Re: [Elecraft] k3 SWR readings seem generous

2009-01-12 Thread hb9ari
Just a dumb question: How do you insert the external SWR meter on the same node as the K3 internal SWR bridge? I don't find an easy solution for my own comparisons. HNY and 73 QRO, Rudolf, hb9ari ab2tc wrote: Just for the record, I have excellent agreement between an external (MFJ-949E)

Re: [Elecraft] k3 SWR readings seem generous

2009-01-12 Thread Don Wilhelm
Rudolf, There is no way to do that external to the K3. It would only be possible if one were to dig into the hardware and insert the external wattmeter into the signal path between the KPA3 and the KAT3. Unfortunately, that would require cutting traces inside the K3. 73, Don W3FPR hb9ari

Re: [Elecraft] k3 SWR readings seem generous

2009-01-12 Thread hb9ari
Don, Thank you for the explanations; the difference between external SWR and K3 SWR without ATU should be less then the differences announced ? 73, Rudolf, HB9ARI Don Wilhelm wrote: Rudolf, There is no way to do that external to the K3. It would only be possible if one were to dig into

Re: [Elecraft] k3 SWR readings seem generous

2009-01-10 Thread Jeff Kinzli N6GQ
Mike, I see the same thing. My Autek says my antenna is 2.5:1, the K3 (#476) says 1.2:1 at the same frequency (numbers mentioned were on 40M). My Palstar SWR meter pretty much agrees with the Autek. -Jeff N6GQ On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 17:47, Mike Scott m...@paxsen.com wrote: I have been working

Re: [Elecraft] k3 SWR readings seem generous

2009-01-10 Thread ab2tc
Just for the record, I have excellent agreement between an external (MFJ-949E) SWR/Wattmeter and the indication on the K3, both at excellent SWR and poor ones such as those offered by my G5RVs when the external tuner is bypassed. Poor agreement here should not be considered normal. Jeff Kinzli

Re: Re: [Elecraft] k3 SWR readings seem generous

2009-01-03 Thread N8LP
Brett, this is something I would love to see in all rigs and amplifiers, but then I'm prejudiced;-) 73, Larry N8LP One thing I think would be really slick is to see a path in which someone can insert a watt meter such as the LP-100 into the chain between the output and the antenna tuner where

Re: [Elecraft] k3 SWR readings seem generous

2009-01-02 Thread Stewart Baker
This thread came at the right time. I have just finished re-calibrating my LP-100A. I did this after having used the unit for 6 months, however the calibration was very close to the original settings. Then I thought that I would check my K3 SWR indication. The results are not as good as I would

RE: [Elecraft] k3 SWR readings seem generous

2009-01-02 Thread Mike Scott
However, the Gap SWR is around the 2.3:1 range when the K3 (or PW-1 tuner) reads about 1.5:1 or less. I then realized it was showing me the real SWR, not the tuned SWR. I think I am correct in this assumption. John, your understanding is correct unless the K3 ATU is in bypass mode which it was

RE: [Elecraft] k3 SWR readings seem generous

2009-01-02 Thread Michael E Fox (N6MEF)
To: 'Michael E Fox (N6MEF)'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] k3 SWR readings seem generous Isn't the LP100A giving you the actual SWR, not the tuned SWR since the LP100A is getting current samples from the feedline to the antenna and is independent of the K3 tuner. The K3 tuner

[Elecraft] k3 SWR readings seem generous

2009-01-01 Thread Mike Scott
I have been working on antennas today and have a puzzle. I am finding that the K3 SWR indications are unbelievable generous. With my 40M inverted V fed with RG8X (50 ohm) coax I see that the K3 seems generous in the SWR indication on tune with ATU bypassed. I have noticed a slight change in SWR

Re: [Elecraft] k3 SWR readings seem generous

2009-01-01 Thread Don Wilhelm
Mike, I have to accept your observations, but must ask - have you calibrated the K3 wattmeter? Neglecting to do that can cause the SWR readings to be off by a fair amount. That being said, consider the purpose of the K3 having an SWR indication at all - that is to determine the minimum SWR

RE: [Elecraft] k3 SWR readings seem generous

2009-01-01 Thread Michael E Fox (N6MEF)
I noticed the same thing. My factory-assembled K3 is reading 1.0 SWR while my LP-100A and tuner both agree on about 1.4-1.5. Michael - N6MEF -- Message: 45 Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 17:47:04 -0800 From: Mike Scott m...@paxsen.com Subject: [Elecraft] k3 SWR readings

RE: [Elecraft] k3 SWR readings seem generous

2009-01-01 Thread John Gaynard
] On Behalf Of Michael E Fox (N6MEF) Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 1:18 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] k3 SWR readings seem generous I noticed the same thing. My factory-assembled K3 is reading 1.0 SWR while my LP-100A and tuner both agree on about 1.4-1.5. Michael - N6MEF

RE: [Elecraft] k3 SWR readings seem generous

2009-01-01 Thread John Gaynard
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Michael E Fox (N6MEF) Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 1:18 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] k3 SWR readings seem generous I noticed the same thing. My factory-assembled K3 is reading 1.0 SWR while my LP-100A and tuner both agree