Re: [EM] Re: Condorcet package

2005-02-23 Thread Kevin Venzke
Dave, --- Dave Ketchum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > Try: > 5 a>b > 2 b>a > 6 a=b > By not counting the = we have 5:2 > With counting themwe have 8:5 > > The > and < determined that a gets 3 more votes than b - to me, strength > of a's win over b. It's called "Margins" when defeat stren

Re: [EM] Re: Condorcet package

2005-02-23 Thread Dave Ketchum
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 22:37:01 +0100 (CET) Kevin Venzke wrote: Dave, --- Dave Ketchum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : Counting votes: (wv) seems the appropriate choice. If two voters rank a pair of candidates (a=b) as equal, then (a>b) and (b>a) should each get one count. This paragraph is con

RE: [EM] Acronyms need to spelled out

2005-02-23 Thread Paul Kislanko
I have suggested this enough times that I think we should just abbreviate it to IWBUFNTHHTASOTFTTAUIEE. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > ] On Behalf Of Jim & Mary Ronback > Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 4:12 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >

[EM] Acronyms need to spelled out

2005-02-23 Thread Jim & Mary Ronback
It would be useful for newcomers to have the acronyms spelled out the first time they are used in each e-mail, e.g. , SFC, GSFC, SDSC, WDSC, FBC, CW, ERIRV, AERLO, etc., or point to reference where they are defined. Thanks, Jim Ronback Russ Paielli wrote: In any case, I must admit

Re: [EM] Re: Condorcet package

2005-02-23 Thread Kevin Venzke
Dave, --- Dave Ketchum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > >>Counting votes: > >> (wv) seems the appropriate choice. If two voters rank a pair of > >>candidates (a=b) as equal, then (a>b) and (b>a) should each get one count. This paragraph is confusing because in WV, a=b is not counted that w

Re: [EM] Omission from equilibrium criteria. Renaming.

2005-02-23 Thread Russ Paielli
Mike mentioned Nash equilibrium to me a year or two ago. I thought it was interesting, and we agreed to put some material about it on the website. For whatever reason, the material never came. Let me also mention that I had suggested to Mike way back that we provide proofs for his criteria such

Re: [EM] Approval strategy at Russ´s website

2005-02-23 Thread Russ Paielli
MIKE OSSIPOFF nkklrp-at-hotmail.com |EMlist| wrote: What Russ refers to as Weber´s Approval formula, or the Approval formula, actuallly describes the Better-Than-Expectation strategy that Forest defined a long time ago on EM. It was demonstrated on EM that, as I´ve said, by some reasonable appro

[EM] Re: Condorcet package

2005-02-23 Thread Dave Ketchum
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 08:49:11 -0800 Ted Stern wrote: On 23 Feb 2005 at 01:00 PST, Dave Ketchum wrote: Counting votes: (wv) seems the appropriate choice. If two voters rank a pair of candidates (a=b) as equal, then (a>b) and (b>a) should each get one count. The Condorcet array for each prec

[EM] Approval strategy at Russ´s website

2005-02-23 Thread MIKE OSSIPOFF
What Russ refers to as Weber´s Approval formula, or the Approval formula, actuallly describes the Better-Than-Expectation strategy that Forest defined a long time ago on EM. It was demonstrated on EM that, as I´ve said, by some reasonable approximations, Better-Than-Expectation becomes the same

[EM] Re: Comments on Approval strategy posting

2005-02-23 Thread MIKE OSSIPOFF
Before this reply, let me say that my demonstration that Approval soon arrives at the voter median, when there´s 1 issue-dimension, and probably Forest´s demonstration that Approval soon arrives at the CW, use the assumption that the voters and the candidates are the same as in the previous ele

Re: [EM] Re: Approval strategy reply

2005-02-23 Thread Russ Paielli
MIKE OSSIPOFF nkklrp-at-hotmail.com |EMlist| wrote: I´d said: Many strategies can be related to Weber's strategy of voting for candidates with positive strategic value, according to Weber's strategic value formula. But that doesn't make them the same strategy, as we've been using the term here.

[EM] Condorcet package

2005-02-23 Thread Dave Ketchum
Trying to define a complete Condorcet based election method: Single winners, such as governors, are the topic. PR voting for multiple member districts deserves its own debate. Likewise Presidential elections and the Electoral College. Random? Nothing of such tolerated, except true random reso

[EM] The Approval Formula

2005-02-23 Thread Russ Paielli
Folks, A few days I posted a message about my new webpage at http://electionmethods.org/Approval-formula.htm which explains the "strategy" for deciding which candidates to approve in an Approval election. Originally this page had no derivation of the formula because it had already been derived an