Re: [EM] Arrow's axioms & an alternative to elections

2004-03-12 Thread Philippe Errembault
>>> The biggest problem I see is, who gets to define the rules for what >>> gets decided at which level? If the authority for that is too >>> dispersed, you get a logjam. If too centralized, you risk devaluing >>> certain levels which would seemingly defeat the whole purpose of the >>> arrangemen

Re: [EM] Arrow's axioms & an alternative to elections

2004-03-12 Thread Ernest Prabhakar
On Mar 10, 2004, at 4:41 PM, Philippe Errembault wrote: The biggest problem I see is, who gets to define the rules for what gets decided at which level? If the authority for that is too dispersed, you get a logjam. If too centralized, you risk devaluing certain levels which would seemingly defeat

Re: [EM] Arrow's axioms & an alternative to elections

2004-03-10 Thread Philippe Errembault
> > h... Now that I re-read the text, I realise that your problem > > about decision > > taking and collapsing alternatives, probably came from here: > Actually, it was along the lines of 'forcing linear' decisions, by > analogy with the way that quantum states evolve smoothly over time >

Re: [EM] Arrow's axioms & an alternative to elections

2004-03-10 Thread Ernest Prabhakar
Hi Philippe, On Mar 9, 2004, at 6:18 PM, Philippe Errembault wrote: h... Now that I re-read the text, I realise that your problem about decision taking and collapsing alternatives, probably came from here: Actually, it was along the lines of 'forcing linear' decisions, by analogy with the wa

Re: [EM] Arrow's axioms & an alternative to elections

2004-03-09 Thread Philippe Errembault
I realise that your problem about decision taking and collapsing alternatives, probably came from here : My proposition was mostly intended for people representation, mostly at parlementary level. Executive decisions are not taken at that level... As you said, if we want a leadership, we pr

Re: [EM] Arrow's axioms & an alternative to elections

2004-03-09 Thread Ernest Prabhakar
Hi Philippe, Thanks for your thought-provoking reply. I get the impression you live in a slightly different world than I do, so I doubt we'll ever achieve a full understanding, but I wanted to touch on a few salient points. This is the good ol' classical way of viewing human being, but it is

Re: [EM] Arrow's axioms & an alternative to elections

2004-03-06 Thread Philippe Errembault
Hello Ernie, (please forget my previous mail/ I forgot to redirect it to the list, and I forgot to end one paragraph) > My point is that if you want to rank multi-dimensional information, > you will have to project your space to a one-dimensional space. This > will be done using a function that

Re: [EM] Arrow's axioms & an alternative to elections

2004-03-06 Thread Ernest Prabhakar
Hi Philippe, On Mar 5, 2004, at 11:03 PM, Philippe Errembault wrote: My point is that if you want to rank multi-dimensional information, you will have to project your space to a one-dimensional space. This will be done using a function that, especially for human beings, will depends on your mo

Re: [EM] Arrow's axioms & an alternative to elections

2004-03-06 Thread Philippe Errembault
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Re: [EM] Arrow's axioms & an alternative to elections

2004-03-05 Thread Dave Ketchum
I see hope in what Phillippe writes below. Perhps what I wrote in 1998 will encourge more effort: --- Something is needed to strengthen "by the people". An alternative method of representation is offered for thought: * Everyone retain

Re: [EM] Arrow's axioms & an alternative to elections

2004-03-05 Thread Philippe Errembault
Hi Ernest, I hope we understand each other's. Since English is not my mother tongue, I could pass over some misunderstanding without realising it. I will try to be clearer. My point is that if you want to rank multi-dimensional information, you will have to project your space to a one-dimen