Re: [EM] Re: voting machines

2004-09-02 Thread David GLAUDE
on somebody else democracy? Let's try to fix our problem first... David GLAUDE -- Don't let computer expert control election... Endorse: http://www.free-project.org/resolution/ For Belgium: http://www.poureva.be/ Election-methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info

[EM] Voting mathematics in Irish system (STV)

2004-05-08 Thread David GLAUDE
As I am monitoring the controversy about electronic voting in Ireland, I found the following wich might be of interst to you: http://www.math.nus.edu.sg/aslaksen/papers/voting.pdf Feel free to comment on vote management in that system. David GLAUDE -- Don't let computer expert control election

Re: [EM] Meeting about electoral reform of Netherlands

2004-05-08 Thread David GLAUDE
Are you sure that the Netherlands electoral system will be discuss in San Diego? The Netherlands are in Europe between Germany, Luxembourg and Belgium... San Diego is ... on the other side of earth. Please give me more information. David GLAUDE Stephane Rouillon wrote: I heard about a meeting

Re: [EM] Introductory Message

2004-05-08 Thread David GLAUDE
limit? David GLAUDE Dave Ketchum wrote: Presently we vote for the parties that comprise the Knesset separately from the PM. I should like to see voter ratings of 1 - 120 (120 corresponding to the number of seats in the Knesset) for the parties that are contending for seats in the Knesset. Thus

[EM] I found a study from Emmanuel Mangin (in French)

2004-05-07 Thread David GLAUDE
and reason why it was invented. But I did not check the quality of the work. Was this repport discovered and analysed before? David GLAUDE -- Don't let computer expert control election... Endorse: http://www.free-project.org/resolution/ For Belgium: http://www.poureva.be/ Election-methods

[EM] What is this software MIKE is working on...

2003-12-19 Thread David GLAUDE
of that piece of code are on this list... I can talk about it here too. David GLAUDE MIKE OSSIPOFF wrote: Ernie, You wrote: Can we chill? We're all Condorcet-lovers, after all. Mike probably used the term Floyd inappropriately. I reply: But that isn't anything different from what I'd

Re: [EM] Floyd algorithm? - peace

2003-12-18 Thread David GLAUDE
path wich might be something completely different. So for me all this discussion was completely confusing, and I would love some explanation... But I think I have to aggree with Markus... 0(N^3) is better than 0(N^5). David GLAUDE Election-methods mailing list - see http

Re: [EM] An urgent plea for your assistance -- this is NOT spam!]

2003-12-15 Thread David GLAUDE
. Will it be DESKEYLEN-1? DESKEYLEN? or DESKEYLEN+1? or it depend on stack usage durring interrupt (IRQ). David GLAUDE Forest Simmons wrote: On Mon, 15 Dec 2003, Dave Ketchum wrote: Further, if we frown on vendors copying each other - if we buy only open source then all can see whether

[EM] Fwd: [E-voting] STV and e-voting incompatible

2003-12-06 Thread David GLAUDE
and choice to make, it is possible that all voter have a uniquely identifiable vote. ;-) And since for fairness, the database of vote must be publish for independant review... I see no option. David GLAUDE PS: I have nothing against STV... only against e-voting. --- Weitergeleitete Nachricht

[EM] NI: making sense of the maths

2003-12-01 Thread David GLAUDE
of 1998 determined that elections to the 108 seat assembly should be by the Single Transferable Vote (STV) system. This form of proportional representation (PR) was deemed most suitable for reflecting the voting preferences of diverse constituencies choosing from a variety of parties. David GLAUDE

Re: [EM] Electronic Voting Bill of Rights?

2003-11-24 Thread David GLAUDE
everybody will know I voted for me. If the database of vote is published, then all of my other secret will be also publish. So publication of the database seems to be a big no-no. It might mean no advanced voting methods. David GLAUDE Election-methods mailing list - see http

Re: [EM] Batch of old messages

2003-11-21 Thread David GLAUDE
Rob Lanphier wrote: Obviously answer to the problem is to really moderate the list... not every 20 days. Sifting through spam in a limited webform interface is a task I really don't look forward to. So, unfortunately, it may be 20 days between times that I do this. Maybe that is the problem,

Re: [EM] Re: Kenneth Arrow theory... anyone?

2003-11-21 Thread David GLAUDE
. By not voting (assuming you would vote for any other democratic party), you somehow play the game of those party and increase their representation. David GLAUDE inline: KennethArrowBadConclusion.jpg

Re: [EM] Mail from non-members:

2003-11-21 Thread David GLAUDE
it for approval. The reason it is being held: Post by non-member to a members-only list Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive notification of the moderator's decision. David GLAUDE Election-methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info

[EM] [OT] Kenneth Arrow theory... anyone?

2003-11-20 Thread David GLAUDE
or discuss enough to say that it does not apply to the real world. Thanks for your help anyway. David GLAUDE Election-methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info

[EM] does Election-methode require e-voting?

2003-11-19 Thread David GLAUDE
talk about are practicaly possible to do by hand... but one of the argument from Australian election official to introduce e-voting is the complexity and error-prone result of hand counted Hare-Clark Electoral System (especially when result are close). Thanks for your comment. David GLAUDE

Re: [EM] Electronic Voting Bill of Rights?

2003-11-18 Thread David GLAUDE
this is only if you want e-voting... wich I don't. ;-) David GLAUDE Election-methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info

Re: [EM] Re: touch screen voting machines

2003-11-16 Thread David GLAUDE
each time. ;-) David GLAUDE Election-methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info

Re: [EM] Re: touch screen voting machines

2003-11-16 Thread David GLAUDE
are hard to find. The only nice thing about Java is that it can run inside the chip of a credit card if you have any plan to use that for election. Linux is just a kernel, at least it is Free Software. David GLAUDE Election-methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info

Re: [EM] Electronic Voting Bill of Rights?

2003-11-15 Thread David GLAUDE
. Making all the computation in triple might help but if it is processor having one bit value inverting, triple computation does not solve anything. 3) Some screen technology might be better than other... Otherwise you need to go for Tempest proof equipment that cost a lot. David GLAUDE A bit more

Re: [EM] Electronic Voting Bill of Rights?

2003-11-15 Thread David GLAUDE
outside of the voting location (or any other way to proof your vote). It must stay a matter of trust between you and your candidate... let him believe that you will vote for him. (make sure you get the money before the election, not after). David GLAUDE Election-methods mailing list

Re: [EM] untraceable receipts

2003-11-13 Thread David GLAUDE
polling place, nor are many other voters. Remember that with remote e-voting they will be able to vote from the internet without having to cross the Rio Grande. ;-) David GLAUDE Election-methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info

Re: [EM] Re: touch screen voting machines

2003-11-11 Thread David GLAUDE
is not interesting. Please when you check your number... try to find out how many will be excluded from the election process because they are affraid of computer, do not know how to touch the screen, ... where for those peaple paper and pen was OK. David GLAUDE Election-methods mailing list - see

Re: [EM] Securing electronic elections

2003-11-11 Thread David GLAUDE
list: global and stack variables are not zeroed after their useful lifetime has expired (1). David GLAUDE Election-methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info

Re: [EM] touch screen voting machines

2003-11-08 Thread David GLAUDE
the one running at election day. Also you have the bios, the OS, the hardware, ... Good luck. David GLAUDE Forest Simmons wrote: So far there are no laws that require these companies to reveal the internal workings of their machines. Election-methods mailing list - see http