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ginal Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On > Behalf Of Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT > Sent: Monday, August 20, 2018 12:38 PM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] WWV/WWVH Closure > > I haven't checked the rules, but box with a low-power 60

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This thread was closed several days ago. Please, -no- more posts on this. Eric Moderator elecraft.com --- Sent from my iPhone 6S > On Aug 22, 2018, at 4:30 PM, wrote: > > The GPS system is vulnerable. The systems at NIST aren't nearly as > vulnerable. > . _

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x27;t work the first time you push the button it won't work the 20th.Just stop." -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT Sent: Monday, August 20, 2018 12:38 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] WWV/WWV

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ot;If it doesn't work the first time you push the button it won't work the 20th.Just stop." -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of John Harper Sent: Monday, August 20, 2018 10:33 AM To: Elecraft list Subject: [Elecraft] WWV/WWVH Closure

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Until someone takes out the GPS birds. It’s always good the have backup. Sent from my iPad > On Aug 20, 2018, at 8:32 AM, John Harper wrote: > > What is the justification for continued funding of WWV? Hasn't it been > obsoleted (if that's a verb) by GPS as far as being a time and freq > standa

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On 8/20/2018 8:50 AM, Walter Underwood wrote: > The clocks I know about use WWVB (VLF), not WWV or WWVH (both HF). IIRC at one time back in the dark ages of hamdom, Heathkit did sell a clock kit that used either the 5 MHz or 10 MHz signal from WWV/WWVH. One of the many that I never built. 73 de

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On 8/20/2018 8:48 AM, Dale Chayes wrote: > I think this is a significant mistake for at least two big picture > reasons: > 1) There are still many devices (notably standalone clocks and > watches) that set time from these signals, and AFAIK the "self-setting" watches and clocks use the WWVB sig

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Folks - Thread closed.  Both OT and way over postiing number limits. While an important topic, yhis is an policy discussion that is outside of Elecraft list guidelines for permitted topics. Please take it off list for further discussion in the interest of reducing list email overload for others

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Except when it isn’t … you must have an exceptional internet provider. It’s like much of the rest of the US communications infrastructure — subject to going dark at the worst possible time. Grant NQ5T K3 #2091 KX3 #8342 > and the internet is like a band that's always open -- _

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I haven't checked the rules, but box with a low-power 60 KHz transmitter and something like a Raspberry Pi to get time via NTP and transmit WWVB-like signals over 100 feet or so might be a viable product. 73 -- Lynn __ Elecraft mailing

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And they (we) love it at their own cost, not the taxpayers. John AE5X https://ae5x.blogspot.com ___ Yet there is an "installed base" of "legacy operators" who love CW. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mai

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One could make the same argument about CW: there are new modes that provide reliable communication well below the noise floor. For that matter, HF is subject to propagation, and the internet is like a band that's always open -- and the data rates are higher. Yet there is an "installed base" o

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: [Elecraft] WWV/WWVH Closure Yeah, I'd miss them, BUT, my little Elecraft hand-held XG3 sig gen is pretty handy for that too . Also, I don't believe funding for the 60kHz sig was ever at risk and THAT's what your (antique) watch uses. 73, Charlie k3ICH -Original Me

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- Original Message - From: "Charlie T" To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, August 20, 2018 4:45:13 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] WWV/WWVH Closure Yeah, I'd miss them, BUT, my little Elecraft hand-held XG3 sig gen is pretty handy for that too . Also, I don'

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mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick Sent: Monday, August 20, 2018 11:53 AM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] WWV/WWVH Closure Personal note Ever since I home-brewed my first receiver when I was 15, I've used WWV at multiple frequencies as a source of reliable on-air tes

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Personal note Ever since I home-brewed my first receiver when I was 15, I've used WWV at multiple frequencies as a source of reliable on-air test signals. My early receivers used simple direct-conversion schemes based on JFETs (remember the MPF102?). Get the details wrong, and you'd hear WW

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ginal Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of John Harper > Sent: Monday, August 20, 2018 10:33 AM > To: Elecraft list > Subject: [Elecraft] WWV/WWVH Closure > > What is the justification for continued funding

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> On Aug 20, 2018, at 11:32 , John Harper wrote: > > What is the justification for continued funding of WWV? Hasn't it been > obsoleted (if that's a verb) by GPS as far as being a time and freq > standard? Here is (are?) my two cents: I think this is a significant mistake for at least two bi

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To: 'Elecraft Reflector' Cc: 'John Harper' Subject: Re: [Elecraft] WWV/WWVH Closure Well let's start with all of those self-setting watches and wall clocks... and then the propagation information that is broadcast. Does GPS do that? Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ

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.@wjschmidt.com > > > > -Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of John Harper > Sent: Monday, August 20, 2018 10:33 AM > To: Elecraft list > Subject: [Elecraft] WWV/WWVH Closure > >

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-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of John Harper Sent: Monday, August 20, 2018 10:33 AM To: Elecraft list Subject: [Elecraft] WWV/WWVH Closure What is the justification for continued funding of WWV? Hasn't it been obsoleted (if that's a verb) by GPS as far as being a time and freq standard?

[Elecraft] WWV/WWVH Closure

What is the justification for continued funding of WWV? Hasn't it been obsoleted (if that's a verb) by GPS as far as being a time and freq standard? John AE5X https://ae5x.blogspot.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net

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Go to change.org, search for “wwv”, and there is only one petition > that matches. There is actually one petition on change.org and *two* petitions on whitehouse.gov right now. Sign *ALL* of them:

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The software in this reflector is murdering this URL. Go to change.org, search for “wwv”, and there is only one petition that matches. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Aug 19, 2018, at 4:04 PM, Gary Smith wrote: > > The reason why was the orig

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The reason why was the original post had spaces in the URL. This is the corrected URL and a tinyurl to click on. Send that to your friend. https://tinyurl.com/y9db9vs6 It is unfortunate the original link got

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me too, K4WI rkr...@johngalt.biz Sunday, August 19, 2018 5:44 PM Got this from a friend who tried to sign the petition: The confirmation email came and when I clicked on the link ,it says 404 page not found. I tried five times. maybe that is why there are so fe

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Got this from a friend who tried to sign the petition: >  The confirmation email came and when I clicked on the link ,it says > 404 page not found.  I tried five times. > > maybe that is why there are so few signatures? Ray Kruse 73  KK4WPB On 8/19/2018 2:57 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote: > More i

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Just a heads up, for people like me who don't always read everything. When you to this site and click through they will send you an e-mail verifying that you are real...you MUST respond to that e-mail for your signature to me counted. Looks like they are about 98,000 shy of the 100 K goal, b

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Pro-tip: include links in < and > -- most mail clients will not chop them in two: On 8/19/2018 12:36 PM, Gary Smith wrote: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/ maintain-funding-nist-stations-wwv-wwvh ___

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The link earlier provided was chopped up. This is the correct link: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/ maintain-funding-nist-stations-wwv-wwvh And here is a tinyurl link to the same link https://tinyurl.com/y9db9vs6 I signed it. 73, Gary KA1J _

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- From: Bob McGraw K4TAX Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2018 12:57 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] WWV/WWVH Closure More info on the topic. I view the loss of WWV, WWVH and possibly WWVB to have a major impact on world wide communication technology in many ways. If WWVB operation is

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Need to get casio, citizen and seiko to make a fussmy watch will no longer work right Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. Original message From: aj4tf Date: 2018-08-19 3:18 PM (GMT-05:00) To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] WWV/WWVH Closure Since

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Since the White House does not control appropriations, it is probably more "appropriate" to contact your representative and senators than to sign a White House petition that doesn't have much chance of getting addressed. 73, David AJ4TF (writing a letter to my Congress members) -- Sent from:

[Elecraft] WWV WWVH Closure ...more info

Here is another link as it is on the 2019 President's Budget "hit list". The link may be too long on this post so use copy/paste https://swling.com/blog/2018/08/nist-fy2019-budget-includes-request-to-shutd own-wwv-and-wwvh/ 73 Tom/K1TL... ___

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More info on the topic.  I view the loss of WWV, WWVH and possibly WWVB to have a major impact on world wide communication technology in many ways.  If WWVB operation is suspended, where would be the reference for many of our atomic clocks? 73 Bob, K4TAX The National Institute of Standards

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On 2018-08-19 01:30 PM, Tom Lizak wrote: They need 100K signatures by 15Sep2018...gonna be tough ! I was only the 1,011th person to sign. We have already lost so many international broadcasters. If we lose WWV/WWVH we lose a lot more. They provided known very accurate frequencies, time infor

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Hi, Just copy and paste the entire link. I am in and counted. WWV possibly closing! What a horrible thought! What are we going to do to check our radios' calibration? AB2TC - Knut NK7Z wrote > Mail wrapping cut off the end for you... > > 73s and thanks, > Dave (NK7Z/NNR0DC) > https://www.nk7z.

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Mail wrapping cut off the end for you... 73s and thanks, Dave (NK7Z/NNR0DC) https://www.nk7z.net ARRL Technical Specialist On 08/19/2018 11:08 AM, Clay Autery wrote: Error 404 on that link... __ Clay Autery, KY5G (318) 518-1389 On 19-Aug-18 12:30, Tom Lizak wrote: This ma

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Error 404 on that link... __ Clay Autery, KY5G (318) 518-1389 On 19-Aug-18 12:30, Tom Lizak wrote: This may not be the appropriate place for this but need to have amateur radio ops read this as many rely on the "time standards" for our radios. "NIST station WWV and sis

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- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft- > boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Tom Lizak > Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2018 12:31 > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] WWV/WWVH Closure > > This may not be the appropriate place for this but need to hav

[Elecraft] WWV/WWVH Closure

This may not be the appropriate place for this but need to have amateur radio ops read this as many rely on the "time standards" for our radios. "NIST station WWV and sister stations are among the oldest radio stations in the United States, having been in continuous operation since May 1920. Th