Re: [EM] Re: simulating an Approval campaign/election

2005-02-01 Thread Russ Paielli
Rob LeGrand honky1998-at-yahoo.com |EMlist| wrote: Russ Paielli wrote: Here's what I modeled. I have three candidates only. I randomly generate votes, with equal probabilities for all six possible preference orders. The only control variable for each vote is where the voter draws the line. In this

Re: MIKE OSSIPOFF vs The list (Re: [EM] I didn't choose to be the topic

2005-02-01 Thread Markus Schulze
Dear Craig Carey, instead of insulting those who don't agree with you, you should rather try to convince them. Example 1: 38 ABC 32 BCA 30 CBA The IFPP winner is candidate A although a majority of the voters strictly prefers candidate B and candidate C to candidate A. This

Re: [EM] Craig: I did include ballot-counting code

2005-02-01 Thread Craig Carey
MIKE has got me black-listed so, as with Mr Piaelli, I can only reply publicly and I can never cut out the step when MIKE makes messages be diluted and verbose by expressing false and untrue ideas. In this matter you were simply in the wrong: it is a dull brainless piece on how you hold a great

[EM] question about open party list PR

2005-02-01 Thread James Cooper
hi everyone, hopefully this isn't OT. Iraq's election was just conducted using closed list PR. as I understand it, there were over 7000 names across all the party lists. If they had used open list PR, would voters have to select across all 7000 names? or do countries that use open list

RE: [EM] question about open party list PR

2005-02-01 Thread jure . toplak
Countries use a wide variety of methods. Sometimes a voter has a possibility to choose one of the lists and then choose one or more candidates within the list (preferential voting). More rarely, however, voters can simultaneously vote for candidates on more than one list (so called panachage).

Re: [EM] Clock Methods

2005-02-01 Thread Forest Simmons
Gervase, Thanks for taking time to explore. And nice text graphics for the clock! It turns out that as long as you allow only strict rankings, the center of gravity of the distribution will fall in the the four hour (i.e. 120 degree) sector of the clock face centered on the Borda winner, so

[EM] (no subject)

2005-02-01 Thread Forest Simmons
. 100 . . voter utility or rating . . 0 2 Bush . Perot . . . . . . . . . Clinton 1 Perot . . . . . . . . . Bush . Clinton 2 Clinton . Perot . . . . . . . . . Bush I'm aware of the problems with interpersonal comparison of utilities, but have a hard time

[EM] reply to Dan Bishop's Condorcet Failure ...

2005-02-01 Thread Forest Simmons
From: Daniel Bishop [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [EM] Condorcet failure of Approval Voting (was Re: Dave reply) MIKE OSSIPOFF wrote: ... [Dave] continued: BUT the voter's actions, such as strategy, have to be based on what is practical for voters to learn and use (it is too easy for EM

[EM] Re: simulating an Approval campaign/election

2005-02-01 Thread Forest Simmons
From: Russ Paielli [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [EM] Re: simulating an Approval campaign/election Rob LeGrand honky1998-at-yahoo.com |EMlist| wrote: You're simulating a DSV (Declared-Strategy Voting) election with Approval. My current research is on just that topic, though I'm also interested

[EM] Re: simulating an Approval campaign/election

2005-02-01 Thread Rob LeGrand
Russ wrote: Interesting. Do you mind if I ask why you are interested in Declared-Strategy Voting as opposed to Undeclared-Strategy Voting? DSV is the invention of Lorrie Cranor and the subject of her dissertation (http://lorrie.cranor.org/dsv.html). Declared just means that a voter declares a

[EM] apology for no subject posting

2005-02-01 Thread Forest Simmons
That no subject posting was just a slip of the Return key while scrolling down the EM digest. Sorry for the bother. Forest Election-methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info