Re: [Elecraft] K3 RS323 and Data Modes {was YAQ - Yet Another (K3)Question}

2007-07-13 Thread Bill Coleman
On Jul 9, 2007, at 2:59 AM, David Woolley wrote: Bill Coleman wrote: What you'd end up with for the receiver would be a Mixer and clean DDS, followed by a high-speed, wide-range A/D converter. Everything else I don't understand why you write about such things as in the future. There

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RS323 and Data Modes {was YAQ - Yet Another (K3)Question}

2007-07-13 Thread Bill Coleman
On Jul 9, 2007, at 4:44 PM, Brian Lloyd wrote: Well, you have just described the product offerings from Flex Radio. Not exactly what I had in mind -- there's way too much hardware involved. My concern over the Flex Radio SDR approach compared to Elecraft's approach in the K3 is that,

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RS323 and Data Modes {was YAQ - Yet Another (K3)Question}

2007-07-09 Thread David Woolley
Bill Coleman wrote: What you'd end up with for the receiver would be a Mixer and clean DDS, followed by a high-speed, wide-range A/D converter. Everything else I don't understand why you write about such things as in the future. There are several products on the amateur market, although I

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RS323 and Data Modes {was YAQ - Yet Another (K3)Question}

2007-07-09 Thread Julian G4ILO
On 7/9/07, Bill Coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One way of simplifying this whole process is to move the radio into the computer. This is in line with a prediction I made way back in 1995 on the CQ-Contest list -- that the radio of the future would be inside the computer. I hope not. Clearly

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RS323 and Data Modes {was YAQ - Yet Another (K3)Question}

2007-07-09 Thread Brian Lloyd
One way of simplifying this whole process is to move the radio into the computer. This is in line with a prediction I made way back in 1995 on the CQ-Contest list -- that the radio of the future would be inside the computer. In 1995, processors were just appearing that had sufficient DSP

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RS323 and Data Modes {was YAQ - Yet Another (K3)Question}

2007-07-08 Thread Bill Coleman
On Jun 19, 2007, at 9:42 AM, Brian Lloyd wrote: Not true. The K3 converts from A:D as a step in the second IF. The final filtering takes place in the K3's DSP as does the demodulation. If you then go to a soundcard you are now adding another conversion and a third IF. The K3's second IF

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RS323 and Data Modes {was YAQ - Yet Another (K3) Question}

2007-06-19 Thread Julian G4ILO
On 6/18/07, Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The capability of sending decoded data out the serial port would be most useful. Yes, but even if it *can* do this, I'd bet that it is going to be encapsulated in a K3 protocol message like the output from other CAT

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RS323 and Data Modes {was YAQ - Yet Another (K3)Question}

2007-06-19 Thread Julian G4ILO
On 6/18/07, Toby Deinhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It has always struck me as a bit silly to go from analog to digital back to analog only to return to digital, which is what you would be doing with the K3 and a sound card based solution. I think the number of conversions is the same, it's

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RS323 and Data Modes {was YAQ - Yet Another (K3)Question}

2007-06-19 Thread dj7mgq
I think the number of conversions is the same, it's just a matter of I *SERIOUSLY* doubt that Elecraft would leave the digital world once the low IF has been sampled, except for the loud speaker / head phones / line out. It wouldn't make sense, imho. vy 73 de toby

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RS323 and Data Modes {was YAQ - Yet Another (K3)Question}

2007-06-19 Thread Brian Lloyd
On Jun 19, 2007, at 1:08 AM, Julian G4ILO wrote: On 6/18/07, Toby Deinhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It has always struck me as a bit silly to go from analog to digital back to analog only to return to digital, which is what you would be doing with the K3 and a sound card based solution.

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RS323 and Data Modes {was YAQ - Yet Another (K3) Question}

2007-06-19 Thread Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604
Of course. That's a pretty simple decoding job- display this string, don't display this one. 73, doug Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 09:01:17 +0100 From: Julian G4ILO [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Disposition: inline On 6/18/07, Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RS323 and Data Modes {was YAQ - Yet Another (K3)Question}

2007-06-19 Thread ab7r
Exactly the case. With the built-in decoder you can take the K3 someplace portable without a computer and still send and receive PSK31/RTTY just as easily as having a QSO in CW. - 73, Greg - AB7R Whidbey Island WA NA-065 On Tue Jun 19 4:08 , Julian G4ILO sent: On

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RS323 and Data Modes {was YAQ - Yet Another (K3)Question}

2007-06-18 Thread Simon Brown (HB9DRV)
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why would I want to use a soundcard program if I've got a good demodulator (RTTY, PSK) in the K3? This is a good example of the cut-off between the K3's firmware and PC software. If you are going to use a PC then the logical solution is

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RS323 and Data Modes {was YAQ - Yet Another (K3)Question}

2007-06-18 Thread R. Kevin Stover
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Simon Brown (HB9DRV) wrote: - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why would I want to use a soundcard program if I've got a good demodulator (RTTY, PSK) in the K3? This is a good example of the cut-off between the K3's

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RS323 and Data Modes {was YAQ - Yet Another (K3)Question}

2007-06-18 Thread Toby Deinhardt
Dream Ideally the K3 would stream I and Q signals at 44k samples per second... /Dream It has always struck me as a bit silly to go from analog to digital back to analog only to return to digital, which is what you would be doing with the K3 and a sound card based solution. vy 73 de toby --

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RS323 and Data Modes {was YAQ - Yet Another (K3)Question}

2007-06-18 Thread Brian Lloyd
On Jun 18, 2007, at 1:51 PM, Toby Deinhardt wrote: Dream Ideally the K3 would stream I and Q signals at 44k samples per second... /Dream It has always struck me as a bit silly to go from analog to digital back to analog only to return to digital, which is what you would be doing with

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RS323 and Data Modes {was YAQ - Yet Another (K3) Question}

2007-06-18 Thread Julian G4ILO
On 6/18/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Greg, I don't think so as there is no way to ... ... soundcard program that will allow you to do this? Why would I want to use a soundcard program if I've got a good demodulator (RTTY, PSK) in the K3? I would have thought that the K3

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RS323 and Data Modes {was YAQ - Yet Another (K3) Question}

2007-06-18 Thread Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604
Given the increasing difficulty of producing a 45 baud 5 bit code, having translation both ways in the K3 would be useful, even with a computer attached. And the K3 has what I expect to be a reasonably capable CW decoder, too. In any case, if the output of the decoder can be sent out the serial

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RS323 and Data Modes {was YAQ - Yet Another (K3) Question}

2007-06-18 Thread Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604
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