Re: org-cite: make 'suppress-author' a citation 'style'

2021-04-24 Thread András Simonyi
Dear All, my 2c on this issue: citeproc-el supports per cite author suppression under the hood, but citeproc-org always maps "suppress author" mode citations to suppressing only the first cite, because my impression was also that this is a citation-level option. This is how the proposal on the

Contributor Steward role (was Re: Concerns about community contributor support)

2021-04-24 Thread Timothy
Dear Bastien, Thank you for your well-thought-out reply. With regards to the question your email ends with: > What do you think? Would you be willing to take this role? > If not, that's perfectly okay, I'll send a call for help. The short answer is "yes, mostly". The long answer follows :P

Re: [tip] search this mailing list with helm-surfraw

2021-04-24 Thread Greg Minshall
Bastien, > You might want to write another one for the public-inbox archive: > > E.g. https://orgmode.org/list/?q=Juan+Manuel+Mac%C3%ADas okay, i'll bite: what *is* the difference between https://orgmode.org/list and https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/ ? cheers, Greg

Re: [tip] search this mailing list with helm-surfraw

2021-04-24 Thread Bastien
Hi Juan, Juan Manuel Macías writes: > I have written some elvis for my > personal use, among them this simple script to search this mailing list, > which I share here in case someone finds it useful: Neat! You might want to write another one for the public-inbox archive: E.g.

Re: Backwards compatability

2021-04-24 Thread Bastien
Hi Bithov, we *do* care a lot about backward compatibility*. We cannot make a strong commitment for contributed libraries and external ones, though, otherwise Org would not evolve. org-drill.el was removed from the contrib/ directory 1 year ago:

Re: Concerns about community contributor support

2021-04-24 Thread Bastien
Dear Timothy, thanks for raising this points so carefully, they are important. I see three distinct problems: 1. The lack of response and/or follow-up when people contribute by sending bug reports or patches on the list. 2. The lack of maintainance on documenting the contribution process

Re: [final patch] Re: add new link type "contact:" for org-contacts.el

2021-04-24 Thread Timothy
I'm afraid it looks like I either made a typo while doing this, or something odd happened. Regardless it didn't work correctly. Take 2, sorry for the noise --- but at least the patch section on updates.orgmode.org should be more useful now as it only shows pending patches again. Timothy

Re: [PATCH 0/1] Add option to delay fontification of source blocks

2021-04-24 Thread Timothy
Marking as closed on updates.orgmode.org via the X-Woof-Patch header. Leo Okawa Ericson writes: > I can't think of a reason either (now that I know that jit-lock exists) > so I will retract my patch.

Re: [PATCH 0/1] Add option to delay fontification of source blocks

2021-04-24 Thread Timothy
Marking as closed on updates.orgmode.org via the X-Woof-Patch header. Leo Okawa Ericson writes: > I can't think of a reason either (now that I know that jit-lock exists) > so I will retract my patch.

Re: [PATCH 0/1] Add option to delay fontification of source blocks

2021-04-24 Thread Timothy
Marking as closed on updates.orgmode.org via the X-Woof-Patch header. Leo Okawa Ericson writes: > I can't think of a reason either (now that I know that jit-lock exists) > so I will retract my patch.

Re: [PATCH] Startup option to separate macros arguments with an alternative string

2021-04-24 Thread Timothy
As you have said you'll start a new thread for your revised proposal, I'll mark this as closed on updates.orgmode.org via the X-Woof-Patch header. Juan Manuel Macías writes: > Ok, I agree. Next week I will start a new thread for submit this new > proposal. > > Best regards, > > Juan Manuel

Re: [PATCH] ob-java: Allow import to end with asterisk

2021-04-24 Thread Timothy
This was not marked as applied on updates.orgmode.org. Doing so with the X-Woof-Patch header. ian martins writes: > Thanks. And thanks for taking the time to fix issues that you find. It > continues to improve because of your contributions. > The patch looks good. Applied.

Re: [PATCH] ob-java, a proposal on import improvement

2021-04-24 Thread Timothy
This was not marked as applied on updates.orgmode.org. Doing so with the X-Woof-Patch header. ian martins writes: > It's no problem. Didn't mean to rush you. Thanks again for the patch. Applied.

Re: [PATCH] org-contacts.el: Use `bound-and-true-p' to check (unbound) var

2021-04-24 Thread Timothy
This was not marked as applied on updates.orgmode.org. Doing so with the X-Woof-Patch header. miles christopher writes: > Applied, I think this should be the final version.

Re: [PATCH] ol: Avoid initial input when completing function for storing link

2021-04-24 Thread Timothy
This was not marked as applied on updates.orgmode.org. Doing so with the X-Woof-Patch header. Kyle Meyer writes: > Pushed (00b4de329).

Re: [PATCH] Apply emacs manual css to org pages

2021-04-24 Thread Timothy
For some reason updates.orgmode.org registered this as a new patch?? Marking as closed via X-Woof-Patch header. Greg Minshall writes: > Timothy, > >> This is a quick patch to use the Emacs manual CSS with our generated Org >> manual. > > that's certainly visually pleasing. nice! > > Greg

Re: [PATCH] Apply emacs manual css to org pages

2021-04-24 Thread Timothy
This was not marked as applied on updates.orgmode.org. Doing so with the X-Woof-Patch header. Bastien writes: > I made this change and tested it online, the HTML Org manual now looks > like the Emacs manual: https://orgmode.org/manual/ > > Thanks for the suggestion! > In any cas, the Emacs

Re: [final patch] Re: add new link type "contact:" for org-contacts.el

2021-04-24 Thread Timothy
This was not marked as applied on updates.orgmode.org. Doing so with the X-Woof-Patch header. Bastien writes: > Of course, done (c822c80ef). > > Sorry I forgot about this patch, and thanks for your reply.

Re: [PATCH] New "project" option for org-link-file-path-type

2021-04-24 Thread Timothy
This was not marked as applied on updates.orgmode.org. Doing so with the X-Woof-Patch header. Jack Kamm writes: > Thanks, I've fixed the remaining issues you pointed out and pushed this > in 5371b30fe. > > Cheers, > Jack

Re: [PATCH] I updated patch by deleteing duplicate tags

2021-04-24 Thread Timothy
This was not marked as applied. Doing so with the X-Woof-Patch header. Kyle Meyer writes: > Christopher Miles writes: > >> Subject: [PATCH] org.el: Complete tags from both global and buffer local > > Thanks. Applied (86ad8d279)...

Re: [PATCH] org-capture.el: Add new capture template option :refile-to

2021-04-24 Thread Timothy
Marking this patch as cancelled for updates.orgmode.org.

Re: org-cite: make 'suppress-author' a citation 'style'

2021-04-24 Thread Bruce D'Arcus
On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 4:09 PM Nicolas Goaziou wrote: > > Hello, > > "Bruce D'Arcus" writes: > > > I also came across this post from 2018 from Andras ... > > > > https://orgmode.org/list/87in8jaywk@all.hu/ > > > > ... which includes a link to his proposal on what we now call styles, > > but

[PATCH] org-capture.el: Add new capture template option :refile-to

2021-04-24 Thread Richard Garner
Hi all, (Resending after messing up the first time.) The included patch adds a new property :refile-to to org capture templates, allowing each template to have its own set of refile targets. I find this really useful in practice and thought others might too. Richard >From

Re: [PATCH] org-capture.el: Add new capture template option :refile-to

2021-04-24 Thread Richard Garner
Sorry, messed up the patch attachment, will resend in a new thread. Richard Richard Garner writes: > Hi all, > > The included patch adds a new property :refile-to to org capture > templates, allowing each template to have its own set of refile targets. > I find this really useful in

[PATCH] org-capture.el: Add new capture template option :refile-to

2021-04-24 Thread Richard Garner
Hi all, The included patch adds a new property :refile-to to org capture templates, allowing each template to have its own set of refile targets. I find this really useful in practice and thought others might too. Richard --- >From 829c1ba4805327645fcb75b35b73ecb3a1700b2f Mon Sep 17 00:00:00

Re: org-cite: make 'suppress-author' a citation 'style'

2021-04-24 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, "Bruce D'Arcus" writes: > I also came across this post from 2018 from Andras ... > > https://orgmode.org/list/87in8jaywk@all.hu/ > > ... which includes a link to his proposal on what we now call styles, > but there he calls (a la the TeX world) commands: > >

Re: org-cite: make 'suppress-author' a citation 'style'

2021-04-24 Thread Bruce D'Arcus
I also came across this post from 2018 from Andras ... https://orgmode.org/list/87in8jaywk@all.hu/ ... which includes a link to his proposal on what we now call styles, but there he calls (a la the TeX world) commands:

Re: wip-cite status question and feedback

2021-04-24 Thread Bruce D'Arcus
On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 1:47 PM Nicolas Goaziou wrote: > > Hello, > > "Bruce D'Arcus" writes: > > > Some sentence with a concluding citation [cite:@key]. > > > > ... that should end up like this: > > > > Some sentence with a concluding citation.[1] > > > > Aside: looking through the CSL spec, it

Re: wip-cite status question and feedback

2021-04-24 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, "Bruce D'Arcus" writes: > Some sentence with a concluding citation [cite:@key]. > > ... that should end up like this: > > Some sentence with a concluding citation.[1] > > Aside: looking through the CSL spec, it doesn't seem this is > documented. It obviously should be. > > And I don't

Re: wip-cite status question and feedback

2021-04-24 Thread M . ‘quintus’ Gülker
Am 23. April 2021 um 09:24 Uhr -0400 schrieb Bruce D'Arcus: > It can be that not only does the space get removed, but the note mark > is moved outside the period. > > So if you have ... > > Some sentence with a concluding citation [cite:@key]. > > ... that should end up like this: > > Some

Re: org-cite: make 'suppress-author' a citation 'style'

2021-04-24 Thread Bruce D'Arcus
On Sat, Apr 24, 2021, 1:08 PM Nicolas Goaziou wrote: > Hello, > > "Bruce D'Arcus" writes: > > > This distinction is wrong, and we should treat "suppress-author" as a > > citation style instead. > > > > The result would be: > > > > [cite/supress-author:doe19;doe20] > > > > Or even can keep the

Re: org-cite: make 'suppress-author' a citation 'style'

2021-04-24 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, "Bruce D'Arcus" writes: > This distinction is wrong, and we should treat "suppress-author" as a > citation style instead. > > The result would be: > > [cite/supress-author:doe19;doe20] > > Or even can keep the shorthand: > > [cite/-:doe19;doe20] > > In fact, with the change, could even

Re: [Patch] to correctly sort the items with emphasis marks in a list

2021-04-24 Thread Maxim Nikulin
On 21/04/2021 22:45, Juan Manuel Macías wrote: I have tried the Nicolas' patch (latest version) and I see that the items with emphasis are already ordered well. However, it seems that the problem with identical items with or without emphasis still persists: which items should go before and in

Re: wip-cite status question and feedback

2021-04-24 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, András Simonyi writes: > Thank you, this is very promising! I've checked the behaviour of > citeproc-org with and without a note style now and there is only one > additional minor difference which I forgot to mention, I don't know > how difficult would it be to implement it: When a

Re: org-cite: make 'suppress-author' a citation 'style'

2021-04-24 Thread Bruce D'Arcus
Correction, though it doesn't change the conclusion. On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 6:52 AM Bruce D'Arcus wrote: > So to get "Doe (2019) argues" you would need to write "Doe [@doe19]" > in pandoc, for example. Incorrect: the pandoc syntax for citet-like rendering is: @doe19 So to drop the brackets.

Re: (Not so) Short note about citations in Org

2021-04-24 Thread Bruce D'Arcus
On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 3:53 AM Nicolas Goaziou wrote: > > Hello, > > "Bruce D'Arcus" writes: > > > Nicolas, > > > > Quick syntax question: > > > > On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 7:34 PM Nicolas Goaziou > > wrote: > > > >> As a reminder, the full citation syntax is > >> > >> [cite/style:common

org-cite: make 'suppress-author' a citation 'style'

2021-04-24 Thread Bruce D'Arcus
Hi Nicolas, As I was working on adding a function to generate the new cite syntax, an idea occurred to me that I'd like to raise, that would simplify this model and syntax. I ran the idea by the pandoc list just to confirm my thinking was reasonable, since that has a lot of experience using

Re: Bug: Incorrect duration format example in comments in 'org-duration.el' [9.3 (release_9.3 @ /usr/share/emacs/27.1/lisp/org/)]

2021-04-24 Thread Johnson
Yes, the issue is due to using an older version of Org. I searched the change log and saw that the compact form is introduced in Org 9.4, while mine is 9.3. Thanks for your help! Sincerely, Johnson On 4/20/2021 9:42 PM, NicolasGoaziou wrote: Hello, Johnson writes: I'm contributing to

Re: (Not so) Short note about citations in Org

2021-04-24 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, M. ‘quintus’ Gülker writes: > I sometimes use emphasis around citations, but since my citation > styles all use footnotes, I think there should be no problem with > this. For example, I would write something like this (I hope I got the > syntax right): > > This is a test

Re: (Not so) Short note about citations in Org

2021-04-24 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, "Bruce D'Arcus" writes: > Nicolas, > > Quick syntax question: > > On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 7:34 PM Nicolas Goaziou > wrote: > >> As a reminder, the full citation syntax is >> >> [cite/style:common prefix ;prefix -@key suffix; ... ; common suffix] > > Is the space you have here before

Re: Bug: org-caputure fails, sometimes [9.3.7 (release_9.3.7-705-gea9463 @ /home/oub/emacs/site-lisp/packages/org/)]

2021-04-24 Thread Uwe Brauer
> Uwe Brauer writes: Hi > With this backtrace alone (which involves org-capture catching the > internal error), I think it's going to be hard for anyone to guess > what's going on here. It sounds like once you encounter this error, > subsequent calls reliably trigger it. Next time you run