Re: [EM] Alright, next try. Range voting fix, version 2.

2005-12-10 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 08:49 PM 12/8/2005, Scott Ritchie wrote: Here's an example where it will never resolve: Voter 1: A: 100 B: 40 C: 0 Voter 2: A: 45 B: 0 C: 100 Voter 3: A: 0 B: 100 C: 60 A simple Condorcet cycle. Three voters, each with a different first place preference among three candidates. In FPTP,

Re: [EM] Alright, next try. Range voting fix, version 2.

2005-12-09 Thread rob brown
On 12/8/05, Scott Ritchie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2005-12-08 at 18:40 -0800, rob brown wrote: Well, your example is not only a Condorcet cycle, but a pure 3-way tie in condorcet terms. It is effectively: ABC BCA CABThen make it 5 ABC, 4 BCA, and 3 CAB, and watch the same

Re: [EM] Alright, next try. Range voting fix, version 2.

2005-12-09 Thread rob brown
On 12/8/05, Scott Ritchie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then make it 5 ABC, 4 BCA, and 3 CAB, and watch the same thinghappen.I looked into this a bit, and see what's going on and think it is easily fixable.My approach would be to stick with the conceptual point of view that each voter has one software

[EM] Alright, next try. Range voting fix, version 2.

2005-12-08 Thread rob brown
I'm gonna take another stab at a method that uses the UI of Range Voting, but tabulates it in a way that makes more sense. I'll admit, I actually like the fact that Range Voting collects very rich information about voter preferences, moreso than ranked ballots. (Of course this is no good if people

Re: [EM] Alright, next try. Range voting fix, version 2.

2005-12-08 Thread Scott Ritchie
On Thu, 2005-12-08 at 17:10 -0800, rob brown wrote: I am going to guess a few things: 1) that it will be extremely rare that it does not find a Nash equilibrium in fewer than 20 rounds Here's an example where it will never resolve: Voter 1: A: 100 B: 40 C: 0 Voter 2: A: 45 B: 0 C: 100

Re: [EM] Alright, next try. Range voting fix, version 2.

2005-12-08 Thread rob brown
Well, your example is not only a Condorcet cycle, but a pure 3-way tie in condorcet terms.It is effectively:ABCBCACABSo, no condorcet method could resolve it either as anything but an out-and-out tie. (right?) I would not expect this to do so either -- at least not in its simplest implementation.

Re: [EM] Alright, next try. Range voting fix, version 2.

2005-12-08 Thread Scott Ritchie
On Thu, 2005-12-08 at 18:40 -0800, rob brown wrote: Well, your example is not only a Condorcet cycle, but a pure 3-way tie in condorcet terms. It is effectively: ABC BCA CAB Then make it 5 ABC, 4 BCA, and 3 CAB, and watch the same thing happen. So, no condorcet method could resolve it