Tool Analogy

I liken Approval to a simple, solid, reliable hand-tool. It isn't automatic, but it works. Automatic devices (rank-methods) promise great convenience--if they work. They won't work unless you buy the best brand. IRO advocates are trying to sell you a piece of garbage. Mike Ossipoff

Blake's Example

A few days ago Blake posted an example to show that, even with VA, voters could benefit by not ranking their favorite 1st. For 1 thing, I've been quite clear, in my discussion of the 1st Choice Criterion, that I'm talking about people being forced to abandon their favorite as a defensive strateg

Re: What do you do when the system breaks down absolutly.

> > > Its two weeks before election and the Republicans just stole my vote. > They did this with unfair ballot access rules that forced the Libertarian > party to gather more signatures than any party in America's history. > And since they control the election board even that is not enough. > >

preferences counted standard

This is a procedural standard that, by itself, isn't enough. So my other, properties-oriented, standards & criteria, relating 1st Choice abandonment and majority rule are what are important to me. Still, it's worth mentioning a criterion about preferences being counted, because IRO fails even th

Re: [ER] What Use?

> > -- Forwarded Letter > Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 19:17:16 -0700 (PDT) > From: Ren Aguila > Subject: What Use? > To: New Democracy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > Dear Donald,19 October 1998 > > I am a resident of the Philipp

Monotonicity isn't demanding

Of all the methods proposed here, IRO is the only one that violates monotonicity. So it's an easily-avoidable problem: just don't use the shabbiest, funkiest rank-balloting method. Mike

RE: What Use?

The problem in many so-called developed countries, as well as undeveloped countries, is indirect minority rule by one or a handful of oligarchs. In such politically primitive countries I suggest- 1. Have ballot access by equal nominating petitions. 2. Have a simple proportional representation

What do you do when the system breaks down absolutly.

Its two weeks before election and the Republicans just stole my vote. They did this with unfair ballot access rules that forced the Libertarian party to gather more signatures than any party in America's history. And since they control the election board even that is not enough. Obviously I'm go

Re: Ranking can violate secrecy.

At 03:38 PM 10/16/98 EDT, you wrote: >Secrecy can be violated with the current simple X voting method if there are >multiple offices on the ballot. The corrupted voter would vote for the false >choice for an important office/issue along with some obscure combination (such >as for judicial candida

[em] What Use?

-- Forwarded Letter Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 19:17:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Ren Aguila Subject: What Use? To: New Democracy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Dear Donald,19 October 1998 I am a resident of the Philippines, a country whose m

Re: More standards

In response to: > To:Election Methods > From: Blake Cretney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: More standards > Here are the standards I nominate. They are not in order of my > preference. > > Party manipulations I agree with these. > 3. Marginal majority I agree wit

Re: Shouldn't Talk To Santa Clara?

In response to: > From: Bart Ingles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Shouldn't Talk To Santa Clara? > The few Santa Clara County seats that would be affected by this measure > are all non-partisan, at least in theory (no political affiliation is > listed on the ballot). These a