Re: [Elecraft] TCXO - 0.5PPM

2010-12-29 Thread Julian, G4ILO
Rather than try to listen for zero beat I offset the dial reading by 1kHz and use a computer sound card program to measure the frequency of the audio tone. Fldigi is a good program to use for this. - Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222. * G4ILO's Shack - http://www.g4ilo.com * KComm - http://www.

Re: [Elecraft] TCXO - 0.5PPM

2010-12-29 Thread ab2tc
Hello again again, Here are links to 4 recordings made for method 2 with wwv at 10MHz with a tuning error of 0, 3, 10 and 20Hz (approximately). The sidetone and center frequency is 800Hz and the CW BW is 1100Hz. http://ab2tc.getmyip.com:8000/pictures/wwv_error_0.mp3 http://ab2tc.getmyip.com:8000

Re: [Elecraft] TCXO - 0.5PPM

2010-12-29 Thread ab2tc
Hello again, While I don't disagree with other people's suggestions that visual aids would be of assistance I am still a little bit at a loss (no pun intended) why your hearing loss should be a serious obstacle to detecting the zero beat on the side tone. Do you have any problem hearing your chos

Re: [Elecraft] TCXO - 0.5PPM

2010-12-29 Thread Kok Chen
On Dec 29, 2010, at 12/2910:12 AM, radioshoppe wrote: > As mentioned in my email about the best I can do with Method 2 is > about +/20 hz. Do you have an RTTY program that has a crossed-ellipse display (affectionately called "crossed bananas" by RTTY nuts)? If so, that might get you cl

Re: [Elecraft] TCXO - 0.5PPM

2010-12-29 Thread Don Wilhelm
Jim, Since you say you have hearing loss, that can prove difficult - I would suggest a "visual aid". You might try using Spectrogram (or another FFT audio spectrum analyzer) when attempting Method 2. You should see the spike from the sidetone and the spike from the WWV carrier on the display

Re: [Elecraft] TCXO - 0.5PPM

2010-12-29 Thread radioshoppe
Knut, Thank you for your suggestion. As mentioned in my email about the best I can do with Method 2 is about +/20 hz. I've tried it numerous times. When adjusting the frequency I hear a dead spot 25-40+ hz wide that has no womp-womp-womp. I take half of the width and set the frequency there.

Re: [Elecraft] TCXO - 0.5PPM

2010-12-28 Thread Jim Harris
12/28/10, Wayne Burdick wrote: > From: Wayne Burdick > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] TCXO - 0.5PPM > To: "Jim Harris" > Cc: "Elecraft Email" > Date: Tuesday, December 28, 2010, 6:24 PM > At present, "method 3" remains > unimplemented. Fortunately the TCX

Re: [Elecraft] TCXO - 0.5PPM

2010-12-28 Thread ab2tc
Hi, Using method 2 you should easily be able to get it within a couple of Hz by beating it against the CW spotting tone. The instructions in the manual are quite detailed (make sure you scroll over to the bulleted list). The wow-wow-wow warble you hear near zero beat is very easy to recognize pro

Re: [Elecraft] TCXO - 0.5PPM

2010-12-28 Thread Wayne Burdick
This is not specified, but to be safe, I'll say "after." However, I've observed very little additional drift during warmup. This is a TCXO, not an ovenized oscillator, so it would tend to correct for all temperature changes whether due to internally generated heat or ambient changes. 73, W

Re: [Elecraft] TCXO - 0.5PPM

2010-12-28 Thread Steven . Zabarnick
Wayne, is the TCXO drift spec for the period after warmup, or does it include the warmup period? Steve N9SZ >At present, "method 3" remains unimplemented. Fortunately the TCXO's >uncorrected drift is already less than +/- 0.5 PPM from 0 to 50 C. >This was the target for "method 3". >73, >Wa

Re: [Elecraft] TCXO - 0.5PPM

2010-12-28 Thread Wayne Burdick
At present, "method 3" remains unimplemented. Fortunately the TCXO's uncorrected drift is already less than +/- 0.5 PPM from 0 to 50 C. This was the target for "method 3". 73, Wayne N6KR On Dec 28, 2010, at 10:18 AM, Jim Harris wrote: > Hi Folks, > > Been kicking around putting the 0.5PPM TC

[Elecraft] TCXO - 0.5PPM

2010-12-28 Thread Jim Harris
Hi Folks, Been kicking around putting the 0.5PPM TCXO in my K3. After doing some reading a question or two arises. The instructions sheet(s) for the TCXO mentions using method 1,2 or 3 in the K3 manual to set frequency. The K3 manual does not have a method 3 as I can find. I've checked the