[EM] Nanson

2005-06-14 Thread Simon Gazeley
Title: Nanson Sorry, folks, my enthusiasm ran away with me in my earlier message.  If candidate A is the Nanson winner, it is still possible for candidate B to beat A in a pairwise contest, so in this case the average voter ranks B above A.  It is still true, however, that the average voter

[EM] Nanson

2005-06-13 Thread MIKE OSSIPOFF
It's true that we we don't discuss most voting systems here--only the ones that we really like. (But we discuss IRV and Borda a little, just because they're fairly frequently proposed or mentioned in popular articles). Nanson meets Condorcet's Criterion, but it fails all the defensive strat

Re: [EM] NANSON - Elections to one seat

2005-06-13 Thread James Green-Armytage
Mr. Gazeley, Thank you for writing to the list. I remember your article with I.D. Hill about sequential STV. Are you aware of Nic Tideman's CPO-STV? Anyway, back to your topic. Many of us are aware of Nanson's method, but it is true that we do not discuss it very often. My

[EM] NANSON - Elections to one seat

2005-06-13 Thread Simon Gazeley
Title: NANSON - Elections to one seat I was disappointed to see no reference to Nanson on this site. Nanson proved in effect that if a series of Borda counts is conducted on the same set of votes, eliminating each time the candidates whose scores are equal to or below the mean, the one can

Re: [EM] Nanson

2004-05-17 Thread Adam H Tarr
Steph wrote: >This amazes me. >You are not the first to tell me Borda and Condorcet are "equivalent". >It could be the case in term of determining the winner when there is a >Condorcet winner. Nanson is a Borda-elimination method (read: NOT the classic Borda count) and is Condorcet compliant. T

Re: [EM] Nanson

2004-05-17 Thread Stephane Rouillon
This amazes me. You are not the first to tell me Borda and Condorcet are "equivalent". It could be the case in term of determining the winner when there is a Condorcet winner. However, Borda is not cloneproof and I always believed Condorcet methods were. So, does a susceptibility to cloning affect

[EM] Nanson

2004-05-17 Thread Simon Gazeley
Dear List For interest. Simon NANSON'S PROPOSITION Nanson proved that if a series of Borda counts is conducted on the same set of votes, eliminating each time the candidates whose Borda scores are below the average, the one candidate who is left at the end is the Condorcet winner if there i

[EM] Nanson and Borda

2003-08-14 Thread Joseph Malkevitch
If one uses preferential ballots where there is no indifference allowed in ranking the candidates, and if one gives points to the candidates where the number of points that candidate i gets for a particular ballot is the number of candidates ranked below candidate i on that ballot, then this is