Re: [EM] Generalized symmetric ballot completion

2011-06-09 Thread Peter Zbornik
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 10:58 PM, Juho Laatu juho.la...@gmail.com wrote: On 2.6.2011, at 19.10, Peter Zbornik wrote: Hi Juho, I am sending a two corrections: I wrote below: Rule 2 (from the generalized ballot): A winning candidate needs to be explicitly ranked on 50% of the ballots.

Re: [EM] Generalized symmetric ballot completion

2011-06-01 Thread Juho Laatu
On 31.5.2011, at 12.58, Peter Zbornik wrote: That would be, I think the smallest improvement on IRV, which could make a positive change in real life and would support centrist candidates. From the Condorcet criterion point of view, the Condorcet winner is a good, often centrist candidate. If

Re: [EM] Generalized symmetric ballot completion

2011-05-31 Thread Peter Zbornik
Juho, comments in the text below. Mostly details. Below I propose a new election method using IRV, which is closer to Condorcet than regular IRV and would have elected Montroll in Burlington. Method: If the IRV winner doesn't get 50% of the votes (including blank ballots or write-in candidates)

Re: [EM] Generalized symmetric ballot completion

2011-05-31 Thread Kristofer Munsterhjelm
Peter Zbornik wrote: Juho, summarize my argument concerning generalized ballot and generalized ballot completion and in the end of this email I suggest a new single-member Condorcet election system. Nomenclature: I think that null-candidate (marked X) is a fitting name for voting for not

Re: [EM] Generalized symmetric ballot completion

2011-05-31 Thread Peter Zbornik
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 6:06 PM, Kristofer Munsterhjelm km_el...@lavabit.com wrote: Peter Zbornik wrote: Juho, summarize my argument concerning generalized ballot and generalized ballot completion and in the end of this email I suggest a new single-member Condorcet election system.

Re: [EM] Generalized symmetric ballot completion

2011-05-30 Thread Peter Zbornik
Juho, summarize my argument concerning generalized ballot and generalized ballot completion and in the end of this email I suggest a new single-member Condorcet election system. Nomenclature: I think that null-candidate (marked X) is a fitting name for voting for not filling a seat. The other

Re: [EM] Generalized symmetric ballot completion

2011-05-30 Thread Juho Laatu
On 30.5.2011, at 18.41, Peter Zbornik wrote: Juho, summarize my argument concerning generalized ballot and generalized ballot completion and in the end of this email I suggest a new single-member Condorcet election system. Nomenclature: I think that null-candidate (marked X) is a

Re: [EM] Generalized symmetric ballot completion (was Hybrid/generalized ranked/approval ballots)

2011-05-29 Thread Peter Zbornik
Dear all, please let me just add an extension of the proposed generalized ballot completion in my email below. Adding blank votes amounts to enabling the voter express zero preferences. Leaving out candidates from the ranking allows for negative preferences. However the negative preferences are

Re: [EM] Generalized symmetric ballot completion (was Hybrid/generalized ranked/approval ballots)

2011-05-29 Thread Juho Laatu
On 29.5.2011, at 16.06, Peter Zbornik wrote: On the other hand I might rather prefer My Political Opponent to be elected than Pol Pot. Thus a ballot on the form AXMy Political OpponentPol Pot, might be a good idea to allow. I like this kind of explicit cutoffs more than implicit ones (at

[EM] Generalized symmetric ballot completion (was Hybrid/generalized ranked/approval ballots)

2011-05-28 Thread Peter Zbornik
Dear all, I apologise for some less fortunate attempts to resolve the problem of the generalized incomplete ballot. Now I think I have finally arrived at a good unified treatment the problem, generalized symmetric ballot completion, which respects the power of the blank vote to block elections