I had numerous issues with APP's and my original, factory built K3.
It had issues with severe voltage drop, heating APP connectors, low power
output and DC power outages.
I lost count how many times I was told to and did replace the APP's on my
power cable. (And it was factory made to start
Chris,
I had this issue with both of my KX3 #1082 and #2334 after using on and
off for about 12 months on DX trips from beaches where they get used
with the connectors being done/undone over and over.
The power barrel connector on the later model numbers (Elecraft will
have to advise) are
You want the retention clip:
http://www.andersonpower.com/files.php?file=02628.pdf
73, Matt VK2RQ
On 18 Feb 2015, at 4:03 pm, Rick Bates happymooseph...@gmail.com wrote:
Because the is no locking mechanism to keep them connected; far too easy to
pull apart.
Not the black/red paired
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From: K9ZTV k9...@socket.net
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Mailer elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 8:27 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Power Pole connectors
ARRL Midwest
Properly assembled APP connectors won’t come apart of their own accord. I do
like that they will separate willingly when moderate tension is applied to
them. I have used them on motorcycles in power lines for heated clothing HT’s
or GPS’s attached to my person. Having forgotten these tethers a
I hate them too - there was something similar on the lead out the back of my
FT-857 - I moved the rig an 1/8 and it disconnected - it had gone
intermittent, on the rig side. I replaced it with APP and no problem.
73 de David, M0XDF (K3 #174, P3 #108) - waiting for the 'GO' with blowtorch in
ARRL Midwest Convention, Lebanon, MIssouri, 2007 . . .
Possessing the only two K3s then in existence in the state of Missouri, N0SS
(s.n. 8) and I (s.n. 21) were asked to set-up a booth displaying one torn apart
and one on the air. Not an hour had elapsed before yours truly got his feet
It should be possible, with just a bit of practice, and maybe with a little
initial help from a sighted person, for a visually impaired person with good
manual dexterity to effect a good crimp with a proper crimping tool. The
terminals can be easily indexed by feel. A few short, identifiable
: [Elecraft] Power Pole connectors
A proper crimp is far superior to solder! (Let the flames begin.) The
solder will wick up your stranded wire and make a solid conductor of your
nice flexible wire. The additional solid length will impart even more
torque on the APP connection. Perhaps more
of 10 pairs at the local ham
shop. XT60 at the local hobby store are more than twice that. but
then again he sells APP for 4.99 a pair.XT 60s are much cheeper if
ordered online like Hobby King
David Moes
VE3DVY
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Power Pole connectors
Now that is deserving of an Amen!
73 de Dennis KD7CAC
Scottsdale, AZ
On Feb 18, 2015, at 6:27 AM, K9ZTV k9...@socket.net wrote:
ARRL Midwest Convention, Lebanon, MIssouri, 2007 . . .
Possessing the only two K3s then in existence in the state of Missouri, N0SS
(s.n. 8) and I (s.n. 21)
I have had zero problems with Powerpoles, and would think it a bad thing
to not have them on the radio.
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Thanks and 73's,
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I use APP's with great success. Yes, I wish they were a little more firm
in their locking, but I do like the speed of crimping.
However, as I move forward, I will be switching to Dean's connectors or
XT60's only for the fact they don't require an expensive crimper and they
are very inexpensive.
We've weighed the pros and cons of APP connectors on multiple occasions, done
careful testing and measurements, etc., and on balance we feel that APP is the
best option. Not to cut off debate, but I'm just sayin'
I know of one gentleman who soldered wires to the RF PCB and attached a
Its a mystery to me why people don't like the APP connectors. I think they are
great. Never had a problem after I learned how to put them together. I have a
APP crimping tool that makes it a lot easier for that part of the work. I
think the key to success is making sure that the wires and
Sign on the shop wall:
Don't Need Any Problems
(I have Enough of My Own)
Solutions Are Always Welcome
73 George AI4VZ
-Original Message-
From: Dale Putnam
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 7:49 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Power Pole connectors
Someone opened
Someone opened the door.. and here comes the flood...
some for.. some staunchly against.
I would like to suggest something that would make the tirade a giant leap
more tolerable., Please:
IF you like the PP.. then make a point of saying why specifically.
IF you DO NOT like the PP.. make a
Because the is no locking mechanism to keep them connected; far too easy to
pull apart.
Not the black/red paired pieces, what they mate to. A lock like used in the
auto industry connectors would improve them immensely.
73,
Rick wa6nhc
Tiny iPhone 5 keypad, typos are inevitable
On Feb 17,
Cut off debate on this list? Hah! Impossible. ;)
I'm the one who started this iteration of the APP debate, because I am
experiencing issues with them. In my initial post on the subject, I
reported that even a very slight movement of the radio kills power.
Tonight I've carefully inspected my
Hi list,
I've noticed that almost every time I move my K3, it powers down. I
have little doubt it's the power pole connectors. I soldered them,
and I'm pretty good with a soldering iron. It seems to be plugged in
and fully seated. But why is it so fragile? I used the powerpole
connectors and
PowerPoles are not fragile, when correctly assembled/soldered. I think there is
an issue, either with your assembly to the lead or possibly with the units
mounted on the PCB in the K3 (it has been known to be in the K3).
Although I crimp all mine (well worth getting the West Mountain Radio
Chris,
This subject does come up from time to time, and the most common cause
for weak APP connectors is due to improper assembly.
Look in the end of your APP connectors. If you can see the tip of the
spring that is supposed to lock the connection blades in place, you have
not properly
You are about to ignite a firestorm with a debate about the merits of
Powerpoles. IMHO, there are only two kinds of Powerpoles, those that
have already fallen out and those that are going to fall out soon.
Make double-plus certain you have the blades snapped into the shell
properly. Then
A couple of cable ties will work wonders in making up for the short
comings of Power Poles. Use them as strain relief.
Bill W2BLC K-Line
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Chris,
Are you confident the PP''s are correctly assembled? When you inserted
them into the body did they snap or click into place? If so, it should
be impossible to pull the wire/brass connector out of the plastic body.
73
Ken - K0PP
On Feb 17, 2015 7:58 AM, Chris Hallinan
] On Behalf Of David
Ferrington, M0XDF
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 10:23 AM
To: Chris Hallinan
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Power Pole connectors
PowerPoles are not fragile, when correctly assembled/soldered. I think there
is an issue, either with your assembly to the lead
Something must be wrong with the way they are installed. I used P-P's for
years in the mobile (a 4X4 that was off-road as much as on) and NEVER had
an inadvertent disconnect.
73, Dick, W1KSZ
On 2/17/2015 12:05 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
On Tue,2/17/2015 10:41 AM, Chris Hallinan wrote:
I do recall
I've had occasional issues like yours. Usually I just replace them.
Sometimes, for reasons not readily apparent, they just do not lock
together well. Every piece of equipment I have gets power through
PowerPoles. I have 2 12-position distribution panels. Seems like the
PowerPoles could be
I would suspect that the power pole got installed incorrectly
From: Chris Hallinan challi...@gmail.com
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 9:58 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] Power Pole connectors
Hi list,
I've noticed that almost every
HAHA, I should have expected a firestorm of replies. Thanks for all
the input. I suspect that something went wrong with my installation,
and I will check it out. I did purchase the crimp tool but that was
after the experience of soldering the first set. I do recall that
they were difficult to
When I retired, I began learning how to cook so I could make dinner a
couple nights each week. There are many web sites with recipes, I use
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recipes. For a recipe with 100 ratings, most will be high and comments
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On Tue,2/17/2015 10:41 AM, Chris Hallinan wrote:
I do recall that
they were difficult to insert into the plastic shell after soldering
because some solder leaked out around the contacts, and I had to
basically clean it off.
I've assembled hundreds of Power Pole connector sets -- they're on
I would hate to think (shudder shudder) that the Power Poles were not
installed properly, as they were done by Elecraft. Move the K3 and they
WILL disconnect. So, I used a couple of cable ties to act as strain
reliefs. That ended the problem.
Everything else in my shack uses real nut and bolt
Even on my non-Elecraft rigs, I cut the connector at about 6 and
install a pair of PowerPoles between the typical, hard to remove
Molex-type connector and the rest of the power cord. I also have the
giant 100 amp PowerPoles for connecting the winch and other accessories
on my ATV. THOSE will
Hi All
I am finishing a XV-50 transverter. Down to making the power cord. How is
it supposed to plug on to the XV-50??
have 2 red and 2 black connectors and 4 crimp pins. I had no problem
mounting the PCB connectors. H ow are they supposed to plug together since
these are the sane size? I
To follow up on Don's description, if you mount them as shown in the manual,
you'll have the same orientation as needed for other transverters, the
KPA100, etc. That's why the very detailed description in figures 26, 27, 28
and 29 on pages 36 and 37 of the manual XV50, XV144, and XV222 Assembly
Fernando,
The correct position of the connectors are Red Right Tongue Down looking
back to front or looking down from above.
Saludos,
Roberto
WN7O
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