Re: [EM] Hello again -- and a new method for you!

2004-04-10 Thread Ernest Prabhakar
Hi Jobst, On Apr 10, 2004, at 7:50 PM, Jobst Heitzig wrote: The River Method – Top-Down Version: 1. DISCUSS all options at once. 2. VOTE: By pairwise comparisons, determine the widths of all possible river beds. 3. SORT the widths and process the river beds in groups of equal width, in descending

[EM] Usefol Peoxies

2004-04-10 Thread Dave Ketchum
"James Green-Armytage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> offers an interesting proposal at: http://fc.antioch.edu/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/voting_methods/proxy.htm I quote a bit, and then offer alternate thoughts: "A Proposal for Direct Democracy Based on a Non-Binding Proxy System "by James Green-Armytage "Althou

[EM] Hello again -- and a new method for you!

2004-04-10 Thread Jobst Heitzig
Hello election methods list! Some years ago I have posted a few methods on the list, so some of you might remember me vaguely... Though lacking time to actively participate in your discussions, I have still visited the archives a number of times in the meantime. Today, I would like to ask you to

Re: [EM] PR vs Single-Winner Reform

2004-04-10 Thread Forest Simmons
On Thu, 8 Apr 2004, Alex Small wrote: > Forest Simmons said: > > I think the public would find the televised Election Completion > > Convention to be very informative and interesting, a great educational > > experience, especially if Condorcet and Approval were sometimes used as > > the completion

[EM] Which method isn't "vulnerable to compromise"?

2004-04-10 Thread MIKE OSSIPOFF
Markus said: Dear John B. Hodges, the following example demonstrates that Bucklin is vulnerable to "compromising" (i.e. insincerely ranking a candidate higher to make him win). Markus, what method isn't "vulnerable to compromise"? Not BeatpathWinner (wv or margins). Not Plurality, IRV, Borda. I

Re: [EM] Weighted Mean Approval

2004-04-10 Thread Forest Simmons
On Sat, 10 Apr 2004, MIKE OSSIPOFF wrote: > > It seems to me that when I first heard of Weighted Mean Approval, I didn't > understand its rules. I"ve printed out the rules that you posted, and I'll > check out its properties. It does sound Bucklin-like. For now, let me just > say that I suggest th

RE: [EM] Conceding Victory

2004-04-10 Thread Forest Simmons
On Thu, 8 Apr 2004, Paul Kislanko wrote: > I hate to interrupt this discussion, but it is not founded on anything > useful. > > A "concession speech" is just that - a speech. Generally delivered to a > candidate's campaign workers and sometimes in front of lots of media who > report "so-and-so con

[EM] Bucklin, the Supreme Court, LNH

2004-04-10 Thread MIKE OSSIPOFF
Markus quoted the Minnesota Supreme Court: the Minnesota Supreme Court wrote: The preferential system [Bucklin] directly diminishes the right of an elector to give an effective vote for the candidate of his choice. I reply: That's odd, because if the voter votes only for his favorite, then he's

Re: [EM] To James A., about Bucklin & ERIRV

2004-04-10 Thread Markus Schulze
Hallo, the Minnesota Supreme Court wrote: > The preferential system [Bucklin] directly diminishes the right of an > elector to give an effective vote for the candidate of his choice. If > he votes for him once, his power to help him is exhausted. If he votes > for other candidates he may harm his