Folks - thanks for all the input. I think I may have found one of the culprits
in the system - oxidation. I put everything back together the way it was to
begin with so I could switch back and forth between the K3 and KX3 power
displays. I have a KXPA100 behind the KX3 so the load on the MFJ
On Thu,3/9/2017 9:29 PM, George Thornton wrote:
From what I am learning the K3 needs a strong, stable power supply to be
reliable.
ANY ham rig needs that. :) At 100W, the K3 draws about 20A keydown. Do
Ohm's Law on the wiring between the power supply and the K3. The simple
answer is
Minimize all cable lengths. No more than necessary.
Verify (actually look at) that SLL APP connectors are FULLY SEATED! Meaning
inspect the open end for seeing only one price of metal. Check the Anderson web
site for a cut away picture of the cross-section of a properly assembled APP.
I use
I connect my voltage boost, like yours a N8XJK, between the
power supply mess and the K3. (I run it in RF Enabled mode.)
That results in my K3 getting the voltage it needs, and the
voltage loss in all the other connections getting made up.
73 Bill AE6JV
On 3/9/17 at 9:00 PM, w6...@me.com
To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power Supply Question
I put my DMM leads on the front terminals of the 4545 and with key down, no
change at all: 13.9V, so it appears that MFJ gets a pass on this one.
To do my testing I had run the 4545 di
I put my DMM leads on the front terminals of the 4545 and with key down, no
change at all: 13.9V, so it appears that MFJ gets a pass on this one.
To do my testing I had run the 4545 directly to the K3 and not through the Rig
Runner. However, to do that I had simply hooked the cable from the
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Power Supply Question
Jim,
Get your DMM out and make the same measurement at the power supply terminals.
If you see a substantial voltage sag during transmit there, you can blame the
power supply. But if the voltage stays close to constant,
I run an Astron 50 amp linear supply and a 4' cord between it and the K2
I see .6 of a volt drop on keydown at 100 watts
From: James Bennett
To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector
Sent: Thursday, March 9, 2017 8:09 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Power
Jim,
Get your DMM out and make the same measurement at the power supply
terminals.
If you see a substantial voltage sag during transmit there, you can
blame the power supply. But if the voltage stays close to constant, the
problem is voltage drop in the power cabling.
The RigRunner will
In response to many questions about what I chose, the answer is I
bought two different supplies, with different intended uses.
One was the Gamma Research unit, nice and small, but low capacity (okay
on SSB and CW, too low for digital modes unless you run 10 watts or so
due to its power duty
The new PowerWerx SS-30DV is about as small as practical and has Power
Pole connectors. Very quiet as well. Even smaller than the Samlex 1223.
Doug -- K0DXV
On 9/29/2010 5:17 PM, David F. Reed wrote:
I am looking for a switching supply that is low RF noise, light
weight, and hopefully
Dave,
The Powerwerx SS-30 is 5 x 2.5 x 6.75 inches (including the connectors on the
rear). It has two Powerpole connector pairs on the front and will handle 25 W
continuous/30 W intermittent. It might be a little big for the side pocket of
your bag based on the dimensions you provided but I
I only have the K3/10 but I use the very tiny Gamma HPS-1A
jim ab3cv
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Thanks all, I have two good candidates now; I appreciate the help.
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that there's no flexibility at
the end of the cable.
73 de Dick, K6KR
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Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 9:29 PM
To: Elecraft Users
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 power supply question
Whats
Hi Franki,
As of my knowledge therre is no european dealer fpr
Anderson PP. I order mine in the US and do not crimp them but solder
them.
In this way you can use them again if you have to and i do like
the solder more as crimping.
There is a lot of discussion whatever is
better: solder,
CPC in UK
http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/search2/browse.jsp?N=59+401+411Ntk=gensearch_003Ntt=CN03817Ntx=_requestid=661602
but their site is down at present.
I ordered my crimp from Quicksilver radio in US
http://www.qsradio.com/Powerpoles.htm
they have a lot of PP stuff and give a very good
At 06:41 AM 4/1/2008, Phil Debbie Salas wrote:
Get the PwrCrimp from West Mountain Radio.YES.
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After reading the ad copy about gooey black tape on your 12 v connections;
and avoid having a hi amp 12vdc short fire. I WAS SOLD ON
What am I missing here? Why isn't Elecraft assembling the connectors
to the wire as a part of their process? Is there some reason to NOT
assemble them prior to shipment? We all know how a loose connector
can cause mysterious symptoms down the road.
I use powerpoles here, and I think I
-Original Message-
What am I missing here? Why isn't Elecraft assembling the connectors to
the wire as a part of their process?
Kit vs. Factory built. Kits are, well, kits.
- Keith N1AS -
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From: Darwin, Keith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2008/04/01 Tue PM 04:33:18 BST
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 power supply question
-Original Message-
What am I missing here? Why isn't Elecraft assembling the connectors to
the wire
They are probably not providing assembled for the same reason that they
don't provide it with the K2/100... it's a kit. It is NOT necessary to
buy the expensive crimping tool. There are instructions contained in
each KIT describing how the connectors can be assembled without using a
crimp.
And those customers can always buy a premade cable- for example,
QSRadio has a 5' cable for $7.00 with ring terminals, 10' for $10.00.
73, doug
From: Tom Childers, N5GE [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 11:05:42 -0500
On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 10:55:02 -0400, you wrote:
Some of
On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 10:55:02 -0400, you wrote:
Some of Elecraft's customers are faced with having to spend $50 for a
tool to use only one time? Why?
Jerry W4UK
Most kit builders have a soldering iron, so they certainly don't have to crimp
the PP connectors.
In your post you say, Some of
problem. You probably can make a decent connection without a special
tool--it's just harder to do.
I would suggest that if someone does not have a precision APP crimp tool
that they simply solder the pins, despite the fact that in the long run,
cable flexing and vibration will eventually
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To: Darwin, Keith [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 8:46 AM
Subject: Re: RE: [Elecraft] K3 power supply question
There was once an issue as to whether special tools were required to
assemble a K3. It was also described as requiring no soldering. I
believe
I said that because I observed several guys on the reflector this
morning discussing buying the $50 tool. Apparently they never needed
it before, but felt that it is justified for the K3 assembly. Those
guys will probably never need it after the K3 assembly.
I will solder mine, but I remember
The tool recommended by Elecraft in the assembly instructions for their
power supply cable kit is the West Mountain Radio PWRCrimp Powerpole Crimp
tool with a #02 die (www.westmountainradio.com/PWRcrimp.htm).
I don't have any personal experience with it. I solder my terminals onto the
leads. It
Jerry wrote:
Some of Elecraft's customers are faced with having to spend $50 for a
tool to use only one time? Why?
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They aren't. Soldering the APP connectors is recommended and does a superb
job.
Ron AC7AC
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Most kit builders have a soldering iron, so they certainly
don't have to crimp
the PP connectors.
In your post you say, Some of Elecraft's customers are
faced with having to
spend $50 for a tool to use only one time? Why?, although
they have a choice to
do it either way. Why do you say that?
http://www.powerwerx.com/adapter-extension-cables/
Order cables already made up, order crimper's, order power supply
cables, order APP to OEM cables.
Spend the money, or solder it.
Enjoy
Dave Wilburn
K4DGW
K2/100 - S/N 5982
What do you feel when you kill a terroist? Recoil.
Dave
Or just buy a pre-fab power cable already if you can't handle making your
own:
http://www.westmountainradio.com/rigrunner/ps_cbl_6.htm (for one example).
On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 10:25:50AM -0700, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
Jerry wrote:
Some of Elecraft's customers are faced with having to
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To: Darwin, Keith; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: RE: [Elecraft] K3 power supply question
There was once an issue as to whether special tools were required to
assemble a K3. It was also described
Jerry Flanders wrote:
I said that because I observed several guys on the reflector this
morning discussing buying the $50 tool. Apparently they never needed
it before, but felt that it is justified for the K3 assembly. Those
guys will probably never need it after the K3 assembly.
I
I have been told throughout my professional career that a crimped joint is
more reliable than a soldered one but I am skeptical. Maybe a perfectly
executed crimp is theoretically better but my own experience shows
otherwise. Cars, industrial installations come to mind. I have witnessed
plenty of
The K3 kit comes with a power cable and a pair of Anderson PowerPole
connectors.
You may crimp them (an appropriate tool is recommended) or they may be
soldered if you wish.
73 de Dick, K6KR
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Whats the recommended tool for this. I'm going to buy a tool once and
I'm willing to pay the funds for a good one but would like to know a
good reputable source to find the tool that will give a good price. I'd
like the tool to be specifically (first use) for building my K3 so
that's the main
Guess you stumped everybody -- no responses in the list! :-)
I'm not an expert in switchers, but it seems to me that the problem might be a
combination of the imperfect sine wave output from your inverter coupled with
the fact that you're putting a very low load on the switcher in receive
My gut feel is that you may have some interaction between the
regulator/feedback loops in the inverter and switcher ... or the regulator
in the switcher is affected by the filtering of the inverter. I have seen
cases where perfectly well behaved power supplies (when operated alone, as
their
: Saturday, November 17, 2007 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Power supply question
My gut feel is that you may have some interaction between the
regulator/feedback loops in the inverter and switcher ... or the regulator
in the switcher is affected by the filtering of the inverter. I have seen
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