Re: [EM] C//A (was: Remember Toby)

2011-06-15 Thread Dave Ketchum
On Jun 15, 2011, at 2:05 PM, Juho Laatu wrote: On 15.6.2011, at 14.46, Kevin Venzke wrote: It's better if explaining the method's rules is enough (or close) to understand the strategy. ... No, I am (almost) saying that if you have to explain the strategy separately then that's bad. I think p

Re: [EM] C//A (was: Remember Toby)

2011-06-15 Thread Juho Laatu
On 15.6.2011, at 14.46, Kevin Venzke wrote: > It's better if explaining the method's > rules is enough (or close) to understand the strategy. ... > No, I am (almost) saying that if you have to explain the strategy > separately then that's bad. I think people will want to understand the > strategy

Re: [EM] C//A (was: Remember Toby)

2011-06-15 Thread Kevin Venzke
Hi Juho, --- En date de : Mar 14.6.11, Juho Laatu a écrit : > >>> The explanation may not be not much more > complex. It > >> is the strategy where > >>> I say MinMax is more complicated and, more > >> importantly, hard to grasp. > >> > >> I recommend sincere voting. Teaching multiple > strategi

Re: [EM] C//A (was: Remember Toby)

2011-06-14 Thread Juho Laatu
On 13.6.2011, at 5.37, Kevin Venzke wrote: > Hi Juho, > > --- En date de : Sam 11.6.11, Juho Laatu a écrit : >>> --- En date de : Ven 10.6.11, Juho Laatu >> a écrit : > I don't recommend that voters not be >> instructed on how the method is > supposed to work. > > I think

Re: [EM] C//A (was: Remember Toby)

2011-06-12 Thread Kevin Venzke
Hi Juho, --- En date de : Sam 11.6.11, Juho Laatu a écrit : > > --- En date de : Ven 10.6.11, Juho Laatu > a écrit : > >>> I don't recommend that voters not be > instructed on how > >> the method is > >>> supposed to work. > >>> > >>> I think with C//A it is easier to explain how > to find > >>

Re: [EM] C//A (was: Remember Toby)

2011-06-11 Thread Juho Laatu
On 12.6.2011, at 2.07, Kevin Venzke wrote: > Hi Juho, > > --- En date de : Ven 10.6.11, Juho Laatu a écrit : >>> I don't recommend that voters not be instructed on how >> the method is >>> supposed to work. >>> >>> I think with C//A it is easier to explain how to find >> the winner, and >>> the

Re: [EM] C//A (was: Remember Toby)

2011-06-11 Thread Kevin Venzke
Hi Juho, --- En date de : Ven 10.6.11, Juho Laatu a écrit : > > I don't recommend that voters not be instructed on how > the method is > > supposed to work. > > > > I think with C//A it is easier to explain how to find > the winner, and > > the strategy becomes obvious. No defeat strengths are >

Re: [EM] C//A (was: Remember Toby)

2011-06-11 Thread Juho Laatu
On 11.6.2011, at 6.09, Dave Ketchum wrote: > Why are we here? > > It certainly made sense to come and explore. >. We find ourselves asking the voters to do some truncating. >. Counters may have to adjust counting ballots. > > Among the many variant Condorcet methods there are various way

Re: [EM] C//A (was: Remember Toby)

2011-06-10 Thread Dave Ketchum
Why are we here? It certainly made sense to come and explore. . We find ourselves asking the voters to do some truncating. . Counters may have to adjust counting ballots. Among the many variant Condorcet methods there are various ways of handling cycles that are close to defining CWs -

[EM] C//A (was: Remember Toby)

2011-06-10 Thread Juho Laatu
On 9.6.2011, at 4.54, Kevin Venzke wrote: > Hi Juho, > > --- En date de : Mer 8.6.11, Juho Laatu a écrit : >> I was busy with other activities for a while but here are >> some comments. >> >>> >>> --- En date de : Mer 1.6.11, Juho Laatu >> a écrit : > I agree with Kevin that "elect the CW