At 07:57 PM 5/25/2007, James Gilmour wrote:
>I am not familiar with US law on these points, but in the UK there
>is NO ballot identification
>information on the face of the ballot paper. That information
>(ballot paper number - and bar code
>if for machine counting) is all on the back of the b
At 12:23 AM 5/25/2007, Michael Poole wrote:
>Thus, "millions" seems easily supportable, although the question
>remains as to how to make ballots more accessible to these people.
Yes, "millions" is supportable, easily. That is no more than a few
percent of eligible voters.
However, I don't see pr
At 09:39 AM 5/24/2007, Chris Backert wrote [privately to me]:
>With all due respect I think a better education on the topic would boggle
>your mind a bit less. You are incorrect that in your assumption that a
>"simple" paper ballot would satisfy the requirements, nor would it be a
>workable solutio
> From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax> Sent: 25 May 2007 21:16
> I've heard only one substantial objection to ballot imaging, and I
> consider it spurious and misled or misleading. And that is the
> privacy of the voter. The privacy of the voter is not violated by
> ballot imaging. First of all, there is
At 07:50 PM 5/24/2007, Kathy Dopp wrote:
>On 5/24/07, James Gilmour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I am surprised you say "millions". Does this reflect the
> illiteracy level? Or some other factors > affecting ability to
> complete ballots? If so, what factors? What type of voting
> met
> From: Kathy Dopp > Sent: 25 May 2007 00:50
> On 5/24/07, James Gilmour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Chris Backert > Sent: 24 May 2007 19:39
> >
> > > For one, saying "can't we just use paper ballots"
> > > ignores the millions of American's who are unable to use paper
> > > ballots.
> >
> >
At 02:38 PM 5/24/2007, Chris Backert wrote:
>First, it was not my intent to exclude anyone from the discussion, but nor
>was it my intent to launch an intense debate on the merits of paper ballots
>and hand tabulation.
Where you sent your message (just to me) was your choice and I did
not critici
James Gilmour writes:
>> Chris Backert > Sent: 24 May 2007 19:39
>
>> For one, saying "can't we just use paper ballots"
>> ignores the millions of American's who are unable to use
>> paper ballots.
>
> I am surprised you say "millions". Does this reflect the illiteracy level?
> Or some other
On 5/24/07, James Gilmour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Chris Backert > Sent: 24 May 2007 19:39
>
> > For one, saying "can't we just use paper ballots"
> > ignores the millions of American's who are unable to use
> > paper ballots.
>
> I am surprised you say "millions". Does this reflect the illi
> Chris Backert > Sent: 24 May 2007 19:39
> For one, saying "can't we just use paper ballots"
> ignores the millions of American's who are unable to use
> paper ballots.
I am surprised you say "millions". Does this reflect the illiteracy level? Or
some other factors
affecting ability to comp
TECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 1:18 PM
To: Chris Backert
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; election-methods@electorama.com
Subject: RE: [EM] HR811 and Federal paper trail legislation
You did not, apparently, include the EM list in your recipients, nor
Ms. Dopp. I'm restoring that.
At 09:39 AM 5/24/2
You did not, apparently, include the EM list in your recipients, nor
Ms. Dopp. I'm restoring that.
At 09:39 AM 5/24/2007, Chris Backert wrote:
>With all due respect I think a better education on the topic would boggle
>your mind a bit less. You are incorrect that in your assumption that a
>"simpl
At 07:32 PM 5/22/2007, Kathy Dopp wrote:
> Unfortunately BlackBoxVoting (whose
>income is almost $1 Mill/year to continue the fight vs. election
>problems) faxed thousands of election officials and urged them to
>fight against the bill.
>
>The bill is GREAT because it:
>
>1. gets rid of all paperl
> Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 00:01:51 -0400
> From: Chris Backert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [EM] HR811 and Federal paper trail legislation
> To:
>
>
> The House will soon consider a bill introduced by Rep. Rush D. Holt (D-N.J.)
> that aims to make all ballots voter-
Just since this has been a frequent topic of the list the past few days I
thought listers might have an interest in yesterday's Washington Post
editorial against Rush Holt's HR 811 and current federal paper trail
legislation.
Ballot Boxing
Congress should proceed cautiously in requiring new vot
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