RE: [Elecraft] APP roll pins

2008-04-07 Thread Jim
nt: Sunday, April 06, 2008 9:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tom Hammond Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] APP roll pins APPs are bad design, bad technology, just bad why? 1 the crimp or solder or buy a special tool or what facts as noted often here. 2. need glue ofte

RE: [Elecraft] APP roll pins

2008-04-06 Thread Charles Harpole
and abandon the false start they represent? Charles Harpole [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:15:03 -0400 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] APP roll pins > CC: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > Tom and all, >

Re: [Elecraft] APP roll pins [END of Thread]

2008-04-06 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ Elecraft
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Re: [Elecraft] APP roll pins

2008-04-06 Thread Don Brown
06, 2008 1:03 PM To: "K3KO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Subject: Re: [Elecraft] APP roll pins K3KO's response is the best I have read in this thread so far and I agree 100%. I have been using and putting up with these APP's for at least 6-7 years and have learned that I alwa

Re: [Elecraft] APP roll pins

2008-04-06 Thread John [K7SVV]
ld be any day now. John[K7SVV] P.S. I use the roll pin. - Original Message - From: "K3KO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 7:12 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] APP roll pins This is crazy. Who would ever want to use a connector with all the "p

Re: [Elecraft] APP roll pins

2008-04-06 Thread John Reiser
AIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 10:32 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] APP roll pins At 08:12 AM 06/04/08, you wrote: This is crazy. Either the connector is no darn good or the problems reported here are greatly exaggerated. Well said! It's fun to follow the threads

RE: [Elecraft] APP roll pins

2008-04-06 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
FWIW, I've been using APPs for years with no problems at all. I solder the wires and have not had a single breakage. As I mentioned earlier, millions of connectors do that with no problem. The "trick" is to avoid forcing the stiff portion of the wire to bend constantly or to force one small area

Re: [Elecraft] APP roll pins

2008-04-06 Thread George Victor
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Re: [Elecraft] APP roll pins

2008-04-06 Thread Tom Hammond
Actually, the 'basic' APP connectors have few 'problems'... they slip together nicely and if properly assembled, require little additional 'help'. The discussion had to do with the perceived need to 'help' them by inserting pins to keep them from coming apart, which is rare anyway. I virtually N

Re: [Elecraft] APP roll pins

2008-04-06 Thread John
At 08:12 AM 06/04/08, you wrote: This is crazy. Either the connector is no darn good or the problems reported here are greatly exaggerated. Well said! It's fun to follow the threads and see just how far they go though. I think G4ILO put an end to the 7.5 lb knob thread with his comment too

Re: [Elecraft] APP roll pins

2008-04-06 Thread K3KO
This is crazy. Who would ever want to use a connector with all the "problems" and care and feeding of the APP's? Something has gotten lost here. Imagine if you had to go endure all of this for the AC plugs on all your household appliances? Either the connector is no darn good or the problem

RE: [Elecraft] APP roll pins

2008-04-06 Thread Jim Sheldon
Just a comment on the APP connectors and roll pins. There are many ways to solve the problem, some good and some not so good. Everyone that's used them long enough will probably have tackled the disappearing roll pin dilemma at one time or another. Glueing them tends not to work because most gl

Re: [Elecraft] APP roll pins

2008-04-06 Thread Don Wilhelm
Tom and all, That is quite contrary to my experience. The APP housings that I have purchased (from both PowerWerks and West Mountain Radio) have dovetail matings that need quite a bit of force to slide completely together, and I lock them with a drop of SuperGlue. I never had one come apart,

Re: [Elecraft] APP roll pins

2008-04-06 Thread Tom Hammond
I must admit that I have had less than stellar results with the roll pins myself... having a number fall out over time. Fortunately none fell into 'sensitive' electronic areas... they just fall out... I didn't have have all that good luck with Super Glues either... not sure why, but the several t

Re: [Elecraft] APP roll pins

2008-04-05 Thread Mike B
I've purchased an APP pack or two that instead of having real roll pins (as in a flat piece of metal rolled over on itself, having a bit of spring tension in the process), just a piece of tiny metal tubing. While these slipped in place, they also tended to slip out of place. I'm guessing that