Re: M-Tab on w32 (and other window systems?)

2005-02-14 Thread Lennart Borgman
- Original Message - From: "Miles Bader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Note that this can also be typed using `ESC TAB', which is pretty > convenient (the ESC and TAB keys are almost next to one another). Unfortunately this does not work with viper-mode. Another problem is that the manuals only

Re: Customize buttons that change user's custom fileshouldaskforconfirmation

2005-02-14 Thread Lennart Borgman
- Original Message - From: "Richard Stallman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > One possible solution for that is to discourage, or even get rid of, > of the per-variable command button. If there is only the whole-buffer > Set and the whole-buffer Save, this confusion won't happen. I do not think t

Feature request - dynamic icon pixmap

2005-02-14 Thread Sun Yijiang
GNU Emacs' bitmapicon is a little ugly and not configurable -- that's the truth. XEmacs' elisp function x-set-screen-icon-pixmap can change program icon dynamically, this is very useful when you're working with sevral frames with different major modes -- they can have their own icons in the "taskb

Re: [PATCH] find-file-noselect-1

2005-02-14 Thread Richard Stallman
It looks good to me, except that an error in gdb-find-file-hook should also set gdb-find-file-unhook. ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel

Re: Tooltips on w32 slow and strange

2005-02-14 Thread Jan D.
Kenichi Handa wrote: In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 22:28:19 +0200, Eli Zaretskii <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "Emacs Frame" tooltips seems to work really well in X11; why not just make them work well in Windows too? FWIW, I use Emacs

Re: function-called-at-point: ignore-errors around find-tag-default

2005-02-14 Thread Richard Stallman
In some modes (tex-mode), `find-tag-default' can misbehave and error. It should never get an error--if it can't find a suitable recommendation, it should return nil. But an alternative would be to wrap `find-tag-default' itself in a condition-case.) Before we do that, we should

Re: decode-coding-string gone awry?

2005-02-14 Thread Richard Stallman
> (setq output (decode-coding-string output buffer-file-coding-system)) And this decode-coding-string treats the internal byte sequence of a multibyte string OUTPUT as utf-8, thus you get some garbage. Is it reasonable to operate with decode-coding-string on a multibyte str

Re: query-replace on region highlights too much

2005-02-14 Thread Richard Stallman
The problem is that the highlighting of the search string is performed in the whole buffer, not only in the region where replacing is going to happen. I wrote the code to handle this. I will install it soon. ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Em

Re: Customize buttons that change user's custom fileshouldaskforconfirmation

2005-02-14 Thread Richard Stallman
In contrast, most other applications only have these states: F * the field value A * the active (current/saved) value D * the default value ... The big problem is that if the user sets option X on a page and does "F => C", and then (sometime later) sets option Y on th

Re: lisp-outline-level.

2005-02-14 Thread Richard Stallman
This is a bit strange as outline-regexp doesn't match ";;;###autoload". Shall I commit the patch below? Does this change give improved behavior in any particular case? If so, which case? What happens if you add ;;;###autoload to outline-regexp? _

Re: Popup when buffer file is changed on disk

2005-02-14 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 21:05:01 -0600 (CST) > From: Luc Teirlinck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org > > What about the following? > > (defcustom auto-revert-stop-on-user-input t > "When non-nil, user input temporarily interrupts Auto-Revert Mo

Re: Tooltips on w32 slow and strange

2005-02-14 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 08:48:29 +0900 > From: Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > emacs-devel@gnu.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Might it be simply that Windows is very slow in window-creation (it is > reputedly much slower to creat

Suggested doc change for cus-edit.el

2005-02-14 Thread Luc Teirlinck
In cus-edit.el we see: ;; 6. rogue ;;There are no standard value. There are two problems with this. The lesser of the two is that this does not appear to be grammatically correct. The second, less trivial one is that the situation, as described, appears to be impossible: ;; 4. The s

Re: Popup when buffer file is changed on disk

2005-02-14 Thread Luc Teirlinck
Eli Zaretskii wrote: I think you should describe the effects of each possible value (nil and non-nil) without intermixing them. The way this doc string goes, it's confusing: first you say what happens under a non-nil value, then under nil value, then again under non-nil. What abou

Re: Use faces to indicate states in Customize?

2005-02-14 Thread Luc Teirlinck
Drew Adams wrote: (each entry here is (1) proposed text, (2) state, (3) current text, (4) doc string text from `custom-magic-alist'): The entries you give for (4) to not seem to correspond either to today's recent or yesterday's values of `custom-magic-alist'. Some descriptions in it are v

Re: M-Tab on w32 (and other window systems?)

2005-02-14 Thread Miles Bader
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 00:56:12 +0100, Lennart Borgman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "The traditional GNU Emacs key combination for completion in a buffer > is `M-'. However, many window systems and window managers use this > key combination themselves (typically for switching between windows) > and do

Re: Use faces to indicate states in Customize?

2005-02-14 Thread Luc Teirlinck
Drew Adams wrote: With an aim to reduce the "noise" in the Customize UI a bit, I do not find the current Customize UI too noisy, except for the fact that a very recent change has led to plenty of continuation lines in Custom buffers, which I find ugly and distracting. In another message, I pr

Re: Tooltips on w32 slow and strange

2005-02-14 Thread Kenichi Handa
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 22:28:19 +0200, Eli Zaretskii <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > "Emacs Frame" tooltips seems to work really well in X11; why not just >> > make them work well in Windows too? >> >> FWIW, I use Emacs on

Re: M-Tab on w32 (and other window systems?)

2005-02-14 Thread David Kastrup
"Lennart Borgman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The citation below is from nxml-mode.info. Is this something that should be > adopted generally in Emacs? > > "The traditional GNU Emacs key combination for completion in a buffer > is `M-'. However, many window systems and window managers use this >

Further problem with recent changes to custom-magic-alist.

2005-02-14 Thread Luc Teirlinck
I have a further problem with the recent changes to custom-magic-alist: You have set this %c and saved it through Customize in your init file. This is too long. It produces lots of ugly continuation lines. It also is inaccurate if custom-file is non-nil. What about just: You have set and saved

Re: Tooltips on w32 slow and strange

2005-02-14 Thread David Kastrup
Jason Rumney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 22:28:19 +0200, Eli Zaretskii <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> > "Emacs Frame" tooltips seems to work really well in X11; why not just >>> > make them work well in Windows too? >>> >>> FWIW,

Apparently incorrect changes to custom-magic-alist.

2005-02-14 Thread Luc Teirlinck
I propose the changes to cus-edit.el contained in the patch below. They essentially constitute a partial revert to the previous version. Part of recent changes to custom-magic-alist are wrong. Do `emacs -q'. M-x customize-group auto-revert RET Now toggle Auto Revert Verbose to off and set for th

M-Tab on w32 (and other window systems?)

2005-02-14 Thread Lennart Borgman
The citation below is from nxml-mode.info. Is this something that should be adopted generally in Emacs? "The traditional GNU Emacs key combination for completion in a buffer is `M-'. However, many window systems and window managers use this key combination themselves (typically for switching betwe

Re: Tooltips on w32 slow and strange

2005-02-14 Thread Lennart Borgman
- Original Message - From: "Miles Bader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Might it be simply that Windows is very slow in window-creation (it is > reputedly much slower to create new OS processes than other OSes) and > the original poster has a very slow machine? No. I would not believe so. Window-

Re: Tooltips on w32 slow and strange

2005-02-14 Thread Jason Rumney
Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 22:28:19 +0200, Eli Zaretskii <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > "Emacs Frame" tooltips seems to work really well in X11; why not just >> > make them work well in Windows too? >> >> FWIW, I use Emacs on Windows XP and never saw any specia

Re: Tooltips on w32 slow and strange

2005-02-14 Thread Miles Bader
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 22:28:19 +0200, Eli Zaretskii <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Emacs Frame" tooltips seems to work really well in X11; why not just > > make them work well in Windows too? > > FWIW, I use Emacs on Windows XP and never saw any special slowness of > the Emacs tooltips. Might it b

which-func-mode does not give expected names

2005-02-14 Thread Lennart Borgman
I just tried which-func-mode on process.c. It does not always show the function name as expected. Instead it seems to believe that part of comments contain the function name. It can for example show "usage:" as the function name. ___ Emacs-devel maili

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Re: decode-coding-string gone awry?

2005-02-14 Thread David Kastrup
Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Now I am venturing into the realm of pure luxury: is there a way to >> have the eight-bit-* chars display as octal escapes always even when >> real latin1 characters (inserted by a process with process-coding >> latin1) get displayed transparently? I

Re: make-network-process on w32

2005-02-14 Thread Guy Gascoigne - Piggford
Try something like: (setq server-process (make-network-process :name "server" :host "127.0.0.1" :service :server t :noquery t :sentinel 'server-sentinel :filter 'server-process-filter :coding 'raw-text )) That pegs the CPU as well,

Re: decode-coding-string gone awry?

2005-02-14 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Now I am venturing into the realm of pure luxury: is there a way to > have the eight-bit-* chars display as octal escapes always even when > real latin1 characters (inserted by a process with process-coding > latin1) get displayed transparently? I seem to remember that in those > "crazy" utf-8 b

Re: make-network-process on w32

2005-02-14 Thread Jason Rumney
Guy Gascoigne - Piggford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Can anyone confirm that make-network-process actually works on > NT. I've started looking at fixing emacsclient so that it works on > Windows since I made the mistake of volunteering before realising just > how little time I have :) It only w

Re: Emacs carbon crash, and beginner question...

2005-02-14 Thread Martin Fredriksson
On 14 feb 2005, at 10.51, Sébastien Kirche wrote: Maybe it's a bit late, but for Carbon Emacs, you can get some infos about a crash (threads, call stack, etc...) with "Console" app. Yes, that's a good tip. The problem here was that Emacs didn't crash in the way that it produced a crash log (no

Re: decode-coding-string gone awry?

2005-02-14 Thread David Kastrup
Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> So that is basically the background why we can easily make the process >> raw-text, but quite less easily make the buffer unibyte: AUCTeX will >> use the same buffer for its next run, just erasing it, and if it has >> turned unibyte, we get into troubl

Re: decode-coding-string gone awry?

2005-02-14 Thread David Kastrup
Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> So that is basically the background why we can easily make the >> process raw-text, but quite less easily make the buffer unibyte: >> AUCTeX will use the same buffer for its next run, just erasing it, >> and if it has turned unibyte, we get into troubl

Re: decode-coding-string gone awry?

2005-02-14 Thread Stefan Monnier
> So that is basically the background why we can easily make the process > raw-text, but quite less easily make the buffer unibyte: AUCTeX will > use the same buffer for its next run, just erasing it, and if it has > turned unibyte, we get into trouble. OK. raw-text is good. > The process output

Use faces to indicate states in Customize?

2005-02-14 Thread Drew Adams
With an aim to reduce the "noise" in the Customize UI a bit, here is a proposal that might or might not be considered for 22.1. It should be trivial to implement, while waiting for any more substantial UI changes that we might make after 22.1. 1) We reduce the text displayed as the "state" of each

Re: Unicode branch version updates

2005-02-14 Thread Andreas Schwab
Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> ISTR that extensions with more than three letters are problematic on >> MS DOS (and maybe MS Windows? no idea). How about "Changelog.ucs"? > > Why use an extension at all? > "ChangeLog-unicode" anyone? Why would that be any better on a 8.3 filesystem?

Re: Tooltips on w32 slow and strange

2005-02-14 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 00:08:23 +0900 > From: Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: Stephan Stahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Emacs Devel , > Jason Rumney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > "Emacs Frame" tooltips seems to work really well in X11; why not just > make them work well in Windows too? FWIW, I u

Re: Unicode branch version updates

2005-02-14 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> Cc: Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Kenichi Handa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 12:02:53 -0500 > > Why use an extension at all? > "ChangeLog-unicode" anyone? Now, _that_ would cause proble

Re: Unicode branch version updates

2005-02-14 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> Cc: Kenichi Handa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED], > emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Oliver Scholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 17:02:17 +0100 > > > If there is a subtle bug I haven't noticed with such ChangeLogs, we > > should fix that bug. The fact that you origina

Re: Popup when buffer file is changed on disk

2005-02-14 Thread moheb1333
Hi, Thanks for all the responses to my proposed patch. Autorevert doesn't quite dowhat Lennart and I want because it is not deterministic, i.e., depends on somefrequency value to be set. Also it has to be turned on/off for each bufferunless you set it globally. Problem with global setting is that

Re: Tooltips on w32 slow and strange

2005-02-14 Thread David Kastrup
Ralf Angeli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * Jan D. (2005-02-14) writes: >> >> The problem with the font is that Emacs doesn't support anti >> aliased fonts (yet), but GTK uses them all over, even in tool tips. > > The deficiencies you just mentioned pretty much sum up my concerns > with Emacs tool

Re: Tooltips on w32 slow and strange

2005-02-14 Thread Jan D.
Ideally there shouldn't be a need to customize the appearance of tooltips. It would be desirable if Emacs "simply" used tooltips provided by the toolkit it was configured for (in case the toolkit supports tooltips). This would, for example, also eliminate the need to re-customize their appearance

make-network-process on w32

2005-02-14 Thread Guy Gascoigne - Piggford
Can anyone confirm that make-network-process actually works on NT. I've started looking at fixing emacsclient so that it works on Windows since I made the mistake of volunteering before realising just how little time I have :) Anyway, if I understand things correctly, I should be able to create

Re: decode-coding-string gone awry?

2005-02-14 Thread David Kastrup
Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Give me a clue: what happens if a process inserts stuff with >> 'raw-text encoding into a multibyte buffer? 'raw-text is a >> reconstructible encoding, isn't it, so the stuff will get converted >> into some prefix byte indicating "isolated single-byte

Re: Tooltips on w32 slow and strange

2005-02-14 Thread Ralf Angeli
* Jan D. (2005-02-14) writes: >> I just saw those tooltips the first time in my life by enabling >> tooltip-mode and hovering with the mouse pointer over some menus >> generated by AUCTeX. If one is used to native GTK tooltips, the ones >> generated by Emacs look really awkward. > > Care to elabo

Re: decode-coding-string gone awry?

2005-02-14 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Give me a clue: what happens if a process inserts stuff with 'raw-text > encoding into a multibyte buffer? 'raw-text is a reconstructible > encoding, isn't it, so the stuff will get converted into some prefix > byte indicating "isolated single-byte entity instead of utf-8 char" > and the byte it

RE: Customize buttons thatchangeuser'scustomfileshouldaskforconfirmation

2005-02-14 Thread Drew Adams
But here we are discussing what happens if you change custom-file in an already running Emacs session, after a custom-file has already been loaded. In that situation loading that _second_ Custom file (which presumably is an empty file to be written into by the current Emacs) do

Re: Tooltips on w32 slow and strange

2005-02-14 Thread Jan D.
What you will loose is perhaps international characters. Unless of course care is taken to convert from Emacs representation to whatever w32 uses (UTF8?). I think that has been done with menu strings (which is probably what I confused this with) on several platforms already, and it might also be p

Re: function-called-at-point: ignore-errors around find-tag-default

2005-02-14 Thread Karl Chen
> On 2005-02-14 05:40 PST, Stefan Monnier writes: >> In some modes (tex-mode), `find-tag-default' can misbehave >> and error. Stefan> To better judge which is the right thing to do, could Stefan> you describe what kind of misbehavior/error can happen Stefan> and in which ci

Re: Tooltips on w32 slow and strange

2005-02-14 Thread David Kastrup
"Jan D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The tool tip frames can have any parameter set on them that an > ordinary frame can have, so there is indeed face support and you can > have another font also. See the tool tip section in customize. Yes, others pointed out that I had been babbling nonsense

Re: Tooltips on w32 slow and strange

2005-02-14 Thread Jan D.
* David Kastrup (2005-02-14) writes: Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hmmm; here's a simple example: (x-show-tip (propertize "*** hello ***" 'face '(variable-pitch :foreground "green" :background "steelblue"

Re: Tooltips on w32 slow and strange

2005-02-14 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I think this is the reason: > ,[ startup.el ] > | (defun command-line () > | [...] > | (unless (or noninteractive > | emacs-quick-startup > | (not (display-graphic-p)) > | (not (fboundp 'x-show-tip))) > | (setq-default tooltip-mode t) > | (tool

Re: Tooltips on w32 slow and strange

2005-02-14 Thread Jan D.
2005-02-14 kl. 13.26 skrev David Kastrup: Jason Rumney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Stephan Stahl wrote: I reported this too a while ago but got no answer: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2004-06/msg00060.html As far as i understand tooltips on w32 emacs does not use normal w32-tooltip

Re: decode-coding-string gone awry?

2005-02-14 Thread David Kastrup
Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> instead of being processed directly from the process filter, then >>> you should also ensure that this buffer is unibyte. > >> Yuk. The problem is that this buffer is not only processed by >> preview-latex, but also by AUCTeX, and the versions that g

Re: decode-coding-string gone awry?

2005-02-14 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> instead of being processed directly from the process filter, then >> you should also ensure that this buffer is unibyte. > Yuk. The problem is that this buffer is not only processed by > preview-latex, but also by AUCTeX, and the versions that get combined > may be different. AUCTeX uses the

Re: Tooltips on w32 slow and strange

2005-02-14 Thread Ralf Angeli
* David Kastrup (2005-02-14) writes: > Ralf Angeli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> I just saw those tooltips the first time in my life by enabling >> tooltip-mode and hovering with the mouse pointer over some menus >> generated by AUCTeX. If one is used to native GTK tooltips, the ones >> genera

Re: Tooltips on w32 slow and strange

2005-02-14 Thread Lennart Borgman
- Original Message - From: "Jason Rumney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >There is a window class (is that the term?) TOOLTIPS_CLASS which can be used > >with CreateWindowEx. I am not an expert on this but there are examples in > >MSDN. > > > > > That documentation is for the "Common Controls" API

Re: Tooltips on w32 slow and strange

2005-02-14 Thread Reiner Steib
On Mon, Feb 14 2005, David Kastrup wrote: > Uh what? Tooltips are enabled by default. At least I get them also > with -q -no-site-file. The customization buffer says, however, [...] > Tooltip Mode: Hide Toggle on (non-nil) >State: this option has been changed outside the customize

Re: Tooltips on w32 slow and strange

2005-02-14 Thread Jason Rumney
David Kastrup wrote: The customization buffer says, however, Tooltip Mode: Hide Toggle on (non-nil) State: this option has been changed outside the customize buffer. Which would appear rather wrong, as it would mean that you could not customize tooltips off even if you wanted to. I don

Re: decode-coding-string gone awry?

2005-02-14 Thread David Kastrup
Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> The problem is that by passing `output' to decode-coding-string you >>> clearly consider `output' to be a sequence of bytes. But to >>> construct `output' you use pieces of `string' so you have to make >>> sure that `string' is also a sequence of byt

Re: Tooltips on w32 slow and strange

2005-02-14 Thread David Kastrup
Ralf Angeli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * David Kastrup (2005-02-14) writes: > >> Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >>> Hmmm; here's a simple example: >>> >>>(x-show-tip >>> (propertize "*** hello ***" >>> 'face '(variable-pitch :foreground "green" >>>

imap process not running

2005-02-14 Thread Stefan Monnier
[ I'm using the Emacs-CVS code, running on a GNU/Linux system using an IMAP/SSL connection using the `openssl' executable. ] Every once in a while, Gnus complains that the imap process is not running. Usually it automatically restarts it behind my back, but occasionally it burps instead. The

Re: Unicode branch version updates

2005-02-14 Thread Stefan Monnier
> ISTR that extensions with more than three letters are problematic on > MS DOS (and maybe MS Windows? no idea). How about "Changelog.ucs"? Why use an extension at all? "ChangeLog-unicode" anyone? Stefan ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-dev

Re: decode-coding-string gone awry?

2005-02-14 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> The problem is that by passing `output' to decode-coding-string you >> clearly consider `output' to be a sequence of bytes. But to >> construct `output' you use pieces of `string' so you have to make >> sure that `string' is also a sequence of bytes. Assuming `string' >> comes from the TeX pro

Re: Tooltips on w32 slow and strange

2005-02-14 Thread Ralf Angeli
* David Kastrup (2005-02-14) writes: > Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Hmmm; here's a simple example: >> >>(x-show-tip >> (propertize "*** hello ***" >> 'face '(variable-pitch :foreground "green" >> :background "steelblue" >>

Re: Unicode branch version updates

2005-02-14 Thread Oliver Scholz
Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Kenichi Handa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] >> Thank you for taking care of this matter. But, I vaguely remember >> that the reason I changed ChangeLog.unicode (I was using it when I was >> working on it locally) to ChangeLog.22 was that if the extent

Re: Tooltips on w32 slow and strange

2005-02-14 Thread David Kastrup
Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 13:26:46 +0100, David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> At least the X11 tooltips on Emacs provide no functionality >> whatsoever except popping up some text in a single font AFAICS. No >> face support, no clickable areas, nothing.

Re: Tooltips on w32 slow and strange

2005-02-14 Thread Jason Rumney
Lennart Borgman wrote: - Original Message - From: "Jason Rumney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I don't think there is a function for popping them up in the system. Many armchair critics are not aware of the distinction between Microsoft's proprietary C++ GUI toolkit (MFC) and what

Re: Tooltips on w32 slow and strange

2005-02-14 Thread Miles Bader
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 14:54:36 +0100, Lennart Borgman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Could not this functionality be encapsulated so that it could use the > platform > specific tooltips? It could perhaps be the easiest way to solve the problem? > > What functionality could be lost? (1) face support (

Local Ispell dictionary set to nil

2005-02-14 Thread Klaus Zeitler
as of recently emacs prints the message "Local Ispell dictionary set to nil", when I load a new file (that uses flyspell-prog-mode). I think it has something to do with the fact that flyspell calls ispell-change-dictionary with the following parameter (or ispell-local-dictionary ispell-dictionar

Re: Tooltips on w32 slow and strange

2005-02-14 Thread Miles Bader
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 13:26:46 +0100, David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At least the X11 tooltips on Emacs provide no functionality > whatsoever except popping up some text in a single font AFAICS. No > face support, no clickable areas, nothing. Have you tried it? I've certainly used face

Re [22]

2005-02-14 Thread Cole Monroe
MIRC children are Hold on IT/GingerSims Codes <>___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel

Re: Fw: [h-e-w] ntemacs from nqmacs.sf.net has no menu bars on 9x/ME

2005-02-14 Thread Jason Rumney
i downloaded the latest unstable emacs for windows from nqmacs.sf.net (the 2005-01-30 version), and tried it on a 95 box, a ME box and a XP box. On the first two ones, no menu bar appears, on XP it does. I started with -q and tried to toggle menu-bar-mode without any visible effect. Most like

Re: Tooltips on w32 slow and strange

2005-02-14 Thread Lennart Borgman
- Original Message - From: "Jason Rumney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I don't think there is a function for popping them up in the system. > Many armchair critics are not aware of the distinction between > Microsoft's proprietary C++ GUI toolkit (MFC) and what is available > directly from the O

Re: Tooltips on w32 slow and strange

2005-02-14 Thread Lennart Borgman
- Original Message - From: "Jason Rumney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >As far as i understand tooltips on w32 emacs does not use normal > >w32-tooltips but special emacs frames that are stripped of everything > >(modeline, toolbar, minibuffer,...). Maybe this could be changed.. > > > > > Emacs

Re: decode-coding-string gone awry?

2005-02-14 Thread David Kastrup
Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> (while (string-match "\\^\\{2,\\}\\(\\([EMAIL >> PROTECTED])\\|[8-9a-f][0-9a-f]\\)" >>string) >> (setq output >> (concat output >> (regexp-quote (substring string >>

Re: Current CVS doesn't bootstrap

2005-02-14 Thread Reiner Steib
On Mon, Feb 14 2005, Andreas Schwab wrote: > I'm getting this error during bootstrapping: [...] > Loading cus-start (source)... > Symbol's value as variable is void: dos-unsupported-char-glyph It seems to be related to Richards recent changes to cus-start.el. A possible workaround (I don't know

Re: decode-coding-string gone awry?

2005-02-14 Thread Stefan Monnier
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Re: function-called-at-point: ignore-errors around find-tag-default

2005-02-14 Thread Stefan Monnier
> In some modes (tex-mode), `find-tag-default' can misbehave and error. To better judge which is the right thing to do, could you describe what kind of misbehavior/error can happen and in which circumstance? Stefan ___ Emacs-devel mailing lis

Re: Current CVS doesn't bootstrap

2005-02-14 Thread Lute Kamstra
Andreas Schwab <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm getting this error during bootstrapping: > > Loading emacs-lisp/byte-run (source)... > Loading emacs-lisp/backquote (source)... > Loading subr (source)... > Loading version.el (source)... > Loading widget (source)... > Loading custom (source)... > L

Re: Tooltips on w32 slow and strange

2005-02-14 Thread Jason Rumney
David Kastrup wrote: Jason Rumney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Emacs uses frames for its tooltips on all platforms. To change this on Windows would make it more difficult to maintain, and would lose functionality. Are you sure about that? Under X11, tooltips come with

Re: Tooltips on w32 slow and strange

2005-02-14 Thread David Kastrup
Jason Rumney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Stephan Stahl wrote: > >>I reported this too a while ago but got no answer: >>http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2004-06/msg00060.html >> >>As far as i understand tooltips on w32 emacs does not use normal >>w32-tooltips but special emacs frames

Current CVS doesn't bootstrap

2005-02-14 Thread Andreas Schwab
I'm getting this error during bootstrapping: Loading emacs-lisp/byte-run (source)... Loading emacs-lisp/backquote (source)... Loading subr (source)... Loading version.el (source)... Loading widget (source)... Loading custom (source)... Loading emacs-lisp/map-ynp (source)... Loading env (source)...

Re: Tooltips on w32 slow and strange

2005-02-14 Thread Jason Rumney
Stephan Stahl wrote: But still the current behavior on w32 is very annoying so there should be done something.. I have never noticed this mess when creating frames via C-x 5 2. Maybe we can find out the differences between that and tooltips? I agree that something should be done. I have looked

Re: Tooltips on w32 slow and strange

2005-02-14 Thread Stephan Stahl
Hi Jason. Jason Rumney said: > Emacs uses frames for its tooltips on all platforms. To change this on > Windows would make it more difficult to maintain, and would lose > functionality. OK, I thought it was like this only on w32. But still the current behavior on w32 is very annoying so there s

Re: Tooltips on w32 slow and strange

2005-02-14 Thread Jason Rumney
Stephan Stahl wrote: I reported this too a while ago but got no answer: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2004-06/msg00060.html As far as i understand tooltips on w32 emacs does not use normal w32-tooltips but special emacs frames that are stripped of everything (modeline, toolbar, mini

Re: Emacs carbon crash, and beginner question...

2005-02-14 Thread Sébastien Kirche
Le 11 Feb 2005, Martin Fredriksson s'est exprimé ainsi : > Is there a quick way to read up on how to get Emacs (particularly > Carbon) to log more, run it in debug mode, or otherwise helpful things > to get some more info about intermittent crash problems? Maybe it's a bit late, but for Carbon E

Re: segmentation fault on gnu/hurd, CVS version

2005-02-14 Thread Richard Stallman
Running emacs on gdb step by step, it gets stucked at the function XtOpenDisplay (..) at the file xterm.c I would think this means that either there is a bug in Xt or some of the data being passed to XtOpenDisplay are invalid. Can you find anything invalid?

Re: Emacs 21.4

2005-02-14 Thread Yoichi NAKAYAMA
At Mon, 07 Feb 2005 15:50:37 -0500, Richard Stallman wrote: > I have made an Emacs 21.4 release with a single security fix. I could not find leim-21.4.tar.gz (I know that leim was not affected by that change). Should we use leim-21.3.tar.gz with emacs-21.4.tar.gz? Regards, -- Yoichi NAKAYAMA

Re: Tooltips on w32 slow and strange

2005-02-14 Thread Stephan Stahl
Hi Lennart. Lennart Borgman said: > The tooltip implementation on w32 seems a bit strange. In some cases > it can switch to another frame. It is also very slow. I reported this too a while ago but got no answer: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2004-06/msg00060.html As far as i unde