wire antenna. Work DX. Repeat. Wayne N6KR > On Jun 6, 2019, at

Re: [Elecraft] New K1 Kit

2019-06-06 Thread Chris
I agree. SMD soldering is actually much faster than through holes because you don't have to trim leads. It is just a matter of getting used to small parts. Magnifying glasses will definitely be necessary for most of us. Reviving K1 with SMD parts will make a very trail-friendly radio. On Thu,

Re: [Elecraft] New K1 Kit

2019-06-06 Thread Fred Jensen
Not for me!  The soldering station is a WMD in my hands at this age. 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County On 6/6/2019 10:50 AM, James Doty wrote: SMD soldering is actually pretty easy. __ Elecraft mailing list

Re: [Elecraft] New K1 Kit

2019-06-06 Thread Wayne Burdick
Correct on both counts. Trust me, as the designer of both the K1 and KX1 I have a soft spot for them and would love to bring them back. But several of the critical parts became impossible to source, and a substantial redesign would be required to work around them. The good news: the KX2 is

Re: [Elecraft] New K1 Kit

2019-06-06 Thread James Doty
SMD soldering is actually pretty easy. It does take a good quality soldering station to do it though. Yes, I need magnification when soldering surface mount components. :) __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] New K1 Kit

2019-06-06 Thread rich hurd WC3T
I thought the retirement of the K1 was due to parts being rendered as unobtanium, which would more or less demand a redesign; would it not? On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 1:28 PM Dan Baker wrote: > With the K1 talk I would like to propose, a thousand of us give a 50% > deposit on a new run. I’m not

Re: [Elecraft] New K1 Kit

2019-06-06 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
Maybe it's just me, but seems the issue is the end of through-hole components? In other words, it might be possible to revive the K1, but it'd be all surface mount. 73 -- Lynn On 6/6/2019 10:28 AM, Dan Baker wrote: A K1 would provide us with a through hole kit.

Re: [Elecraft] New K1 Kit

2019-06-06 Thread Randall Wood
That would be so great! I’m in! Only 998 to go. Randy KE8JWB > On Jun 6, 2019, at 1:28 PM, Dan Baker wrote: > > With the K1 talk I would like to propose, a thousand of us give a 50% > deposit on a new run. I’m not asking for a redesign, just one with updated > parts so they can resume

[Elecraft] New K1 Kit

2019-06-06 Thread Dan Baker
With the K1 talk I would like to propose, a thousand of us give a 50% deposit on a new run. I’m not asking for a redesign, just one with updated parts so they can resume manufacturing. I don’t see a need for the KX1, we have a KX2. A K1 would provide us with a through hole kit. I would not have to