Re: [Election-Methods] Fwd: [election_leaders] Is IRV Hurting Minorities in Fair Vote Home Town?

2008-07-23 Thread Ralph Suter
irVote website and look it up. The FairVote contact info page and the full name and address listed on it is: http://www.fairvote.org/?page=96 FairVote 6930 Carroll Avenue, Suite 610 Takoma Park, Maryland 20912 -Ralph Suter Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:49:24 -0600 From: "Kathy Dopp"

Re: [EM] sortition/random legislature Was: Re: language/framing quibble

2008-09-11 Thread Ralph Suter
racy, I wish you would take a little time to seriously study it. A good place to start is a book by two Australian academics: "Random Selection in Politics" by Lyn Carson and Brian Martin, Praeger 1999. It's a ridiculously expensive book, but you can read it online at: http://www.qu

Re: [EM] Why I think IRV isn't a serious alternative

2008-11-26 Thread Ralph Suter
l as research and experimentation about different methods and their relative advantages and disadvantages in different kinds of situations could conceivably transform the debate about voting methods. It could result in much more effective efforts to get better methods adopted, both for public elec

Re: [Election-Methods] "Town E-meetings" for encouraging group intelligence and working toward consensus

2008-07-12 Thread Ralph Suter
Jan put it in his subject line, of "encouraging group intelligence and working toward consensus". -Ralph Suter In a message dated 7/9/08, Jan Kok wrote: Right now I feel like I've been struck with divine inspiration. Hope I don't wake up tomorrow feeling like an idio

Re: [Election-Methods] "Town E-meetings" for encouraging group intelligence and working toward consensus

2008-07-12 Thread Ralph Suter
and better methods could be adopted later, after voting administration problems that now make IRV and other complex methods (including Condorcet and Range) so problematic are resolved. -Ralph Suter Terry Bouricius wrote: Ralph and all, As you responded to Jan Koch's E-Meeting idea, I&

Re: [EM] Voting reform statement

2011-08-15 Thread Ralph Suter
On 8/15/2011 1:42 PM, Jonathan Lundell wrote: It's true that I might agree to a statement if all it said were "We believe that approval is marginally superior to plurality" (thought to the extent that I agreed, I don't think it's enough better to merit any energy in advocating it). I haven'

Re: [EM] Voting reform statement; a clearer and more inspiring, version

2011-08-23 Thread Ralph Suter
Several thoughts (not a thorough critique) after one straight-through reading: 1. Length: I agree that for the reasons Richard described, the length of his proposed declaration (less than 2300 words) is appropriate and that trying to shorten it very much would be a mistake. It's long compared

Re: [EM] Voting reform statement; a clearer and more inspiring version

2011-08-28 Thread Ralph Suter
Even if improving public elections is the statement's primary aim, that needn't be its only aim -- nor, I'm convinced, should it be. One point I've tried to make is that one of the best practical means for improving the prospects for reforming difficult-to-change public elections would be to p

Re: [EM] Publication suggestions for Declaration

2011-09-13 Thread Ralph Suter
nsive for that) in an appendix to the declaration. -Ralph Suter On 9/13/2011, Jameson Quinn wrote: The suggestion has come from Warren Smith. His steps are (Warren, correct me if I'm wrong): 1. Write a version of the declaration suitable for publication as an editorial of an academic j

Re: [EM] Election-Methods Digest, Vol 87, Issue 54

2011-09-23 Thread Ralph Suter
uld, though far from ideal to most voters, also make far less objectionable legislative decisions overall than a "stronger" but widely disliked major party winner. -Ralph Suter On 9/23/2011 7:32 PM, James Gilmour wrote: But you are completely missing the point of what I wrote. It is

[EM] Analysis Finds Incorrect Use of Ranked-Choice Voting in San Francisco

2011-12-02 Thread Ralph Suter
Analysis Finds Incorrect Use of Ranked-Choice Voting By SHANE SHIFFLETT Published: December 2, 2011 http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/02/us/analysis-finds-incorrect-use-of-ranked-choice-voting.html The results are in: San Francisco voters have trouble with ranked-choice elections. Despite a $300

Re: [EM] Analysis Finds Incorrect Use of Ranked-Choice Voting in San, Francisco

2011-12-02 Thread Ralph Suter
It's no more crap than your cranky knee-jerk comments, which are clearly based on your speculative (and therefore dubious) negative assumptions about the intent of the article's author and the people who conducted the university study. The article only briefly describes that study (which runs t

[EM] Corrections to inaccurate FairVote historical perspective

2013-03-14 Thread Ralph Suter
onations, but I'm no longer a supporter and have been dismayed by its positions on IRV and some other issues and by its failure to become a democratic membership organization. -Ralph Suter On 13 Mar 2013 1:16 PDT, Richard Fobes wrote: For the benefit of those who don't understa