[EM] Re: Blake's margins arguments

2003-03-13 Thread MIKE OSSIPOFF
I replied to this message some days ago, and sent my reply in, but maybe I sent it to the old list address, because it isn't in the archives: I'd said: Majority matters because it's a group of people whose need for defensive strategy can be minimized to a degree qualitatively better than can be

[EM] RP vs BeatpathWinner, committee clarification

2003-03-13 Thread MIKE OSSIPOFF
Steve wrote: In a recent message I erred when I said Mike Ossipoff considers MAM best in both committees and public elections, judging by his recent messages in EM that say he thinks it's better in public elections but not in committees. I reply: No error or contradiction. I agree that RP(wv)is _

[EM] Re: Markus, RP vs BeatpathWinner

2003-03-13 Thread MIKE OSSIPOFF
Markus-- You wrote: So you say that there is no significant merit difference between Ranked Pairs and the beat path method, that its "elegantly simple & brief algorithm & computer program" make the beat path method a better proposal for committees, and that its brief definition makes Ranked Pairs

[EM] Smith//MinMax

2003-03-13 Thread Rob LeGrand
Markus wrote: > For example, when there are 15 candidates then the Smith//MinMax winner > and the winner of the beat path method are identical in 91.7% while the > Smith//MinMax winner and the Ranked Pairs winner are identical in only > 41.8% of all situations: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elect

Re: [EM] Dyadic ballots (was "...encouraging truncation")

2003-03-13 Thread Forest Simmons
See typo correction below: On Thu, 13 Mar 2003, Forest Simmons wrote: > > If there are fewer than five candidates there is no need to have four bit > ballots. With three candidates two bits are sufficient, so the method > would be the same as the one Venzke described. Should be " ... the one St

Re: [EM] Dyadic ballots (was "...encouraging truncation")

2003-03-13 Thread Forest Simmons
On Thu, 13 Mar 2003, [iso-8859-1] Kevin Venzke wrote: > Forest, > > This is an interesting idea. > > I was trying to do some examples with it, but I'm not > sure how to create the four matrices. These are the > ballots I was trying to use: > > 12: A at 10 (fill 8 and 2 circles) > 11: B at 7 (fi

Re: [EM] Comparing ranked versus unranked methods

2003-03-13 Thread Forest Simmons
On Sun, 9 Mar 2003, Olli Salmi wrote: > Forest, > > I've found this method of yours fascinating. > > At 18:45 +0200 6.2.2002, Forest Simmons wrote: > >> One option might be to decay a voter's ballot based on the position of the > >> elected candidate on the ballot... a sort of Borda-based decay

RE: [EM] Elections Scheduling?

2003-03-13 Thread Olli Salmi
At 13:05 -0500 13.3.2003, Narins, Josh wrote: For instance, today I am wondering when the next Aussie election that could result in a change in PM might occur. This may be what you are looking for: http://www.electionworld.org/ These may also be interesting http://dodgson.ucsd.edu/lij/ http://www.p

Re: [EM] Elections Scheduling?

2003-03-13 Thread Jan Kok
I like http://australianpolitics.com/ .  It has several fairly detailed pages of info about how Australian elections work, about the political parties and so on.  There is also some info about British and American politics and elections. I don't know of any worldwide summary info, but you co

RE: [EM] Elections Scheduling?

2003-03-13 Thread Narins, Josh
This is interesting stuff, but nobody knows about any general resources? For instance, today I am wondering when the next Aussie election that could result in a change in PM might occur. :) Thx in advance. > -Original Message- > From: Olli Salmi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wedne

Re: [EM] Description of "Median," my Approval variant

2003-03-13 Thread Rob LeGrand
Forest wrote: > There's also the possibility that somebody else has already named the > corresponding method based on pairwise matrices derived from fully ranked > preference ballots. > > A while back Rob LeGrand was tracking down names for everybody's favorite > methods. Perhaps he would know. N

Re: [EM] Dyadic ballots (was "...encouraging truncation")

2003-03-13 Thread Kevin Venzke
Forest, This is an interesting idea. I was trying to do some examples with it, but I'm not sure how to create the four matrices. These are the ballots I was trying to use: 12: A at 10 (fill 8 and 2 circles) 11: B at 7 (fill 4, 2, 1) I'm also not sure how the winner on the finest matrix might n

Re: IMC, I2C and LIIA criteria (was Re: [EM] Markus: RP & BeatpathWinner/CSSD)

2003-03-13 Thread Markus Schulze
Dear Steve, you wrote (12 March 2003): > As for your conjecture that MAM and BeatpathWinner would probably > perform about the same in a simulation that adds a randomly ranked > candidate (or, equivalently, a simulation that retallies after > deleting a random loser, which might be easier to wr