Re: [EM] HBH

2011-07-18 Thread Kevin Venzke
Hi Forest, --- En date de : Lun 18.7.11, fsimm...@pcc.edu a écrit : > > The "pecking order" is the Range order. Assume no > ties. > > I suppose that you could use the range order for the > pecking order, but as you mention below that could > lead to some strategic distortions. > > The pecking

Re: [EM] HBH

2011-07-18 Thread fsimmons
> From: Kevin Venzke > Hi Forest, > > So here's my summary using a 4-slot ballot and 3 candidates > let's say. > > The "pecking order" is the Range order. Assume no ties. I suppose that you could use the range order for the pecking order, but as you mention below that could lead to some stra

[EM] Correspondences between PR and lottery methods (was Centrist vs. non-Centrists, etc.)

2011-07-18 Thread fsimmons
- Original Message - From: Kristofer Munsterhjelm Date: Monday, July 18, 2011 1:12 pm Subject: Re: [EM] Centrist vs. non-Centrists (was A distance based method) To: fsimm...@pcc.edu Cc: election-methods@lists.electorama.com > fsimm...@pcc.edu wrote: > > > > - Original Message -

Re: [EM] New Python library implementing voting methods

2011-07-18 Thread Kevin Venzke
Hi Andrew, --- En date de : Lun 18.7.11, Andrew Myers a écrit : > Python is a bit nicer than Perl, but > if you implement your voting method > in Perl, you can plug it into CIVS. Then people can and > will start using > it for real polls. > > For the software see: > http://www.cs.cornell.edu/

Re: [EM] New Python library implementing voting methods

2011-07-18 Thread Andrew Myers
Python is a bit nicer than Perl, but if you implement your voting method in Perl, you can plug it into CIVS. Then people can and will start using it for real polls. For the software see: http://www.cs.cornell.edu/w8/~andru/civs/changelog.html Cheers, -- Andrew On 7/22/64 2:59 PM, Juho Laat

Re: [EM] HBH

2011-07-18 Thread Kevin Venzke
Hi Forest, So here's my summary using a 4-slot ballot and 3 candidates let's say. The "pecking order" is the Range order. Assume no ties. The "proximity" between two candidates is the smaller of 6 (3*2), and the product of the two candidates' ratings, summed from each ballot. When finding the

Re: [EM] Centrist vs. non-Centrists (was A distance based method)

2011-07-18 Thread Kristofer Munsterhjelm
fsimm...@pcc.edu wrote: - Original Message - From: Kristofer Munsterhjelm Date: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 2:12 pm Subject: Re: [EM] Centrist vs. non-Centrists (was A distance based method) To: fsimm...@pcc.edu Cc: Jameson Quinn , election-methods@lists.electorama.com I think you said

Re: [EM] HBH (typo correction)

2011-07-18 Thread fsimmons
- > HBH stands for Hog Belly Honey, the name of an inerrant > "nullifier" invented by a couple of R.A. Lafferty > characters. The HBH is the only known nullifier that can "posit > moral and ethical judgments, set up and > enforce categories, discern and make full philosophical > pronouncements," in

Re: [EM] New Python library implementing voting methods

2011-07-18 Thread Juho Laatu
There sure are many programmers on this list as you can guess also from the latest mails. Many of them have lots of voting related software. I don't know what languages people use, but Python certainly is a good general purpose tool. So maybe there is some interest in open libraries in this area

Re: [EM] Centrist vs. non-Centrists (was A distance based method)

2011-07-18 Thread fsimmons
- Original Message - From: Kristofer Munsterhjelm Date: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 2:12 pm Subject: Re: [EM] Centrist vs. non-Centrists (was A distance based method) To: fsimm...@pcc.edu Cc: Jameson Quinn , election-methods@lists.electorama.com > fsimm...@pcc.edu wrote: > > > Of course i

Re: [EM] A distance based method

2011-07-18 Thread fsimmons
Here's something close to what I had in mind originally: Let p be the probability distribution for a monotone, clone free, lottery like random favorite. Define the distance between rating ballots b1 and b2 as d(b1, b2) = [sum (over the alternatives X) of the product p(X)*|b1(X)-b2(X)|^n]^(1/n)

[EM] HBH

2011-07-18 Thread fsimmons
HBH stands for Hog Belly Honey, the name of an inerrant "nullifier" invented by a couple of R.A. Lafferty characters. The HBH is the only known nullifier that can "posit moral and ethical judgments, set up and enforce categories, discern and make full philosophical pronouncements," in other w

Re: [EM] A distance based method

2011-07-18 Thread Kevin Venzke
Hi Forest, --- En date de : Sam 16.7.11, fsimm...@pcc.edu a écrit : > Kevin, > > Do we agree that working from closest pairs outward solves > the Plurality problem (at the expense of > compromise and less monotonicity)? Not sure. My sim often doesn't find any Plurality failures even when they