[Elecraft] SSB QRP

2012-04-17 Thread ron
I realize many here are in the QRO group as evident by K3 mail (smile) but here's to hoping there are some QRP'ers in the mix. Can you share your experiences using QRP SSB. Whether they be rag chewing, contesting or working a net. Do you use a speech processor or specific mikes. Things like th

[Elecraft] SSB QRP

2012-04-18 Thread ron
many thanks to all who responded I am trying to sway my local club to do QRP this year and wasn't sure abt SSB. I know CW is a given . (I also wanted to explore SSB myself) It's difficult when everyone knows I do only CW (smile). Many thanks to all for sharing their experiences, knowl

Re: [Elecraft] SSB QRP

2012-04-17 Thread Wayne Burdick
Hi Ron, If an SSB station is strong, it's likely they'll hear you with lower power. Consider an S-9 SSB signal with low band noise, from a station running 100 W. If you're running 10 W, you'll probably be somewhere between S-7 and S-8 at their end. A good antenna at either end helps both s

Re: [Elecraft] SSB QRP

2012-04-17 Thread Jessie Oberreuter
Ron, Admittedly, I'm mostly a cw op, and really only operate during the summers, but nearly every time I've decided to scare up a contact, I've succeeded. A few weeks back, I was sitting in a friend's van waiting for him to do something in the house and had a nice 2m FM simplex contact

Re: [Elecraft] SSB QRP

2012-04-17 Thread Gary Marklund
Wayne, How high is that antenna? 73 Gary KJ7RT Sent from my iPad On Apr 17, 2012, at 13:08, Wayne Burdick wrote: > Hi Ron, > > If an SSB station is strong, it's likely they'll hear you with lower > power. Consider an S-9 SSB signal with low band noise, from a station > running 100 W. If

Re: [Elecraft] SSB QRP

2012-04-17 Thread Dale Putnam
15:43:32 -0400 > From: ronc...@verizon.net > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] SSB QRP > > > I realize many here are in the QRO group as evident by K3 mail (smile) > but here's to hoping there are some QRP'ers in the mix. > > Can you share

Re: [Elecraft] SSB QRP

2012-04-17 Thread Mel Farrer
. Mel, K6KBE --- On Tue, 4/17/12, Dale Putnam wrote: From: Dale Putnam Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SSB QRP To: ronc...@verizon.net, "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" Date: Tuesday, April 17, 2012, 3:13 PM Hey Hi Howdy Ron,   One particular phone net that might be of interest is the El

Re: [Elecraft] SSB QRP

2012-04-17 Thread Duncan Carter
forgotten was doing the same thing in Palo > Alto, CA across the bay. Now that is QRP. Dummy load to Dummy load, hi. > QRO is when you need it, now QRP is for FUN.. > > Mel, K6KBE > > --- On Tue, 4/17/12, Dale Putnam wrote: > > From: Dale Putnam > Subject: Re:

Re: [Elecraft] SSB QRP

2012-04-17 Thread Wayne Burdick
25' on one end and 15' on the other. When I get the urge to use a big antenna I visit Eric :) Wayne On Apr 17, 2012, at 1:50 PM, Gary Marklund wrote: > Wayne, > > How high is that antenna? > > 73 > Gary > KJ7RT > > Sent from my iPad > > On Apr 17, 2012, at 13:08, Wayne Burdick wrote: > >> Hi R

Re: [Elecraft] SSB QRP

2012-04-17 Thread Gary Gregory
*Wayne, Just worked NH6I on the Big Island and he was running 5W, went down to 2W and I responded with the K3 set at 1W Exxchange at these power levels was S0 and Q5 on SSB...I then went to 0.2W and was heard by Norm @ S0..but only Q4 Ah...does that qualify me for QRP status?:-)

Re: [Elecraft] SSB QRP

2012-04-17 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Just remember that in the 1950's, as the use of SSB grew rapidly, a typical SSB rig ran 10 or 20 watts PEP. That was equivalent in "talk power" to a 100 watt A.M. rig, and the bulk of the A.M. rigs of the day only ran 50 watts or so output (back the power was measured as D.C. input to the final tub

Re: [Elecraft] SSB QRP

2012-04-17 Thread Wayne Burdick
Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: > Just remember that in the 1950's, as the use of SSB grew rapidly, a > typical SSB rig ran 10 or 20 watts PEP.If you operate your 10 or > 20 watt PEP SSB rig just like it was a 100 watt rig, you'll make a > lot of QSOs just like any QRO station. This is why we r

Re: [Elecraft] SSB QRP

2012-04-17 Thread Matthew Pitts
Ron, There is also the HFPack group; http://hfpack.com They aren't all QRP Ops, but they welcome low power and portable operators. Matthew Pitts N8OHU -- On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 11:13 PM EDT Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: >Just remember that in the 1950's, as the use of SSB

Re: [Elecraft] SSB QRP

2012-04-18 Thread Bruce Chadbourne
To several who posted their interest in the K3 QRP experiences let me add several anecdotes from last night alone. I heard a South American SSB station calling QRP - I had no trouble hearing him at all here in New Hampshire - I called back at 100w repeatedly and he never heard me although he worked

Re: [Elecraft] SSB QRP

2012-04-18 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
Ron, After buying my K2/100 about ten years ago, first commercial rig owned since being first licensed in 1946, I did not start to build the KPA100 amplifier until a year had passed because I was having too much fun using the K2 barefoot both on SSB and CW. The great majority of my SSB contact

Re: [Elecraft] SSB QRP

2012-04-18 Thread Bill K9YEQ
craft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 10:53 PM To: Ron D'Eau Claire Cc: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SSB QRP Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: > Just remember that in the 1950's, as the use of SSB grew rapidly, a > typical SSB rig ra

Re: [Elecraft] SSB QRP

2012-04-18 Thread Edward R. Cole
To add to what others have stated: I ran my K3/10 at 12w on SSB (I know it was stated as 16w but I have revised my measurements with more accurate readings - Bird43+25H element vs the 100H). I have checked into the Elecraft SSB Net on 20m often with NC copying me. I check in an 80m net locall

Re: [Elecraft] SSB QRP

2012-04-18 Thread ron
On 04/18/2012 01:42 PM, ron wrote: > many thanks to all who responded > > I am trying to sway my local club to do QRP this year and wasn't sure > abt SSB. oops! I should have included the words: Field Day. __ Elecraft mailing list H

Re: [Elecraft] SSB QRP

2012-04-18 Thread Don Wilhelm
Ron, I have done Field Day QRP SSB, and I can tell you that it is quite a challenge. QRP CW can do quite nicely with both the QRP and CW multipliers, but your signal must be above the noise level at the receiving end to be heard. With typical Field Day antennas and often high noise levels cr

Re: [Elecraft] SSB QRP

2012-04-18 Thread David Gilbert
I've done LOTS of Field Day using QRP over the years, and in my opinion CW is the only way to go. The QRM on SSB is horrendous and the average Field Day operator is not going to be very good at picking you out of the mud. With CW they can use narrow filters and greatly improve their copy. B

Re: [Elecraft] SSB QRP

2012-04-18 Thread Gary D Krause
NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!!! That totally goes against the spirit of QRP operating, in my opinion. ;-) I work mostly CW QRP but, I do work SSB QRP once in a while and it's a blast. I generally start with the QRP calling frequencies. As far as antennas, I use a home brewed vertical and home brewed m

Re: [Elecraft] SSB QRP

2012-04-18 Thread EMD
Hello Ron, Here's my two cents. I have been using a K2 at 10 watts. I know that's just a bit above QRP technically but I have had some great results. I'm using a long wire antenna so far and getting ready to hang the new G5RV when I get home, but depending on conditions I have been able to reach e

Re: [Elecraft] SSB QRP

2012-04-18 Thread Milt -- N5IA
> On 04/18/2012 01:42 PM, ron wrote: > many thanks to all who responded > I am trying to sway my local club to do QRP this year and wasn't sure > abt SSB. > oops! I should have included the words: Field Day. Ron, Here are some stats from our local club, EAARS, operating QRP, solar powere

Re: [Elecraft] SSB QRP

2012-04-18 Thread Pete Smith N4ZR
Am I missing something here? If a club goes out to do FD, the objective is to have fun and to learn about the challenges and rewards of operating in the field. If a club wants to go QRP, but still wants the benefits of directive antennas, who's to say that this violates the spirit of QRP oper

Re: [Elecraft] SSB QRP

2012-04-18 Thread Gary D Krause
Pete, I was just joking hence the wink at the end of the sentence. But, to answer your question, no. Making more QSOs by putting up beams and towers would not be more fun for me. I'm just talking about me, not everyone else. I wouldn't find it as challenging therefore, not as much fun. A fe

Re: [Elecraft] SSB QRP

2012-04-18 Thread KENT TRIMBLE
Amen to all that Dave and Don have said against SSB QRP on Field Day. Several years ago the Mid-MO Amateur Radio Club decided to go all QRP, all batteries, and all wire antennas. In the QRP category, we took first in our Section; first in our Division; and 3rd in the nation. CW carried the day

Re: [Elecraft] SSB QRP

2012-04-18 Thread Matt Zilmer
Hi Ron, When I received K3 #24, it was a week before CQ WW SSB in 2007. It was a K3/10 then. With an end-fed long wire at 30 feet, I worked 17 new countries on 15 and 20m. No special equipment here at that time. Just the K3 running 10W and less. With an old Shure desk mic. No special tech