Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power Supply Question

2017-03-10 Thread James Bennett
Folks - thanks for all the input. I think I may have found one of the culprits in the system - oxidation. I put everything back together the way it was to begin with so I could switch back and forth between the K3 and KX3 power displays. I have a KXPA100 behind the KX3 so the load on the MFJ

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power Supply Question

2017-03-09 Thread Jim Brown
On Thu,3/9/2017 9:29 PM, George Thornton wrote: From what I am learning the K3 needs a strong, stable power supply to be reliable. ANY ham rig needs that. :) At 100W, the K3 draws about 20A keydown. Do Ohm's Law on the wiring between the power supply and the K3. The simple answer is

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power Supply Question

2017-03-09 Thread Nr4c
Minimize all cable lengths. No more than necessary. Verify (actually look at) that SLL APP connectors are FULLY SEATED! Meaning inspect the open end for seeing only one price of metal. Check the Anderson web site for a cut away picture of the cross-section of a properly assembled APP. I use

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power Supply Question

2017-03-09 Thread Bill Frantz
I connect my voltage boost, like yours a N8XJK, between the power supply mess and the K3. (I run it in RF Enabled mode.) That results in my K3 getting the voltage it needs, and the voltage loss in all the other connections getting made up. 73 Bill AE6JV On 3/9/17 at 9:00 PM, w6...@me.com

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power Supply Question

2017-03-09 Thread George Thornton
To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power Supply Question I put my DMM leads on the front terminals of the 4545 and with key down, no change at all: 13.9V, so it appears that MFJ gets a pass on this one. To do my testing I had run the 4545 di

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power Supply Question

2017-03-09 Thread James Bennett
I put my DMM leads on the front terminals of the 4545 and with key down, no change at all: 13.9V, so it appears that MFJ gets a pass on this one. To do my testing I had run the 4545 directly to the K3 and not through the Rig Runner. However, to do that I had simply hooked the cable from the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power Supply Question

2017-03-09 Thread Bill Johnson
;elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power Supply Question Jim, Get your DMM out and make the same measurement at the power supply terminals. If you see a substantial voltage sag during transmit there, you can blame the power supply. But if the voltage stays close to constant,

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power Supply Question

2017-03-09 Thread Harry Yingst via Elecraft
I run an Astron 50 amp linear supply and a 4' cord between it and the K2 I see .6 of a volt drop on keydown at 100 watts From: James Bennett To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector Sent: Thursday, March 9, 2017 8:09 PM Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Power

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power Supply Question

2017-03-09 Thread Don Wilhelm
Jim, Get your DMM out and make the same measurement at the power supply terminals. If you see a substantial voltage sag during transmit there, you can blame the power supply. But if the voltage stays close to constant, the problem is voltage drop in the power cabling. The RigRunner will

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power Supply Question

2010-10-06 Thread David F. Reed
In response to many questions about what I chose, the answer is I bought two different supplies, with different intended uses. One was the Gamma Research unit, nice and small, but low capacity (okay on SSB and CW, too low for digital modes unless you run 10 watts or so due to its power duty

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] power supply question

2010-09-29 Thread Doug Person
The new PowerWerx SS-30DV is about as small as practical and has Power Pole connectors. Very quiet as well. Even smaller than the Samlex 1223. Doug -- K0DXV On 9/29/2010 5:17 PM, David F. Reed wrote: I am looking for a switching supply that is low RF noise, light weight, and hopefully

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] power supply question

2010-09-29 Thread William Ravenel
Dave, The Powerwerx SS-30 is 5 x 2.5 x 6.75 inches (including the connectors on the rear). It has two Powerpole connector pairs on the front and will handle 25 W continuous/30 W intermittent. It might be a little big for the side pocket of your bag based on the dimensions you provided but I

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] power supply question

2010-09-29 Thread Jim Miller
I only have the K3/10 but I use the very tiny Gamma HPS-1A jim ab3cv __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] power supply question

2010-09-29 Thread David F. Reed
Thanks all, I have two good candidates now; I appreciate the help. 73 de Dave, W5SV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:

RE: [Elecraft] K3 power supply question

2008-04-01 Thread Dick Dievendorff
that there's no flexibility at the end of the cable. 73 de Dick, K6KR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brett Howard Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 9:29 PM To: Elecraft Users Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 power supply question Whats

Re: [Elecraft] K3 power supply question

2008-04-01 Thread Thomas J. Hoedjes
Hi Franki, As of my knowledge therre is no european dealer fpr Anderson PP. I order mine in the US and do not crimp them but solder them. In this way you can use them again if you have to and i do like the solder more as crimping. There is a lot of discussion whatever is better: solder,

Re: [Elecraft] K3 power supply question

2008-04-01 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
CPC in UK http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/search2/browse.jsp?N=59+401+411Ntk=gensearch_003Ntt=CN03817Ntx=_requestid=661602 but their site is down at present. I ordered my crimp from Quicksilver radio in US http://www.qsradio.com/Powerpoles.htm they have a lot of PP stuff and give a very good

Re: [Elecraft] K3 power supply question.. PPCRIMPER

2008-04-01 Thread Bill NY9H
At 06:41 AM 4/1/2008, Phil Debbie Salas wrote: Get the PwrCrimp from West Mountain Radio.YES. -- After reading the ad copy about gooey black tape on your 12 v connections; and avoid having a hi amp 12vdc short fire. I WAS SOLD ON

RE: [Elecraft] K3 power supply question

2008-04-01 Thread Jerry Flanders
What am I missing here? Why isn't Elecraft assembling the connectors to the wire as a part of their process? Is there some reason to NOT assemble them prior to shipment? We all know how a loose connector can cause mysterious symptoms down the road. I use powerpoles here, and I think I

RE: [Elecraft] K3 power supply question

2008-04-01 Thread Darwin, Keith
-Original Message- What am I missing here? Why isn't Elecraft assembling the connectors to the wire as a part of their process? Kit vs. Factory built. Kits are, well, kits. - Keith N1AS - ___ Elecraft mailing list

Re: RE: [Elecraft] K3 power supply question

2008-04-01 Thread d.cutter
mark up David G3UNA From: Darwin, Keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/04/01 Tue PM 04:33:18 BST To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 power supply question -Original Message- What am I missing here? Why isn't Elecraft assembling the connectors to the wire

Re: [Elecraft] K3 power supply question

2008-04-01 Thread Ken Wagner K3IU
They are probably not providing assembled for the same reason that they don't provide it with the K2/100... it's a kit. It is NOT necessary to buy the expensive crimping tool. There are instructions contained in each KIT describing how the connectors can be assembled without using a crimp.

Re: [Elecraft] K3 power supply question

2008-04-01 Thread Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604
And those customers can always buy a premade cable- for example, QSRadio has a 5' cable for $7.00 with ring terminals, 10' for $10.00. 73, doug From: Tom Childers, N5GE [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 11:05:42 -0500 On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 10:55:02 -0400, you wrote: Some of

RE: [Elecraft] K3 power supply question

2008-04-01 Thread Tom Childers, N5GE
On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 10:55:02 -0400, you wrote: Some of Elecraft's customers are faced with having to spend $50 for a tool to use only one time? Why? Jerry W4UK Most kit builders have a soldering iron, so they certainly don't have to crimp the PP connectors. In your post you say, Some of

Re: RE: [Elecraft] K3 power supply question

2008-04-01 Thread Paul Christensen
problem. You probably can make a decent connection without a special tool--it's just harder to do. I would suggest that if someone does not have a precision APP crimp tool that they simply solder the pins, despite the fact that in the long run, cable flexing and vibration will eventually

Re: RE: [Elecraft] K3 power supply question

2008-04-01 Thread David Yarnes
] To: Darwin, Keith [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 8:46 AM Subject: Re: RE: [Elecraft] K3 power supply question There was once an issue as to whether special tools were required to assemble a K3. It was also described as requiring no soldering. I believe

RE: [Elecraft] K3 power supply question

2008-04-01 Thread Jerry Flanders
I said that because I observed several guys on the reflector this morning discussing buying the $50 tool. Apparently they never needed it before, but felt that it is justified for the K3 assembly. Those guys will probably never need it after the K3 assembly. I will solder mine, but I remember

RE: [Elecraft] K3 power supply question

2008-04-01 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
The tool recommended by Elecraft in the assembly instructions for their power supply cable kit is the West Mountain Radio PWRCrimp Powerpole Crimp tool with a #02 die (www.westmountainradio.com/PWRcrimp.htm). I don't have any personal experience with it. I solder my terminals onto the leads. It

RE: [Elecraft] K3 power supply question

2008-04-01 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Jerry wrote: Some of Elecraft's customers are faced with having to spend $50 for a tool to use only one time? Why? - They aren't. Soldering the APP connectors is recommended and does a superb job. Ron AC7AC ___

Re: [Elecraft] K3 power supply question

2008-04-01 Thread Dave Hachadorian
Most kit builders have a soldering iron, so they certainly don't have to crimp the PP connectors. In your post you say, Some of Elecraft's customers are faced with having to spend $50 for a tool to use only one time? Why?, although they have a choice to do it either way. Why do you say that?

Re: [Elecraft] K3 power supply question

2008-04-01 Thread David Wilburn
http://www.powerwerx.com/adapter-extension-cables/ Order cables already made up, order crimper's, order power supply cables, order APP to OEM cables. Spend the money, or solder it. Enjoy Dave Wilburn K4DGW K2/100 - S/N 5982 What do you feel when you kill a terroist? Recoil. Dave

Re: [Elecraft] K3 power supply question

2008-04-01 Thread Kenneth E. Harker
Or just buy a pre-fab power cable already if you can't handle making your own: http://www.westmountainradio.com/rigrunner/ps_cbl_6.htm (for one example). On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 10:25:50AM -0700, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: Jerry wrote: Some of Elecraft's customers are faced with having to

RE: RE: [Elecraft] K3 power supply question

2008-04-01 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 8:46 AM To: Darwin, Keith; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: RE: [Elecraft] K3 power supply question There was once an issue as to whether special tools were required to assemble a K3. It was also described

RE: [Elecraft] K3 power supply question

2008-04-01 Thread G4ILO
Jerry Flanders wrote: I said that because I observed several guys on the reflector this morning discussing buying the $50 tool. Apparently they never needed it before, but felt that it is justified for the K3 assembly. Those guys will probably never need it after the K3 assembly. I

RE: [Elecraft] K3 power supply question

2008-04-01 Thread ab2tc
I have been told throughout my professional career that a crimped joint is more reliable than a soldered one but I am skeptical. Maybe a perfectly executed crimp is theoretically better but my own experience shows otherwise. Cars, industrial installations come to mind. I have witnessed plenty of

RE: [Elecraft] K3 power supply question

2008-03-31 Thread Dick Dievendorff
The K3 kit comes with a power cable and a pair of Anderson PowerPole connectors. You may crimp them (an appropriate tool is recommended) or they may be soldered if you wish. 73 de Dick, K6KR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Franki ON5ZO

RE: [Elecraft] K3 power supply question

2008-03-31 Thread Brett Howard
Whats the recommended tool for this. I'm going to buy a tool once and I'm willing to pay the funds for a good one but would like to know a good reputable source to find the tool that will give a good price. I'd like the tool to be specifically (first use) for building my K3 so that's the main

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Power supply question

2007-11-17 Thread Bill W5WVO
Guess you stumped everybody -- no responses in the list! :-) I'm not an expert in switchers, but it seems to me that the problem might be a combination of the imperfect sine wave output from your inverter coupled with the fact that you're putting a very low load on the switcher in receive

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Power supply question

2007-11-17 Thread Don Ehrlich
My gut feel is that you may have some interaction between the regulator/feedback loops in the inverter and switcher ... or the regulator in the switcher is affected by the filtering of the inverter. I have seen cases where perfectly well behaved power supplies (when operated alone, as their

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Power supply question

2007-11-17 Thread David Cutter
: Saturday, November 17, 2007 5:29 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Power supply question My gut feel is that you may have some interaction between the regulator/feedback loops in the inverter and switcher ... or the regulator in the switcher is affected by the filtering of the inverter. I have seen