Re: [Elecraft] Where are the K4 reviews?

2021-03-31 Thread Bill Lederer
We ordered a refrigerator last March, and it wasn't delivered till October, so there are a lot of delays across all manufacturing. On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 1:18 PM Walter Underwood wrote: > Just not true. The Ford F-150 production is limited by parts availability. > In November, our order for a n

Re: [Elecraft] Where are the K4 reviews?

2021-03-31 Thread Alan Bloom
Best Buy has been totally out of laser printers for months. Alan N1AL On 3/31/2021 12:16 PM, Walter Underwood wrote: Just not true. The Ford F-150 production is limited by parts availability. In November, our order for a new fridge was canceled and the model is still not available. If huge i

Re: [Elecraft] Where are the K4 reviews?

2021-03-31 Thread Louandzip via Elecraft
I'm just happy we got past the TP shortage.  Lou W7HV On Wednesday, March 31, 2021, 1:14:04 PM MDT, Jim Brown wrote: On 3/31/2021 10:34 AM, j...@kk9a.com wrote: > Most products are still being manufactured and are available. Not true. We're one of the lucky ones whose home survived

Re: [Elecraft] Where are the K4 reviews?

2021-03-31 Thread Jim Brown
On 3/31/2021 10:34 AM, j...@kk9a.com wrote: Most products are still being manufactured and are available. Not true. We're one of the lucky ones whose home survived the summer's wildfires, but 3 weeks without power turned our fridge into a home for all sorts of stinking mold. The lead time on

Re: [Elecraft] Where are the K4 reviews?

2021-03-31 Thread Wes
I agree with Dave, although unlike him, I have ordered a K4, on the "no deposit" plan, so I'm not out any money.  Of course, no one is actually out of money, other than the opportunity cost, if they chose to bail out. I sympathize with Elecraft's plight, but issues have plagued everyone and one

Re: [Elecraft] Where are the K4 reviews?

2021-03-31 Thread Michael Walker
It is a good thing none of you are waiting for a new Bike. It will be 2023 before the bike industry recovers. Or build a house. Here in Canada (where we have lots of wood) lumber prices are up over 180%. 2x4" x 8ft aren't cheap. Mike va3mw __

Re: [Elecraft] Where are the K4 reviews?

2021-03-31 Thread Steve KC6ZKT
In my day job, working for a supplier of technology to a wide swath of consumer electronics manufacturers, I've observed over the past year major shifts in demand and the kinds of products people are buying. There have been surges in demand for some categories of products, and collapses in dema

Re: [Elecraft] Where are the K4 reviews?

2021-03-31 Thread Walter Underwood
Just not true. The Ford F-150 production is limited by parts availability. In November, our order for a new fridge was canceled and the model is still not available. If huge industries like autos and appliances can’t get parts sourced, little guys like Elecraft have to wait or redesign. https:/

Re: [Elecraft] Where are the K4 reviews?

2021-03-31 Thread john
The corona virus may have delayed kid's education and the K4 for a year but certainly not everything. Most products are still being manufactured and are available. John KK9A Ray wa6vab wrote: Maybe Eric should just say…….. Life with the corona virus has delayed everything by One Year, So

Re: [Elecraft] Where are the K4 reviews?

2021-03-31 Thread David Gilbert
Uhh .. I'm not the one doing the whining.  The guys who post here asking when they might actually know when they will get their K4 are the ones you should maybe be accusing.  I'm just making an outsider observation on their behalf. Besides, this isn't a marketing issue.  It's a simple commu

Re: [Elecraft] Where are the K4 reviews?

2021-03-31 Thread David Gilbert
ept or be Happy Either !* Ray WA6VAB K3 *From: *David Gilbert <mailto:ab7e...@gmail.com> *Sent: *Tuesday, March 30, 2021 2:38 PM *To: *Hal Massey <mailto:haljr.mas...@gmail.com> *Cc: *elecraft@mailman.qth.net <mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net> *Subject: *Re: [Elecraft] Where are t

Re: [Elecraft] Where are the K4 reviews?

2021-03-30 Thread Lyn Norstad
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of SteveL Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2021 6:51 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Where are the K4 reviews? I think there were also Elecraft employees who sadly lost their houses in the wild fires of last summer. That plus

Re: [Elecraft] Where are the K4 reviews?

2021-03-30 Thread SteveL
I think there were also Elecraft employees who sadly lost their houses in the wild fires of last summer. That plus pandemic plus loss of IC fab house(s) in Asia plus cancelation of most all Ham conventions last year - just a lot to endure in the last 12 months - I do not envy anyone trying to k

Re: [Elecraft] Where are the K4 reviews?

2021-03-30 Thread Eric Norris
Elecraft is unlike all other world-class mfrs of amateur radio transceivers. They are very, very small. They have to be to keep their margins big enough to compete with giants who mfr marine, aviation, and consumer electronics. They can't get away with marketing a KX4 that puts out ONE WATT more

Re: [Elecraft] Where are the K4 reviews?

2021-03-30 Thread Ray
@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Where are the K4 reviews? If you believe all of that to be true, clearly you haven't been following the posts here on the reflector. Besides, I don't find "if you can't accept being in the dark ask for your money back" to be sou

Re: [Elecraft] Where are the K4 reviews?

2021-03-30 Thread David Gilbert
If you believe all of that to be true, clearly you haven't been following the posts here on the reflector. Besides, I don't find "if you can't accept being in the dark ask for your money back" to be sound business practice.  It certainly wouldn't have been tolerated in the large business I

Re: [Elecraft] Where are the K4 reviews?

2021-03-30 Thread Hal Massey
Following the posts everyday…. > On Mar 30, 2021, at 2:57 PM, David Gilbert wrote: > > > > If you believe all of that to be true, clearly you haven't been following the > posts here on the reflector. > > Besides, I don't find "if you can't accept being in the dark ask for your > money back

Re: [Elecraft] Where are the K4 reviews?

2021-03-30 Thread Jim Brown
On 3/30/2021 1:33 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote: t is puzzling to see the lack of substantive information as other have posted.  This has not been how Wayne and Eric and Elecraft have operated in the past. We're in the midst of a pandemic. Elecraft is a small company, and they've had COVID in

Re: [Elecraft] Where are the K4 reviews?

2021-03-30 Thread stephen shearer
"Group 1, done by May" ??  Would be nice.  I am not going to hold my breath. The few (2?), "I got a UPS package", were from orders entered the first day.  Group 1 was not closed until Jan 2020?? "I Think" some of the communications from Elecraft are "hung up" with the Ferengi print from the on

Re: [Elecraft] Where are the K4 reviews?

2021-03-30 Thread Hal Massey
I am curious. Did you miss the update that was done via the remote Hamvention a few weeks ago. Group 1 clears in May?? Is your communication comment based on lack of website info? Customer’s that paid (me) should get emails every week?? I feel like I have been kept in the loop. That’s quite dif

Re: [Elecraft] Where are the K4 reviews?

2021-03-30 Thread Dr. William J. Schmidt
You might try the "K4-Elecraft" group... -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of W0MU Mike Fatchett Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2021 3:33 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Where are the K4 reviews? It is puzzling to see t

Re: [Elecraft] Where are the K4 reviews?

2021-03-30 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
It is puzzling to see the lack of substantive information as other have posted.  This has not been how Wayne and Eric and Elecraft have operated in the past. I don't believe it is asking too much for regular updates on delivery dates. Just because some are not happy with a delay does not mea

Re: [Elecraft] Where are the K4 reviews?

2021-03-30 Thread Hal Massey
David, Is the customer set you are referring to and claiming to be sympathetic too even in existence? Elecraft will refund money to anyone that asks. Wouldn’t those that can’t have their money tied up have pulled out by now? Wouldn’t those that are upset with the communications be gone by now?

Re: [Elecraft] Where are the K4 reviews?

2021-03-30 Thread David Gilbert
As the kids say, "cool story, bro." None of it changes the fact that lots of people have put out a lot of money with almost zero visibility into when they will get their product, and the K4 situation doesn't have the significantly leveraged upside that your story did.  There isn't the same ri

Re: [Elecraft] Where are the K4 reviews?

2021-03-30 Thread John Stengrevics
During the online event some weeks ago, Eric said he expected to finish Group 1 by May. 73, John WA1EAZ > On Mar 30, 2021, at 2:51 PM, Steven Kline via Elecraft > wrote: > > Paid in full here since last year and ordered June 2019, try rationalizing > that with spouse. Down to my last TT

Re: [Elecraft] Where are the K4 reviews?

2021-03-30 Thread Steven Kline via Elecraft
Paid in full here since last year and ordered June 2019, try rationalizing that with spouse. Down to my last TT Orion of two, barely keeping it on the air. Almost at point of needing to cancel and ask money be returned so I can get something else and keep operating. Seeing nothing, hearing no

Re: [Elecraft] Where are the K4 reviews?

2021-03-30 Thread Lyn Norstad
I can’t imagine how it would feel to know that I had laid out $4k two years ago, and still be waiting for fulfillment. NO, actually I can. Several years ago, an up-and-coming system integration business I had been associated with for several years (as a VAR) was going thru many of the same