Re: [EM] Margins examples

2007-02-27 Thread Michael Ossipoff
Juho says: This kind of differences could also explain some unexplainable differences in the attitudes on strategic voting on this list :-). I reply: No, it can’ explain them if they’re unexplainable. But it might explain them if they’re _otherwise_ unexplainable. I don’t know what you

Re: [EM] Juho--about unreversed Nash equilibria

2007-02-27 Thread Juho
On Feb 27, 2007, at 11:46 , Michael Ossipoff wrote: But your smiley suggests that my examples are not what you mean by “real life example”s. Well, since margins isn’t in use anywhere, it would be difficult to find real life examples. All one can do is show what can happen. Well,

Re: [EM] Juho, unexplanable strategy attitudes

2007-02-27 Thread Juho
On Feb 27, 2007, at 17:36 , Michael Ossipoff wrote: I don’t know what you mean by “attitudes”. I gave two rather extreme attitude examples (with the intention to define the discussion space) 1) In some countries strategic voting may be taken as granted and voters may expect to be given

Re: [EM] When and how can we speak of individual utility and social utility?

2007-02-27 Thread David Cary
I commend Jobst for his essay [ http://lists.electorama.com/htdig.cgi/election-methods-electorama.com/2007-February/019584.html ] on utilities. It helps clarify some issues about utilities and the often abused notion of social utilities. Utility functions are just a way of representing

Re: [EM] When and how can we speak of individual utility and social utility?

2007-02-27 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
How to define individual utility in election methods is not necessarily a problem: the voter defines it. They system provides a means to express such utilities. Aggregating utilities, however, is obviously not such a simple thing. But we should not let this distract us from the fact that