Re: Can't isearch =?iso-8859-1?q?=27=F6=27?=

2005-04-24 Thread Kenichi Handa
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> The very right way is to shift to emacs-unicode. As long as >> we have multiple character codes for characters that user >> don't want to distinguish, any fix is just a dirty work >> around. > I'm not sure about "w

Russian version of Emacs Tutorial is updated

2005-04-24 Thread Alex Ott
Hi all Here is updated version of Emacs tutorial (russian version). please install it into CVS TUTORIAL.ru.gz Description: GNU Zip compressed data -- With best wishes, Alex Ott Jet Infosystems, http://www.jetinfosoft.ru/ +7 (095) 411 76 01 ___

pExttendder has arrived! Dont waise your time outlandish

2005-04-24 Thread Carmela Soto
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Re: Removing unloaded functions from auto-mode-alist.

2005-04-24 Thread David Kastrup
Lute Kamstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If files do get reloaded often (for good reasons), then recording > old values of functions and variables should probably be done only > if require loads a file. That wouldn't happen twice. Well, I still thin

Re: Removing unloaded functions from auto-mode-alist.

2005-04-24 Thread Lute Kamstra
David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Lute Kamstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >>> Lute Kamstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> Consider the following situation: function 'a is autoloaded: (autoload "blabla" ...). function

Re: Should killing a help or compile buffer also delete the window?

2005-04-24 Thread Daniel Brockman
Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > You shouldn't consider these [temporary] buffers a problem. You're right, I really shouldn't. I'm mostly over it these days. Midnight mode helps, too. > Finding "the right way" to remove a temporary buffer from the screen > is a very hard problem.

Re: Removing unloaded functions from auto-mode-alist.

2005-04-24 Thread David Kastrup
Lute Kamstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Lute Kamstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >>> Consider the following situation: >>> >>> function 'a is autoloaded: (autoload "blabla" ...). >>> function 'b is autoloaded: (autoload "other" ...). >>> functio

Re: Feature freeze (was Re: font-lock-comment-delimiter-face)

2005-04-24 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> From: Thien-Thi Nguyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 17:46:40 -0400 > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > >From: Glenn Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 21:27:47 +0100 > >2) should there be a new CVS branch for the release? > > that depends on the precise rele

Re: C-n is very slow in Font-Lock mode

2005-04-24 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> From: Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > CC: emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 17:23:07 -0400 > > It turns out that vertical-motion was fontifying all the text that > it moved over. That seems to be easy to fix. Did you try my suggestion of customizing jit-lock-defer-time? I th

Re: Removing unloaded functions from auto-mode-alist.

2005-04-24 Thread Lute Kamstra
David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Lute Kamstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Consider the following situation: >> >> function 'a is autoloaded: (autoload "blabla" ...). >> function 'b is autoloaded: (autoload "other" ...). >> function 'c is defined. >> function 'd is unbound. >> >> "b

Re: Feature freeze (was Re: font-lock-comment-delimiter-face)

2005-04-24 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
From: Glenn Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 21:27:47 +0100 2) should there be a new CVS branch for the release? that depends on the precise release methodology, which hasn't been captured under admin/ or admin/notes/, as far as i can tell. perhaps that action (and even

Re: RMAIL fontification wrong for cited message text

2005-04-24 Thread Richard Stallman
> > Which of these do Lisp programmers need to use, and when? > > It seems like tooltip-mode is used in several files, so at least that > function should be mentioned. the line which begins with "Which of these do Lisp" has only the second `>' character fontifi

Re: Should killing a help or compile buffer also delete the window?

2005-04-24 Thread Richard Stallman
I realize that you can't expect Emacs to know when you are done with a window unless you actually tell when. The obvious way to tell when is to type `C-x 1' or `C-x 0', but this leaves the temporary buffer lingering, which makes me nervous. You shouldn't consider these buffers a p

Re: C-n is very slow in Font-Lock mode

2005-04-24 Thread Richard Stallman
JIT lock is optimized for C-v and similar methods that page by large chunks of text rather than by one line. I am not sure what that means, in concrete terms of Lisp program actions. I'm also not sure what you mean by "make text visible". It turns out that vertical-motion was fontifyin

Re: Removing unloaded functions from auto-mode-alist.

2005-04-24 Thread Lute Kamstra
David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Lute Kamstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> [...] >> >>> Well, the idea explored a bit later later was that "load" will >>> record autoloads, but not do anything with them by itself, instead >>> letting "

Re: Removing unloaded functions from auto-mode-alist.

2005-04-24 Thread David Kastrup
Lute Kamstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Consider the following situation: > > function 'a is autoloaded: (autoload "blabla" ...). > function 'b is autoloaded: (autoload "other" ...). > function 'c is defined. > function 'd is unbound. > > "blabla" defines 'a, 'b, 'c, and 'd as functions. > > Do

Re: Removing unloaded functions from auto-mode-alist.

2005-04-24 Thread David Kastrup
Lute Kamstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > [...] > >> Well, the idea explored a bit later later was that "load" will >> record autoloads, but not do anything with them by itself, instead >> letting "provide" handle it. > > Ah, now I understand your pos

Re: Removing unloaded functions from auto-mode-alist.

2005-04-24 Thread Lute Kamstra
Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > if I have function FOO autoloaded and (require 'blabla) replaces > that with some other definition, than an immediately following > (unload-feature 'blabla) should restore the autoload, no matter > whether the autoload was pointing to blabla.el o

Feature freeze (was Re: font-lock-comment-delimiter-face)

2005-04-24 Thread Glenn Morris
Kim F. Storm wrote: > Feature freeze ? [...] > Can people please work on completing the release... This prompts me to ask, when were the details of a feature freeze agreed upon? I'm not trying to be provocative, but rather to suggest that one reason for the continued delay is (IMO), lack of a cle

Re: Removing unloaded functions from auto-mode-alist.

2005-04-24 Thread Lute Kamstra
David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > Well, the idea explored a bit later later was that "load" will record > autoloads, but not do anything with them by itself, instead letting > "provide" handle it. Ah, now I understand your post. I think letting provide record autoloads is a bad

Re: Overlay arrow in *compilation* and *grep* buffers

2005-04-24 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kim F. Storm) > Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:42:47 +0200 > Cc: Juri Linkov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > "Eli Zaretskii" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > =>wd.c:5: warning: implicit declaration of function `bar' > > On text terminals, the overlay-arrow i

Re: a question about `,' in backquote

2005-04-24 Thread Andreas Schwab
Masatake YAMATO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I found a following line in the definition of `tags-search': > >(setq tags-loop-scan `(re-search-forward ',regexp nil t) > > Could you tell me why "'" is needed before "," ? Because the form is passed to eval, which evaluates the function argument

Re: Overlay arrow in *compilation* and *grep* buffers

2005-04-24 Thread Kim F. Storm
"Eli Zaretskii" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > =>wd.c:5: warning: implicit declaration of function `bar' > Notice the overlay arrow that covered part of the file name: this is a > bug, IMHO. If we want to have an arrow pointing out the current line, > we should indent the buffer text to the rig

Re: font-lock-comment-delimiter-face

2005-04-24 Thread Kim F. Storm
Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I introduced a new face, font-lock-comment-delimiter-face, > to make it possible to customize separately the fontification > of comment delimiters and comment text. I also set up Rmail > and Sendmail modes to use this. However, lots of other modes

Re: Emacs CVS on OSX Tiger (10.4)

2005-04-24 Thread GMail
On Apr 22, 2005, at 10:36 PM, John Owens wrote: Andrew Beekhof gmail.com> writes: Hi All, It appears that 10.4 has changed enough compared to 10.3.x to break Emacs. I can confirm this is a problem and wanted to detail my similar workaround. 1) Comment out select_and_poll_event and sys_select fun

a question about `,' in backquote

2005-04-24 Thread Masatake YAMATO
I found a following line in the definition of `tags-search': (setq tags-loop-scan `(re-search-forward ',regexp nil t) Could you tell me why "'" is needed before "," ? Is there any strong reason? I think it is easier to read next line: (setq tags-loop-scan `(re-search-forward ,regexp nil t

Re: Should killing a help or compile buffer also delete the window?

2005-04-24 Thread Alan Mackenzie
On Sun, 24 Apr 2005, Robert J. Chassell wrote: >On 24 Apr 2005, Daniel Brockman wrote, >I've always found it annoying that Emacs seems to have a habit of >leaving junk windows around whenever you invoke something ... >Most often, I just want to bury the buffer, not delete it. Your two >

a problem of emacs-21.3 on FreeBSD-ia64

2005-04-24 Thread Yoichi NAKAYAMA
I saw a strange behavior of emacs-21.3 on FreeBSD-ia64. % uname -a FreeBSD pluto2.freebsd.org 6.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT #1: Sun Apr 24 01:29:20 UTC 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/q/obj/q/6.x/src/sys/PLUTO2 ia64 (emacs-version) => "GNU Emacs 21.3.1 (ia64-unknown-freebsd6.0) of 2005-04-24 on p

Trouble with backing up files

2005-04-24 Thread Eli Zaretskii
These recent changes: (backup-buffer-copy, basic-save-buffer-2): Take care against writing thru an unexpected existing symlink. break saving of precious files (those for which file-precious-flag is non-nil): Emacs always says that it cannot backup the file, and tries to back it up

Re: Emacs for powerpc64

2005-04-24 Thread =?iso-8859-15?q?J=E9r=F4me_Marant?=
Ken Raeburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Apr 23, 2005, at 13:37, Jérôme Marant wrote: >> Hmm, one question though: why isn't it necessary to redefine constants >> like BITS_PER_LONG, BITS_PER_EMACS_INT, EMACS_INT and so on, as done in >> the (for instance) AMD64 port file? > > I don't think it

Re: Should killing a help or compile buffer also delete the window?

2005-04-24 Thread Robert J. Chassell
On 24 Apr 2005, Daniel Brockman wrote, I've always found it annoying that Emacs seems to have a habit of leaving junk windows around whenever you invoke something ... Most often, I just want to bury the buffer, not delete it. Your two examples of buffers you want to delete are buffers I

Overlay arrow in *compilation* and *grep* buffers

2005-04-24 Thread Eli Zaretskii
A couple of weeks ago, a change to compile.el introduced an overlay arrow into buffers created by compile.el: the overlay arrow now marks the current line in the compilation buffer. (Here, ``current line'' means the line whose locus is displayed in the other window; next-error and mouse-1 change t

flymake cleanups (long patch)

2005-04-24 Thread Chong Yidong
Here is a jumbo patch for the "clean up flymake.el" entry in FOR-RELEASE. It removes the `flymake-get-buffer-*' and `flymake-set-buffer-*' helper functions, a pretty strange coding convention that flymake.el uses for setting local variables. The trouble is that 99% of these functions are called i

Re: font-lock-comment-delimiter-face

2005-04-24 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> From: Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:51:38 -0400 > > I introduced a new face, font-lock-comment-delimiter-face, > to make it possible to customize separately the fontification > of comment delimiters and comment text. I also set up Rmail > and Sendmail modes t

RMAIL fontification wrong for cited message text

2005-04-24 Thread Eli Zaretskii
I didn't yet have time to try the version of RMAIL with separate faces for comment delimiter and comment text, so what's below might not happen there. With the version of RMAIL from yesterday morning (GMT), fontification of cited messages is wrong when more than one level of citations is present.