Re: Yet another emacs icons

2005-10-17 Thread Lennart Borgman
Andrew Zhilin wrote: Hello, all, Following the discussion, I've decided to make a 16x16 "notebook" version. Oh my, that was not easy =) Here's the result of my effort. It does not satisfy me 100%, but after a certain point new iterations just ceased to make things better. If you like it, i

Re: ispell-aspell-find-dictionary: Opening input file: no such file or directory

2005-10-17 Thread Eugene Vlasov
On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 11:39:43PM -0400 Richard M. Stallman: > No, bad. Default value of ispell-dictionary-alist includes needed for > me "russian" dictionary. But after initialize spell checking with this > patch, i have in this list only english, canadian, british > dictionaries

Re: compress files patch for mac/make-package

2005-10-17 Thread Romain Francoise
"Richard M. Stallman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Do all Emacs operations handle the compressed .el files? There were a handful of bugs with packages autoloading the .el file explicitly instead of just specifying the package name, I fixed them a few weeks ago. The Emacs CVS packages in Debian

Re: ispell-aspell-find-dictionary: Opening input file: no such file or directory

2005-10-17 Thread Richard M. Stallman
> I don't know where the bug, but may be fallback to default value of > ispell-dictionary-alist if (ispell-aspell-find-dictionary) > unsuccessfull? > I think this change should do it. Does it give good results? No, bad. Default value of ispell-dictionary-alist inc

Re: image size limit?

2005-10-17 Thread Richard M. Stallman
> But I don't think this limit should be absolute. I think it should be > specified as a multiple of the frame height and width, and it should > be given as a floating point number. I'd suggest 2.0 as the default > for this ratio. What frame should we then use? The selected f

Re: compress files patch for mac/make-package

2005-10-17 Thread Richard M. Stallman
here's a simple patch to mac/make-package that adds a --compressed-dist option to compress info files and .el files that have been byte-compiled. it defaults to "no". Do all Emacs operations handle the compressed .el files? Maybe they do, now that Auto Compress mode is normally enable

Re: Closing popup causes mouse event

2005-10-17 Thread YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
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Re: [Chong Yidong] Re: Tool-bar buttons unresponsive with tooltips on

2005-10-17 Thread Chong Yidong
> It seems to be related to a setting in KDE's window manager, "Click > Raise Active Window". > > Interesting (but I still don't understand where the problem is, or > what triggers it). > > > What happens to last_mouse_glyph when you click on the toolbar? In a > GTK build (where the toolbar

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thumbs-image-type?

2005-10-17 Thread Bill Wohler
It seems to me that the following should be renamed to image-type and moved to image.el, or--probably better--calls to thumbs-image-type should be replaced by image-type-from-file-header. (defun thumbs-image-type (img) "Return image type from filename IMG." (cond ((string-match ".*\\.jpe?g\\'"

Using keyboard-interactive authentication added to source files

2005-10-17 Thread Lennart Borgman
I get a strange error when i check out files from CVS. For example doing an ediff-revision on w32term.h I got a line saying Using keyboard-interactive authentication. in the temporary checked out copy. I do not believe it worked like this before, I should have noticed it I mean. Any ideas?

Re: Yet another emacs icons

2005-10-17 Thread Ken Manheimer
On 10/17/05, Lennart Borgman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ken Manheimer wrote: > >i like andrew zhilin's set of notebook icons very much, and think > >there are compelling reasons to go with them. > Indeed, I agree, they are nice in both 32x32 and bigger (though I think > there are other nice ico

Re: CORRECT VERSION: tramp (2.0.51); tramp and file-name-all-completions

2005-10-17 Thread Kim F. Storm
Michael Albinus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kim F. Storm) writes: > >> I used it in ido, and it seems to work: >> >> ;; work around bug in ange-ftp. >> ;; /ftp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: => nil >> ;; /ftp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:./ => ok >> (a

lisp/toolbar is gone (was: Shall we use etc/images more?)

2005-10-17 Thread Bill Wohler
"Richard M. Stallman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 1. Move *all* of the images from lisp, lisp/toolbar, and lisp/mail to >etc/images. > > 2. Rename any file with an underscore to one with a dash and update >affected source files (affects MH-E, Gnus, info.el, tool-bar.el).

Re: Defaults for set-variable

2005-10-17 Thread Richard M. Stallman
The change is ok, but please don't bother mentioning it in NEWS. It is below the threshold for mentioning there. NEWS is already so big as to be inconvenient for the users, so lowering that threshold would be unfortunate. ___ Emacs-devel mailing list

Re: Desktop saves TAGS-LISP

2005-10-17 Thread Richard M. Stallman
I think desktop.el should not save TAGS-LISP and other similar files too: It would be more reliable to identify tags tables through a method other than their file names. Could you implement that? The clean way would be to create a major mode for tags tables, and make `initialize-new-tags-tab

Re: Desktop saves isearch-mode

2005-10-17 Thread Richard M. Stallman
When isearch leaves the buffer in isearch mode (this can happen after switching buffers during incremental search), I think that is the bug. Isearch mode should not be left enabled. Can you debug that and fix it? ___ Emacs-devel mailing list

Re: Searching in the minibuffer (was: wrapper fn for message and minibuffer-message?)

2005-10-17 Thread Richard M. Stallman
This doesn't work satisfactorily: temporarily displaying the search prompt at the end of the minibuffer causes too long delay after typing C-s and before point moves to the next occurrence of the search string. Could you be more specific? How long is the delay, and what causes it?

Re: image size limit?

2005-10-17 Thread Chong Yidong
> But I don't think this limit should be absolute. I think it should be > specified as a multiple of the frame height and width, and it should > be given as a floating point number. I'd suggest 2.0 as the default > for this ratio. What frame should we then use? The selected frame? That's not re

Re: mh-e/mh-loaddefs.el removed from CVS

2005-10-17 Thread Bill Wohler
Jason Rumney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bill Wohler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >>> The lisp/Makefile.in has been changed to regenerate > >>> mh-e/mh-loaddefs.el, but the corresponding lisp/makefile.w32-in remain > >>> unchanged. Is that ok? > > > > Done. Can someone please take care of ver

Re: mh-e/mh-loaddefs.el removed from CVS

2005-10-17 Thread Jason Rumney
Bill Wohler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> The lisp/Makefile.in has been changed to regenerate >>> mh-e/mh-loaddefs.el, but the corresponding lisp/makefile.w32-in remain >>> unchanged. Is that ok? > > Done. Can someone please take care of verifying the change and > implementing any "tricky bits"

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compress files patch for mac/make-package

2005-10-17 Thread bryan d. o'connor
here's a simple patch to mac/make-package that adds a --compressed-dist option to compress info files and .el files that have been byte-compiled. it defaults to "no". when used, it cuts down the install size by ~35M. ...bryan Index: make-package ===

Re: TUTORIAL.gz

2005-10-17 Thread Lennart Borgman
Stefan Monnier wrote: Because it's unlikely (how many people are going to disable auto-compression-mode, really? how many of those will run in an environment where the TUTORIAL files are compressed? how many of those will want to read the tutorial?), and even if it ever happens I don't think i

Re: TUTORIAL.gz

2005-10-17 Thread Stefan Monnier
>>> Shouldn't we better enable auto-compression-mode temporarily if it is >>> switched off? I mean, if a site-wide installation (or distribution) >>> compresses stuff like tutorials and, more importantly, things like NEWS, >>> then Emacs should load these files on request no matter whether the us

Re: TUTORIAL.gz

2005-10-17 Thread Lennart Borgman
Stefan Monnier wrote: Shouldn't we better enable auto-compression-mode temporarily if it is switched off? I mean, if a site-wide installation (or distribution) compresses stuff like tutorials and, more importantly, things like NEWS, then Emacs should load these files on request no matter whethe

Re: Yet another emacs icons

2005-10-17 Thread Lennart Borgman
Ken Manheimer wrote: i like andrew zhilin's set of notebook icons very much, and think there are compelling reasons to go with them. Indeed, I agree, they are nice in both 32x32 and bigger (though I think there are other nice icons too). But is the 16x16 icon version acceptable too? Can the

Re: Yet another emacs icons

2005-10-17 Thread Ken Manheimer
i like andrew zhilin's set of notebook icons very much, and think there are compelling reasons to go with them. first of all, i think most of the other candidates are misguided, because text in an icon is almost always clutter. i am fairly certain that icons serve the purpose of elemental glyphs

Re: TUTORIAL.gz

2005-10-17 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Shouldn't we better enable auto-compression-mode temporarily if it is > switched off? I mean, if a site-wide installation (or distribution) > compresses stuff like tutorials and, more importantly, things like NEWS, > then Emacs should load these files on request no matter whether the user > has

Re: CORRECT VERSION: tramp (2.0.51); tramp and file-name-all-completions

2005-10-17 Thread Stefan Monnier
> or "applied". Therefore I've introduced a new variable > tramp-completion-mode, which is set in > file-name-all-completions. The name "tramp-completion-mode" doesn't say what the variable does. Could you find a better name? I'm not sure I understand what it does so I'm not sure what other name

Re: image size limit?

2005-10-17 Thread Richard M. Stallman
+ #define MAX_IMAGE_SIZE 10 + EMACS_INT Vmax_image_size; 10 as a limit of linear dimension is too large. A square image 10-1 on each side will be 10 billion pixels, far too large to fit in a 32 bit machine. Such a limit should be more like 3000. (That would allow almost 10 mil

Re: Shall we use etc/images more?

2005-10-17 Thread Richard M. Stallman
It also just occurred to me that we could now be more descriptive name in the directory name as well by using low-color instead of lc. What do you think? I don't care. ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/m

Possible patch for Localwords handling in flyspell flyspell-large-region

2005-10-17 Thread Agustin Martin
Hi, I am attaching a possible patch for handling localwords in flyspell-large-region function. The reason for this is as follows. I have been using flyspell in a large file having a number of words declared valid in LocalWords for that file, and running flyspell-buffer is rather slow, because all

etc/TODO: command to make a "Local Variables" section

2005-10-17 Thread Reiner Steib
Hi, in etc/TODO we have: ,[ etc/TODO ] | * Important features: | | [...] | | ** Add a command to make a "Local Variables" section in the current buffer | and/or add a variable to the list. ` How about the following? Upto now, it only adds a new section, but extending the function to

Re: [Chong Yidong] Re: Tool-bar buttons unresponsive with tooltips on

2005-10-17 Thread Chong Yidong
David PONCE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It works for me with KDE 3.4.3 on Fedora Core 3. I checked that "Click > Raise Active Window" is enabled. My Emacs is built --with-gtk. Could you try building without gtk, and see if you can reproduce the problem? ___

Re: TUTORIAL.gz

2005-10-17 Thread David Kastrup
David Reitter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 17 Oct 2005, at 15:46, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> >> Agreed. Except that let-binding auto-compression-mode doesn't do much >> if anything. Better just check whether auto-compression-mode is >> nil and if >> so don't try to load the .gz file. > > Seems

Re: TUTORIAL.gz

2005-10-17 Thread David Reitter
On 17 Oct 2005, at 15:46, Stefan Monnier wrote: Agreed. Except that let-binding auto-compression-mode doesn't do much if anything. Better just check whether auto-compression-mode is nil and if so don't try to load the .gz file. Seems like I got confused by instructions from jka-compr.el:

Defaults for set-variable

2005-10-17 Thread Juri Linkov
I want to fix a bug in `set-variable' related to its default values. It uses `read-variable' to read the name of a user variable (a variable for which `user-variable-p' returns non-nil). But there is one case where `set-variable' doesn't follow this requirement: when a non-user variable name happen

Re: Sharing mail icons between MH-E and Gnus

2005-10-17 Thread Bill Wohler
Reiner Steib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Oct 16 2005, Bill Wohler wrote: > > > Also, the images can be shared by other applications (I hope that > > this will be the case with Gnus soon) so this naming would avoid > > having multiple copies of the same image. > > What do you think about

Re: TUTORIAL.gz

2005-10-17 Thread Romain Francoise
Eli Zaretskii <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > FWIW, I find no compelling reason to do that. TUTORIAL.* files are > relatively small (circa 50KB), so the disk space reclaimed by > compressing them would be minimal. Yup. (A much larger gain is to compress .el files at install time. Since they're u

Re: CORRECT VERSION: tramp (2.0.51); tramp and file-name-all-completions

2005-10-17 Thread Michael Albinus
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kim F. Storm) writes: > I used it in ido, and it seems to work: > > ;; work around bug in ange-ftp. > ;; /ftp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: => nil > ;; /ftp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:./ => ok > (and > (not (string= "/ftp:" dir)) >

Re: TUTORIAL.gz

2005-10-17 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> From: David Reitter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 15:52:57 +0100 > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > someone might want to change the Makefile to gzip the appropriate > files on non-Windows machines. FWIW, I find no compelling reason to do that. TUTORIAL.* files are relatively small (

Re: TUTORIAL.gz

2005-10-17 Thread Stefan Monnier
> ! (setq file (expand-file-name filename data-directory)) > ! (unless (file-exists-p file) > ! (if (file-exists-p (concat file ".gz")) > ! (setq file (concat file ".gz")) > ! (error "%s does not exist" file))) > ! (let ((auto-compression-mode t)) > ! (find-

Re: [Chong Yidong] Re: Tool-bar buttons unresponsive with tooltips on

2005-10-17 Thread David PONCE
Hi, > It seems to be related to a setting in KDE's window manager, "Click > Raise Active Window". The tooltip for this setting says: > > When this option is enabled, the active window will be brought to > the front when you click somewhere into the window contents. > > When "Click Raise Acti

Re: CORRECT VERSION: tramp (2.0.51); tramp and file-name-all-completions

2005-10-17 Thread Kim F. Storm
Michael Albinus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I've committed a new tramp.el into Emacs CVS, please try this. Note > that that I have set tramp-default-method to "ftp", therefore the > results are slightly different. And my telnetd is disabled by default; > I've used ssh therefore. Initial testing

Probably dumb question: glyph rendering on unicode-2 branch

2005-10-17 Thread Adrian Robert
Hi, I apologize if this is a dumb question, but I've been looking through the code and can't figure this one out: on the unicode-2 branch, if a font specifies "iso-10646-1" for XLFD registry/encoding (and then fontset.c sets 'charset' accordingly), what exactly is getting passed in struct

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Re: [Chong Yidong] Re: Tool-bar buttons unresponsive with tooltips on

2005-10-17 Thread Jason Rumney
Kim F. Storm wrote: It seems to be related to a setting in KDE's window manager, "Click Raise Active Window". The tooltip for this setting says: When this option is enabled, the active window will be brought to the front when you click somewhere into the window contents. When "Cli

Re: [Chong Yidong] Re: Tool-bar buttons unresponsive with tooltips on

2005-10-17 Thread Kim F. Storm
Chong Yidong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Chong, perhaps you can try to understand why you have problems with >> mouse clicks due to this change. I don't have the reported problem, >> so I cannot debug it. > > It seems to be related to a setting in KDE's window manager, "Click > Raise Active Wi

Re: [Chong Yidong] Re: Tool-bar buttons unresponsive with tooltips on

2005-10-17 Thread Chong Yidong
> Chong, perhaps you can try to understand why you have problems with > mouse clicks due to this change. I don't have the reported problem, > so I cannot debug it. It seems to be related to a setting in KDE's window manager, "Click Raise Active Window". The tooltip for this setting says: When

Info-index-alternatives

2005-10-17 Thread Juri Linkov
The message displayed by `Info-index-next' is not informative in regard to the number of remaining alternatives that subsequent `,' commands will find. The patch below displays the number as the total size of `Info-index-alternatives' minus the currently found index entry. Since `Info-index-alter

Re: Amendments in calc-units.el

2005-10-17 Thread David Kastrup
James Cloos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> "Jay" == Jay Belanger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >>> P.S.: The patch also removes the "degree" for "Kelvin". > > Jay> Why? > > There is no such thing as degrees Kelvin, there are only Kelvins. The question is whether its the business of calc to be

Re: TUTORIAL.gz

2005-10-17 Thread Juri Linkov
- (insert-file-contents (expand-file-name filename data-directory)) (hack-local-variables) (goto-char (point-min)) (search-forward "\n<<") --- 52,73 (if (get-language-info current-language-environment 'tutorial) current-language

Re: [Chong Yidong] Re: Tool-bar buttons unresponsive with tooltips on

2005-10-17 Thread Kim F. Storm
Jason Rumney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kim F. Storm) writes: > >> Jason, >> >> Can you explain why you added that specific line. >> >> I can see that it looks like a reasonable thing to do, >> but Chong has problems with it (I don't). >> >> What problem was it supposed to fi

Re: Saving minibuffer history

2005-10-17 Thread Hrvoje Niksic
Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > We're not talking about breaking compatibility, but about fixing it. > I agree we shouldn't break compatibility for no reason, but I think > that preserving backward compatibility is a waste of our time in > such a context. Of course, if Hrvoje wants t

Searching in the minibuffer (was: wrapper fn for message and minibuffer-message?)

2005-10-17 Thread Juri Linkov
> Eval: (setq foo 'bar) > > typing `C-s foo' will display: > > Eval: (setq foo 'bar) [I-search backward: foo] > > and `foo' will be highlighted in `isearch' face, as usual. > > I suggest that those who find this interesting try it out. This doesn't work satisfactorily: temporarily

Desktop saves TAGS-LISP

2005-10-17 Thread Juri Linkov
desktop.el doesn't save TAGS files (skipped according to the current default value of the option `desktop-buffers-not-to-save'), but saves information about TAGS-LISP. This causes `find-tag' (M-.) to fail after restoring the desktop due to the attempt to call nil function: Debugger entered--Lisp

Desktop saves isearch-mode

2005-10-17 Thread Juri Linkov
When isearch leaves the buffer in isearch mode (this can happen after switching buffers during incremental search), and desktop-mode is enabled, it writes isearch-mode as one of buffer's minor modes to the desktop file. This causes bad effects during restoring the desktop. When desktop.el calls i

Re: [Chong Yidong] Re: Tool-bar buttons unresponsive with tooltips on

2005-10-17 Thread Jason Rumney
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kim F. Storm) writes: > Jason, > > Can you explain why you added that specific line. > > I can see that it looks like a reasonable thing to do, > but Chong has problems with it (I don't). > > What problem was it supposed to fix? Mouse movement is not correctly tracked without i

Re: delete-char vs "mouse-region" and "transient-mark-region"

2005-10-17 Thread Mathias Dahl
Mathias Dahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "Richard M. Stallman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> 1. $ emacs -q >> >> 2. Create two lines of text: >> >> line1 >> line2 >> >> 3. Mark the first one using the mouse and press C-d (delete-char). The >>marked region will be d

Re: ispell-aspell-find-dictionary: Opening input file: no such file or directory

2005-10-17 Thread Eugene Vlasov
On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 12:33:18AM -0400 Richard M. Stallman wrote: > I don't know where the bug, but may be fallback to default value of > ispell-dictionary-alist if (ispell-aspell-find-dictionary) > unsuccessfull? > I think this change should do it. Does it give good results? No,

MH-E supports other Emacs versions

2005-10-17 Thread Bill Wohler
> * mh-comp.el (mh-complete-word): Pass the common > prefix substring of completion to `display-completion-list'. Just a friendly reminder that MH-E runs on Emacs 20 and 21 too. While I do not expect Emacs developers to write macros such as the following to provide compatibility, the M