Re: [EM] Absolutely new here

2013-06-28 Thread Kristofer Munsterhjelm
On 06/16/2013 06:18 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: At 02:02 AM 6/16/2013, Kristofer Munsterhjelm wrote: It would work, but the rating variant is better. In the context of ranking, Bucklin fails Condorcet, for instance. Straight Bucklin does fail Condorcet, of course, as do straight Range and

Re: [EM] Absolutely new here

2013-06-16 Thread Richard Fobes
On 6/16/2013 8:58 AM, Benjamin Grant wrote: ... I think my next task is to put a pause in the pursuit of different voting systems to focus on understanding better the various criteria (later no harm, Condorcet, etc), in much more depth, ie, what they are each about, what it means that a system fu

Re: [EM] Absolutely new here

2013-06-16 Thread Jameson Quinn
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Re: [EM] Absolutely new here

2013-06-16 Thread Benjamin Grant
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Re: [EM] Absolutely new here

2013-06-16 Thread Jameson Quinn
As one of the principal advocates for Bucklin systems on this list, I thought I'd expand a bit on Kristofer's excellent response. 2013/6/16 Kristofer Munsterhjelm > On 06/16/2013 05:26 AM, Benjamin Grant wrote: > >> [...IRV discussion...] >> > > [...good response...] > > 2)I haven’t seen a voti

Re: [EM] Absolutely new here

2013-06-16 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 02:02 AM 6/16/2013, Kristofer Munsterhjelm wrote: It would work, but the rating variant is better. In the context of ranking, Bucklin fails Condorcet, for instance. Straight Bucklin does fail Condorcet, of course, as do straight Range and Approval. However, we can tell from the fact that R

Re: [EM] Absolutely new here

2013-06-16 Thread Kristofer Munsterhjelm
On 06/16/2013 05:26 AM, Benjamin Grant wrote: I just started trying to wrap my brain around all the ins and outs about voting methods, and I wanted to check two things with my elders (on this subject): 1)As far as I can see, the reason IRV has some strange/unusual results is because it is absolu

[EM] Absolutely new here

2013-06-15 Thread Benjamin Grant
I just started trying to wrap my brain around all the ins and outs about voting methods, and I wanted to check two things with my elders (on this subject): 1) As far as I can see, the reason IRV has some strange/unusual results is because it is absolutely critical what order you eliminate