Re: [EM] UncAAO

2007-03-03 Thread Michael Ossipoff
Forest-- Alright, but the C voters are still truncating their approval, aren’t they? They still need that strategy in order to put the choice to the A voters about accepting the Nash equilibrium or else. True, the C voters don’t have to abandon A to the degree that they’d have to in wv. So

Re: [EM] weighted voters, success rate

2007-03-03 Thread heitzig-j
Warren, by writing I direct your attention to puzzle xy you unfortunately fail to do just that. Either post what you want to say or leave it. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Warren Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: 02.03.07 19:06:25 An: Jobst Heitzig [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff:

Re: [EM] What is the ideal election method for sincere voters?

2007-03-03 Thread Michael Poole
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax writes: Okay, that rarity of rarities, an original post by me. A great deal of criticism of voting methods is based on how the methods behave with strategic voters, those who vote insincerely to gain some presumably favorable outcome. However, if we assume sincere

Re: [EM] UncAAO

2007-03-03 Thread Chris Benham
Forest W Simmons wrote: UncAAO stands for Uncovered, Approval, Approval Opposition. Here's how it works: For each candidate X, if X is uncovered, then let f(X)=X, else let f(X) be the candidate against which X has the least approval opposition, among those candidates that cover X.

Re: [EM] What is the idal method for sincere voters?

2007-03-03 Thread Michael Ossipoff
Lomax says: Okay, that rarity of rarities, an original post by me. A great deal of criticism of voting methods is based on how the methods behave with strategic voters, those who vote insincerely to gain some presumably favorable outcome I reply: Mr. Lomax is missing the point. It isn‘t

Re: [EM] UncAAO

2007-03-03 Thread Forest W Simmons
Mike, That's right. The C voters still have to use defensive strategy, but the moving the approval cutoff is sufficient. When there are only three candidates, UncAAO is the same as Smith Approval. Here's another classical example: 49 C 24 BA 27 AB Under wv, this is not a Nash Equilibrium,

[EM] UncAAO defined in plain English

2007-03-03 Thread Forest W Simmons
Chris, For the benefit of those who are just joining us, I'll start a little more basic than you would need. We need to know the meaning of cover. A candidate X covers a candidate Y if and only if X (pairwise) defeats both Y and each candidate that Y defeats. So if X covers Y, then in a

Re: [EM] What is the ideal election method for sincere voters?

2007-03-03 Thread Scott Ritchie
On Sat, 2007-03-03 at 02:06 -0500, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: And, please, explain to me why a method that will work well for selecting pizzas, with sincere votes, will not work well selecting political officers, similarly with sincere votes. If you think that. If we cannot agree on the

Re: [EM] What is the ideal election method for sincere voters?

2007-03-03 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 10:52 PM 3/3/2007, Scott Ritchie wrote: On Sat, 2007-03-03 at 02:06 -0500, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: And, please, explain to me why a method that will work well for selecting pizzas, with sincere votes, will not work well selecting political officers, similarly with sincere votes. If you