Re: [Elecraft] Re: Magnetic fields and phase noise

2005-03-22 Thread Stuart Rohre
Bob, Putting a large speaker magnet near any tuned circuit creates a large magnetic field that can affect the tuned circuit. The effect of your large speaker is common upon many radios. This even affects toroid circuits such as those in the K2. -Stuart K5KVH _

[Elecraft] Re: Magnetic fields and phase noise

2005-03-21 Thread Bob Evans
Fraser, I would also be interested in a solution to magnetic field sensitivity in my K2/100. I found that a Radio Shack Optimus speaker placed within 8 inches of my K2/100 caused distortion on both transmit and receive. I'm not technically astute enough to call this "phase noise", I just thought

Re: [Elecraft] Re: magnetic fields and phase noise?

2005-03-21 Thread Stuart Rohre
A soft steel cover might do the needed K2 shielding without the expense of Mu Metal. There are also mu metal type foils that are self adhesive which could glue to existing panels for increased magnetic field shielding. Stuart K5KVH ___ Elecraft maili

Re: [Elecraft] Re: magnetic fields and phase noise?

2005-03-20 Thread Leigh L Klotz, Jr.
ginal Message - From: "Stephen W. Kercel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Re: magnetic fields and phase noise? Mu metal is expensive, difficult to find, hard to work with if you can find it, and if subjected to mechanical shock, it

Re: [Elecraft] Re: magnetic fields and phase noise?

2005-03-20 Thread S55M
What about only changing the plates with normal materials like YaComWood's do? I dont know if there would be any improvment? Adi - Original Message - From: "Stephen W. Kercel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 10:32 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Re

Re: [Elecraft] Re: magnetic fields and phase noise?

2005-03-20 Thread Stephen W. Kercel
I've seen several mentions of mu metal in this discussion. I offer a few thoughts for what they are worth. Some years back, when I worked in the Electromagnetic Compatibility Group at Oak Ridge National Laboratory, we occasionally used mu-metal. The idea is that it directly suppresses magnetic

Re: [Elecraft] Re: magnetic fields and phase noise?

2005-03-20 Thread Earl W Cunningham
Maggie, K3XS wrote: "If I were having that problem, I'd be thinking about shielding the *source*...because it would likely affect other equipment in my shack." == Yes, indeed, the source is the HV xfmr in the amp. No other equipment in the shack is affected by it, including any other tran

Re: [Elecraft] Re: magnetic fields and phase noise?

2005-03-20 Thread Margaret Leber
Earl W Cunningham wrote: It has been suggested that mu-metal shielding might alleviate the problem. I'm considering making mu-metal bottom and side covers for my K2. If I were having that problem, I'd be thinking about shielding the *source*...because it would likely affect other equipment i

Re: [Elecraft] Re: magnetic fields and phase noise?

2005-03-20 Thread David A.Belsley
That dedicated 220 VAC line is likely not all that dedicated, unless you have absolutely separate 220 VAC service coming into your shack. Under typical home circumstances, the 110 VAC is simply on one side of the 220 VAC line. So your 110 shares a buss with the 220 VAC. LIkewise, two separat

Re: [Elecraft] Re: magnetic fields and phase noise?

2005-03-20 Thread Earl W Cunningham
Bruce, NM5B wrote: "I'm beginning to wonder if the noise source is conducted via the power lines vs. radiated." == Others suggested that it stopped because the K2/100 was in a different room on an AC circuit other than the amp. Well, the amp is on a dedicated 220 VAC line and the K2/100 i

Re: [Elecraft] Re: magnetic fields and phase noise?

2005-03-19 Thread Vic Rosenthal
N2TK, Tony wrote: My K2/100 sits on top of my TS950SDX. If I go above about 30-50W with the K2 on 80 and 160M I have to reset my router. Was using a Belkin router. Now using a Netgear wireless router. Both cutout. Don't get me started about routers and 160/80 meters! I have an inverted L wh

Re: [Elecraft] Re: magnetic fields and phase noise?

2005-03-19 Thread Earl W Cunningham
Bruce, NM5B wrote: "Here's a wild guess to throw in the mix. Since you have tried shielding and separation to eliminate or minimize the presumed radiated noise path, I'm beginning to wonder if the noise source is conducted via the power lines vs. radiated." == I have never tried shielding

Re: [Elecraft] Re: magnetic fields and phase noise?

2005-03-19 Thread Bruce Bowman
March 19, 2005 9:27 AM Subject: [Elecraft] Re: magnetic fields and phase noise? > Fraser, G4BJM wrote: > > "Interesting Earl, the non exhaustive tests I've done indicate that it > is > not due to magnetic fields." > -- > When I first told Elecraft about

Re: [Elecraft] Re: magnetic fields and phase noise?

2005-03-19 Thread Margaret Leber
N2TK, Tony wrote: My K2/100 sits on top of my TS950SDX. If I go above about 30-50W with the K2 on 80 and 160M I have to reset my router. Was using a Belkin router. Now using a Netgear wireless router. Both cutout. This doesn't happen all the time - maybe 50% of the time. Been wrapping ferrite on

RE: [Elecraft] Re: magnetic fields and phase noise?

2005-03-19 Thread N2TK, Tony
urday, March 19, 2005 9:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Re: magnetic fields and phase noise? Fraser, G4BJM wrote: "Interesting Earl, the non exhaustive tests I've done indicate that it is not due to magnetic fields."

[Elecraft] Re: magnetic fields and phase noise?

2005-03-19 Thread Earl W Cunningham
Fraser, G4BJM wrote: "Interesting Earl, the non exhaustive tests I've done indicate that it is not due to magnetic fields." -- When I first told Elecraft about this problem, they sent me the new shield for the KPA100, which didn't help. Then they sent a mod kit that had to do with reducin