[EM] Rob reply: FBC vs CC. SFC. RV.,

2005-10-03 Thread MIKE OSSIPOFF
Rob-- I'd said: A voter will favorite-bury if, for that voter, the important goal is to keep an unacceptable candidate from winning, and if favorite-burial will increase the probability of accomplishing that. I posit that very few voters will be in that predicament. It is my experience

RE: [EM] Rob reply: FBC vs CC. SFC. RV.,

2005-10-03 Thread Paul Kislanko
I wish you guys would stop bringing politics into this. I like Nader, but frankly would never want him as President. Beatpath is as good as any method that counts from the pairwise matrix instead of ballots, but I would never want it to be used to count my ranked ballot. I was really hoping this

Re: [EM] Rob: Condorcet's Criterion vs FBC. Will people favorite-bury?

2005-10-03 Thread Abd ulRahman Lomax
At 04:30 AM 10/3/2005, Rob Lanphier wrote: 90 voters: A=7, B=6 10 voters: A=0, B=10 It has been proposed that Range votes be normalized, otherwise voters who honestly recognize that no candidate is perfect and thus does not rank at least one as a 10 will suffer vote dilution. It is possible

RE: [EM] Rob: Condorcet's Criterion vs FBC. Will people favorite-bury?

2005-10-03 Thread Paul Kislanko
If you think B should win, the point is made that Range voting won't pass. Anybody who loses 90-10 in plurality but wins in another system is just an argument against the other system. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Abd ulRahman

Re: [EM] range killing example and those ignorably-rare burying voters... are you on drugs?

2005-10-03 Thread Yves Dandurand
1- Sincerity doesn't exist in politic. As the vote itself, everything is always strategic. The concept of democracy is to give the same chances to all individuals to influence a collective decision. 2- The range main idea is to give to the voters the possibility to vote for as much candidates as

Re: [EM] Rob: Condorcet's Criterion vs FBC. Will people favorite-bury?

2005-10-03 Thread Rob Lanphier
On Mon, 2005-10-03 at 23:24 -0400, Abd ulRahman Lomax wrote: At 04:30 AM 10/3/2005, Rob Lanphier wrote: 90 voters: A=7, B=6 10 voters: A=0, B=10 It has been proposed that Range votes be normalized, otherwise voters who honestly recognize that no candidate is perfect and thus does not