Re: [EM] An hypothetical voting system based on Score-Voting and Majority-Judgement which I do not advocate.

2012-12-14 Thread Kristofer Munsterhjelm
On 12/14/2012 08:26 AM, ⸘Ŭalabio‽ wrote: 2012-12-13T06:53:10, Kristofer Munsterhjelm: - If the voters know that +99 and -99 will be discarded, that effectively turns +99 and -99 into 0. Thus they'd not use those values, instead knowing their "real maxima" to be +98 and -98. Yes, but

Re: [EM] Losing Votes (ERABW)

2012-12-14 Thread Richard Fobes
On 12/13/2012 11:31 AM, Kristofer Munsterhjelm wrote: On 12/13/2012 05:28 PM, Chris Benham wrote: Of the various proposed ways of weighing "defeat strengths" in Schulze, Losing Votes is the one that elects most from the "tops of the ballots". Given that we are seeking to convert supporters of F

Re: [EM] an entropy formula for the effective number of parties

2012-12-14 Thread Jameson Quinn
How would that work using the other formula? (I know I'm kinda just being lazy here, but I think other people would be interested.) Jameson 2012/12/14 Ross Hyman > example using entropy formula > two parties that split the vote equally: > 1/2 , 1/2 effective number of parties n_a=2 > One o

Re: [EM] an entropy formula for the effective number of parties

2012-12-14 Thread Ross Hyman
example using entropy formula two parties that split the vote equally: 1/2 , 1/2 effective number of parties n_a=2 One of these parties divides equally:  1/2, 1/4, 1/4  effective number of parties n_b= 2sqrt(2) now the other party also divides equally: 1/4, 1/4, 1/4, 1/4 effective number of p

Re: [EM] an entropy formula for the effective number of parties

2012-12-14 Thread Ross Hyman
Consider that there are a number of parties, with the ith party having vote fraction P_i.  Now consider that you can divide the parties into two, left parties and right parties. Call the vote fraction for the left parties P_L and the vote fraction for the right parties P_R.  Use the effective n

Re: [EM] an entropy formula for the effective number of parties

2012-12-14 Thread Jameson Quinn
Interesting. When is it different from the other formula? Jameson 2012/12/13 Ross Hyman > Here is a physics alternative to the "effective number of parties" > formulas mentioned on the Wikipedia page: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effective_number_of_parties > > Based on the concept of entropy