RE: [Elecraft] K2 frequency drift

2006-12-24 Thread Don Wilhelm
Adam, You cite 70 to 80 Hz drift from a cold start. That is within the K2 spec of 100 Hz drift typical from a cold start at 25C (77F). If your ambient temperature is lower, you can expect more warm-up drift. Once warmed up, the drift should be small. Even my stable HP6840 takes about 2 hours

Re: [Elecraft] K2 frequency drift

2006-12-24 Thread Kevin Schmidt
Adam, The K2 PLL Ref Upgrade manual gives some information on typical drift i.e. 5 to 20 Hz per 15 degrees F on 20 meters. It also explains how changing RA on the thermistor board can better compensate for the drift. Since your drift is consistent, I think you should be able to reduce it by

RE: [Elecraft] K2 frequency drift

2006-12-24 Thread Don Wilhelm
Kevin, The RA resistor on the thermistor board is intended to compensate for drift AFTER warmup - such as drift that might occur due to the additional heating when the KPA100 is transmitting. I do not believe it would be fruitful to attempt to compensate for the initial warmup drift that one may

RE: [Elecraft] K2 frequency drift

2006-12-24 Thread Stan Rife
: Sunday, December 24, 2006 2:26 PM To: Kevin Schmidt; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K2 frequency drift Kevin, The RA resistor on the thermistor board is intended to compensate for drift AFTER warmup - such as drift that might occur due to the additional heating when the KPA100

Re: [Elecraft] K2 frequency drift

2006-12-24 Thread Kevin Schmidt
Don, I agree about warm up drift. Perhaps I misunderstood Adam, but I thought that his problem was that even during normal usage he found objectionable drift when he operated his KPA100 for a while. I presume, perhaps wrongly, that this is most likely coming from the PLL since I thought that the

Re: [Elecraft] K2 frequency drift

2006-12-24 Thread Ian Stirling
On Sunday 24 December 2006 15:26, Don Wilhelm wrote: Kevin, The RA resistor on the thermistor board is intended to compensate for drift AFTER warmup In 1978 I bought an Eddystone EA12 from Tom, G3YTO, sadly SK in 1985. It used to keep my bedroom/shack warm - thermal stability, and the glow

Re: [Elecraft] K2 frequency drift

2006-12-24 Thread John, KI6WX
The K2 drift mentioned by Adam is about 5 ppm for 10 MHz WWV. This isn't bad for a non-TCXO oscillator. With TCXO oscillators, you can probably get down to 1 ppm, but it might cost you $50 extra. You can do even better by mounting the oscillator in an oven (OCXO), but it will cost you a

RE: [Elecraft] K2 frequency drift

2006-03-15 Thread Don Wilhelm
Dave, It is not abnormal for electronic equipment to have some warm-up drift, the K2 is no excpetion, so I would hesitate to call the situation you describe as a 'problem'. You can download the K2 Temperature-Compensated PLL Reference Upgrade document from the Elecraft website - it contains a

Re: [Elecraft] K2 frequency drift

2006-03-15 Thread John, KI6WX
Dave; I designed the K2 VFO stability mod that is now included in all K2's. Variations in the crystal stability cause each K2 to drift slightly differently. That's why I included the instructions on how to adjust the resistor values to minimize the K2's drift. I tested my K2 from 15C to 45C