Re: [EM] Clone proofing Copeland

2006-12-31 Thread Juho
How about "the smallest number of ballots on which some alternative that beats A pairwise is ranked higher than A"? Juho On Dec 31, 2006, at 3:52 , Simmons, Forest wrote: > Here's a version that is both clone proof and monotonic: > > The winner is the alternative A with the smallest number o

Re: [EM] RE : article on preferential voting

2006-12-31 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 11:45 AM 12/31/2006, Kevin Venzke wrote: >--- James Gilmour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > > > From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax > Sent: 31 December 2006 02:29 > > > > > > How can you compare your irritation with mine? > > > > Perhaps we should use range voting? Then we could express the strengths > >

[EM] Simmons cloneproof method is not cloneproof

2006-12-31 Thread Warren Smith
see http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RangeVoting/message/2934 for counterexample (plus linear program explainign how I found the counterexample) wds election-methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info

Re: [EM] Clone proofing Copeland

2006-12-31 Thread Markus Schulze
Dear Forest Simmons, you wrote (30 Dec 2006): > Here's a version that is both clone proof and monotonic: > > The winner is the alternative A with the smallest number > of ballots on which alternatives that beat A pairwise are > ranked in first place. [shared first place slots are counted > fracti

Re: [EM] Clone proofing Copeland

2006-12-31 Thread Chris Benham
Simmons, Forest wrote: Here's a version that is both clone proof and monotonic: The winner is the alternative A with the smallest number of ballots on which alternatives that beat A pairwise are ranked in first place. [shared first place slots are counted fractionally] That's it. This met

[EM] RE : article on preferential voting

2006-12-31 Thread Kevin Venzke
--- James Gilmour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > > From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax > Sent: 31 December 2006 02:29 > > > > How can you compare your irritation with mine? > > Perhaps we should use range voting? Then we could express the strengths > of our respective irritations. If you both email bal

Re: [EM] article on preferential voting

2006-12-31 Thread James Gilmour
> From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax > Sent: 31 December 2006 02:29 > > How can you compare your irritation with mine? Perhaps we should use range voting? Then we could express the strengths of our respective irritations. With Best Wishes for a good New Year and for some effective reform of voting syst