[O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-10-20 Thread Eric Schulte
Hi, I have just pushed up a change to the Org-mode git repository which removes support for #+BABEL lines. Please use the more general #+PROPERTIES lines instead. Best -- Eric -- Eric Schulte http://cs.unm.edu/~eschulte/

[O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-10-31 Thread Samuel Wales
Hi Eric, Properties can be specified in the properties drawer. But multiple-line ones cannot at present (at least not without serializing the way multiple-line macros are serialized). Therefore you propose new syntax for multiple-line properties. I propose that allowing the properties drawer to

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-10-20 Thread Nick Dokos
Eric Schulte wrote: > I have just pushed up a change to the Org-mode git repository which > removes support for #+BABEL lines. Please use the more general > #+PROPERTIES lines instead. > Coming late to the dance - sorry. I think that's very confusing. "Property" is an overloaded term in org: w

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-10-20 Thread Eric Schulte
Nick Dokos writes: > Eric Schulte wrote: > >> I have just pushed up a change to the Org-mode git repository which >> removes support for #+BABEL lines. Please use the more general >> #+PROPERTIES lines instead. >> > > Coming late to the dance - sorry. I think that's very confusing. > "Property

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-10-20 Thread Nick Dokos
Eric Schulte wrote: > Nick Dokos writes: > > > Eric Schulte wrote: > > > >> I have just pushed up a change to the Org-mode git repository which > >> removes support for #+BABEL lines. Please use the more general > >> #+PROPERTIES lines instead. > >> > > > > Coming late to the dance - sorry.

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-10-20 Thread Sebastien Vauban
Hi Nick and Eric, Nick Dokos wrote: > Eric Schulte wrote: >> Nick Dokos writes: >> > Eric Schulte wrote: >> > >> >> I have just pushed up a change to the Org-mode git repository which >> >> removes support for #+BABEL lines. Please use the more general >> >> #+PROPERTIES lines instead. >> > >>

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-10-20 Thread Christian Moe
Whoa -- before this gets more confusing: Eric, did you push up a (new, or at least so far undocumented in the manual) syntax involving a #+PROPERTIES line, as Nick and Sebastien seem to understand you? Or was #+PROPERTIES just a typo, and you mean using the #+PROPERTY line or :PROPERTIES: dr

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-10-20 Thread Nick Dokos
Christian Moe wrote: > Whoa -- before this gets more confusing: > > Eric, did you push up a (new, or at least so far undocumented in the > manual) syntax involving a #+PROPERTIES line, as Nick and Sebastien > seem to understand you? > > Or was #+PROPERTIES just a typo, and you mean using the #+

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-10-20 Thread Eric Schulte
Nick Dokos writes: > Eric Schulte wrote: > >> Nick Dokos writes: >> >> > Eric Schulte wrote: >> > >> >> I have just pushed up a change to the Org-mode git repository which >> >> removes support for #+BABEL lines. Please use the more general >> >> #+PROPERTIES lines instead. >> >> >> > >> >

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-10-20 Thread suvayu ali
Hi Eric, On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 11:34 PM, Eric Schulte wrote: > 2. The existing #+PROPERTY: line may now be used to specify values for >   header arguments, e.g., > >   #+PROPERTY: results silent > >   would silence all results in the current buffer. > Is the 'results' without a preceding colon

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-10-20 Thread Sebastien Vauban
Hi Eric, Eric Schulte wrote: > Nick Dokos writes: >> Eric Schulte wrote: >>> Nick Dokos writes: >>> > Eric Schulte wrote: >>> > >>> >> I have just pushed up a change to the Org-mode git repository which >>> >> removes support for #+BABEL lines. Please use the more general >>> >> #+PROPERTIES

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-10-20 Thread Nick Dokos
Eric Schulte wrote: > ... I've just pushed up what I > consider to be a clean implementation. Put briefly the new behavior is > that "properties may be used to specify header arguments". More > completely... > > 1. The #+PROPERTIES: (and #+BABEL:) directives no longer exist. > > 2. The exist

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-10-20 Thread Eric Schulte
suvayu ali writes: > Hi Eric, > > On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 11:34 PM, Eric Schulte wrote: >> 2. The existing #+PROPERTY: line may now be used to specify values for >> header arguments, e.g., >> >> #+PROPERTY: results silent >> >> would silence all results in the current buffer. >> > > Is the

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-10-20 Thread Eric Schulte
"Sebastien Vauban" writes: > Hi Eric, > > Eric Schulte wrote: >> Nick Dokos writes: >>> Eric Schulte wrote: Nick Dokos writes: > Eric Schulte wrote: > >> I have just pushed up a change to the Org-mode git repository which >> removes support for #+BABEL lines. Please

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-10-20 Thread Nick Dokos
Sebastien Vauban wrote: > I just have one question, as I'm puzzled by the lack of `:' in front of the > "properties": how do we distinguish the argument "value" from the argument > "name"? > > For example, how do we translate, in the new syntax, > > #+BABEL::results output code append > >

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-10-20 Thread Eric Schulte
Nick Dokos writes: > Eric Schulte wrote: > >> ... I've just pushed up what I >> consider to be a clean implementation. Put briefly the new behavior is >> that "properties may be used to specify header arguments". More >> completely... >> >> 1. The #+PROPERTIES: (and #+BABEL:) directives no l

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-10-20 Thread Nick Dokos
Eric Schulte wrote: > > Other than "colon confusion" (having to specify ``:results silent'' on > > the src block header line and ``results silent'' in the #+PROPERTY line > > to get the same behavior), this looks better. Not sure what (if > > anything) can or should be done about the colons. > >

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-10-20 Thread Eric Schulte
Nick Dokos writes: > Eric Schulte wrote: > >> > Other than "colon confusion" (having to specify ``:results silent'' on >> > the src block header line and ``results silent'' in the #+PROPERTY line >> > to get the same behavior), this looks better. Not sure what (if >> > anything) can or should be

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-10-20 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 15:52:42 -0600 Eric Schulte wrote: > suvayu ali writes: > > > Hi Eric, > > > > On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 11:34 PM, Eric Schulte > > wrote: > >> 2. The existing #+PROPERTY: line may now be used to specify values > >> for header arguments, e.g., > >> > >> #+PROPERTY: results

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-10-21 Thread Sebastien Vauban
Hi Eric and Nick, Eric Schulte wrote: > Nick Dokos writes: >> Eric Schulte wrote: >> >>> > Other than "colon confusion" (having to specify ``:results silent'' on >>> > the src block header line and ``results silent'' in the #+PROPERTY line >>> > to get the same behavior), this looks better. Not

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-10-21 Thread Christian Moe
Hi again, I can quickly think of two advantages of the late lamented (if only by me) #+BABEL header over using properties. 1. Allowing you to specify multiple buffer-wide options on the same line (keeping things short), in the same colon :syntax as used in a src block header (keeping things

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-10-21 Thread Rainer M Krug
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Christian Moe wrote: > Hi again, > > I can quickly think of two advantages of the late lamented (if only by me) > #+BABEL header over using properties. > I also think that keeping the #+BABEL would be a good idea, as it keeps the options for babel separate (as ar

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-10-21 Thread Christian Moe
On 10/21/11 11:12 AM, Rainer M Krug wrote: On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Christian Moe mailto:m...@christianmoe.com>> wrote: (...) 2. Allowing you to pass multiple buffer-wide arguments with :var. This could make a substantive difference in some applications. The following wil

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-10-21 Thread Rainer M Krug
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 12:47 PM, Christian Moe wrote: > On 10/21/11 11:12 AM, Rainer M Krug wrote: > >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Christian Moe > **> wrote: >> > (...) > > 2. Allowing you to pass multiple buffer-wide arguments with :var. >>This

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-10-21 Thread Christian Moe
On 10/21/11 12:59 PM, Rainer M Krug wrote: So, using your above mentioned example, after the first PROPERTY line, euro=1.3795 and SALESTAX not set, while after the second one salestax=.15, and euro is unset? That would be quite bad. That's what I'd expected, but actually, euro is set and sales

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-10-21 Thread Rainer M Krug
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Christian Moe wrote: > On 10/21/11 12:59 PM, Rainer M Krug wrote: > > So, using your above mentioned example, after the first PROPERTY line, >> euro=1.3795 and SALESTAX not set, while after the second one >> salestax=.15, and euro is unset? That would be quite bad

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-10-21 Thread Eric Schulte
Christian Moe writes: > Hi again, > > I can quickly think of two advantages of the late lamented (if only by > me) #+BABEL header over using properties. > > 1. Allowing you to specify multiple buffer-wide options on the same > line (keeping things short), in the same colon :syntax as used in a

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-10-21 Thread Nick Dokos
Eric Schulte wrote: > > > > 2. Allowing you to pass multiple buffer-wide arguments with :var. This > > could make a substantive difference in some applications. The > > following will work: > > > >#+BABEL: :var euro=1.3791 :var salestax=.15 > > > > The following will not, since it tries to s

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-10-21 Thread Rainer M Krug
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 7:37 PM, Eric Schulte wrote: > Christian Moe writes: > > > Hi again, > > > > I can quickly think of two advantages of the late lamented (if only by > > me) #+BABEL header over using properties. > > > > 1. Allowing you to specify multiple buffer-wide options on the same > >

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-10-21 Thread Rainer M Krug
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 8:35 PM, Rainer M Krug wrote: > > > On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 7:37 PM, Eric Schulte wrote: > >> Christian Moe writes: >> >> > Hi again, >> > >> > I can quickly think of two advantages of the late lamented (if only by >> > me) #+BABEL header over using properties. >> > >> >

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-10-21 Thread Christian Moe
Hi, Yes, that works nicely, and should solve Rainer's problem. I haven't been able to think of anything else that can't be handled by properties. And I do think it's a good idea to winnow down the syntax a bit, even if things break. I just like to grumble. :-) Yours, Christian On 10/21/11

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-10-21 Thread Darlan Cavalcante Moreira
It's excellent that now babel understands multiple values in the "var" property (I was one of the people that wanted this), but "There Is One More Thing". Would it be feasible to inherit variables from parent sub-trees? Effectively, I'd like to append new values in lower level sub-trees, but AFA

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-10-22 Thread Sebastien Vauban
Hi Darlan, Darlan Cavalcante Moreira wrote: > It's excellent that now babel understands multiple values in the "var" > property (I was one of the people that wanted this), but "There Is One More > Thing". > > Would it be feasible to inherit variables from parent sub-trees? > Effectively, I'd like

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-10-22 Thread Christian Moe
On 10/21/11 8:40 PM, Rainer M Krug wrote: Just to add to it: at the moment I have e.g: #+BABEL: :var MAINVERSION=0 #+BABEL: :var SVNVERSION=(vc-working-revision (buffer-file-name)) #+BABEL: :var SVNSTATE=( symbol-name (vc-state (or (buffer-file-name) org-current-export-file))) #+BABEL: :var SV

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-10-22 Thread Eric Schulte
> Will > > #+PROPERTY: var foo=1 > #+PROPERTY: var bar=2 > > also work, or result in one variable not signed? > Try it out :) This is a question about property behavior not specific to code blocks. I believe that the second line will override the first, which is why it was necessary to be able to

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-10-22 Thread Eric Schulte
> > Just to clarify my understanding: on a #+PROPERTY line, you *have* to > say > > #+PROPERTY: var a=1, b=2 > > but in the code block itself, you can say *either* > > #+begin_src emacs-lisp :var a=1, b=2 > ... > > > *or* > > #+begin_src emacs-lisp :var a=1 :var b=2 > ... > correct > > Experiment

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-10-22 Thread Eric Schulte
> > Just to add to it: at the moment I have e.g: > > #+BABEL: :var MAINVERSION=0 > #+BABEL: :var SVNVERSION=(vc-working-revision (buffer-file-name)) > #+BABEL: :var SVNSTATE=( symbol-name (vc-state (or (buffer-file-name) > org-current-export-file))) > #+BABEL: :var SVNSTATENUM=(if (eq (vc-state (o

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-10-22 Thread Eric Schulte
Darlan Cavalcante Moreira writes: > It's excellent that now babel understands multiple values in the "var" > property (I was one of the people that wanted this), but "There Is One More > Thing". > > Would it be feasible to inherit variables from parent sub-trees? > Effectively, I'd like to append

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-10-22 Thread Christian Moe
Hi, Eric Schulte wrote: I can think of three options for how to handle this situation. 1. If it turns out to be possible/desirable my preferred solution here would be to add general property support for appending values to properties when properties are over specified (...) 2. Adding a "

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-10-24 Thread Rainer M Krug
On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Christian Moe wrote: > On 10/21/11 8:40 PM, Rainer M Krug wrote: > >> >> >> Just to add to it: at the moment I have e.g: >> >> #+BABEL: :var MAINVERSION=0 >> #+BABEL: :var SVNVERSION=(vc-working-**revision (buffer-file-name)) >> #+BABEL: :var SVNSTATE=( symbol-name

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-10-24 Thread Rainer M Krug
On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Eric Schulte wrote: > > > > Just to add to it: at the moment I have e.g: > > > > #+BABEL: :var MAINVERSION=0 > > #+BABEL: :var SVNVERSION=(vc-working-revision (buffer-file-name)) > > #+BABEL: :var SVNSTATE=( symbol-name (vc-state (or (buffer-file-name) > org-curren

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-10-24 Thread Rainer M Krug
On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 9:07 PM, Christian Moe wrote: > Hi, > > > Eric Schulte wrote: > >> >> > I can think of three options for how to handle this situation. >> >> 1. If it turns out to be possible/desirable my preferred solution >> here would be to add general property support for appending val

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-10-24 Thread Christian Moe
This all sounds very interesting, but I have problems understanding the advantages - possibly because I only had one coffee this morning. It may not be feasible and the disadvantages may outnumber the advantages; we'll see. But having several coffees under my belt already, I'll argue my corn

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-10-24 Thread Sebastien Vauban
Hi all, Christian Moe wrote: >> This all sounds very interesting, but I have problems understanding >> the advantages - possibly because I only had one coffee this morning. > > I think some of the advantages should be clear. > > A second advantage: > --- > > It would allow a great

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-10-24 Thread Christian Moe
On 10/24/11 2:11 PM, Sebastien Vauban wrote: (...) But I just have a comment on your second advantage, something that can render your example inefficient: inheritance is not on by default, and you need to enable if for *specific properties*. You can set `org-use-property-inheritance' to t, to

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-10-24 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, Christian Moe writes: > But you're right, property inheritance is not on by default and > I forgot to mention that this time around. (I think I did mention it > in the previous long message where I presented the idea.) AFAIK, Babel has always searched its properties with inheritance on,

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-10-24 Thread Darlan Cavalcante Moreira
I didn't check the list for 3 days and this thread became a little hard to follow. So, forgive me if I'm "answering" the wrong E-Mail. I liked Christian's idea of using a single "var" property to tell babel which regular properties it should use as variables (ignoring any variable not defined).

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-10-25 Thread Sebastien Vauban
Hi Eric, Eric Schulte wrote: >> #+BABEL: :var SVNVERSION=(vc-working-revision (buffer-file-name)) >> #+BABEL: :var SVNSTATE=( symbol-name (vc-state (or (buffer-file-name) >> org-current-export-file))) >> #+BABEL: :var SVNSTATENUM=(if (eq (vc-state (or (buffer-file-name) >> org-current-export-fil

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-10-25 Thread Rainer M Krug
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Sebastien Vauban < wxhgmqzgw...@spammotel.com> wrote: > Hi Eric, > > Eric Schulte wrote: > >> #+BABEL: :var SVNVERSION=(vc-working-revision (buffer-file-name)) > >> #+BABEL: :var SVNSTATE=( symbol-name (vc-state (or (buffer-file-name) > org-current-export-file)))

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-10-25 Thread Sebastien Vauban
Hi Rainer, Rainer M Krug wrote: >> While thinking about all of this, and working in real-life documents, I >> just >> came back to a suggestion which I made some time ago. It goes about this >> enhancement: >> >>Would it be possible to specify "buffer-wide language specific" header >>argum

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-10-25 Thread Rainer M Krug
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Sebastien Vauban < wxhgmqzgw...@spammotel.com> wrote: > Hi Rainer, > > Rainer M Krug wrote: > >> While thinking about all of this, and working in real-life documents, I > >> just > >> came back to a suggestion which I made some time ago. It goes about this > >> en

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-10-25 Thread Eric Schulte
> I think that makes sense. > > While thinking about all of this, and working in real-life documents, I just > came back to a suggestion which I made some time ago. It goes about this > enhancement: > > Would it be possible to specify "buffer-wide language specific" header > arguments? > Y

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-10-26 Thread Sebastien Vauban
Hi Eric, Eric Schulte wrote: >> I think that makes sense. >> >> While thinking about all of this, and working in real-life documents, I just >> came back to a suggestion which I made some time ago. It goes about this >> enhancement: >> >> Would it be possible to specify "buffer-wide language s

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-10-26 Thread Eric Schulte
"Sebastien Vauban" writes: > Hi Eric, > > Eric Schulte wrote: >>> I think that makes sense. >>> >>> While thinking about all of this, and working in real-life documents, I just >>> came back to a suggestion which I made some time ago. It goes about this >>> enhancement: >>> >>> Would it be po

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-10-31 Thread Eric Schulte
It is now possible to specify multi-line properties using a property block. This should make it more natural to specify many file-wide variables through properties. For example, #+begin_property var foo=1, bar=2, baz=3, qux=4 #+end_property #+begin_src emacs-li

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-10-31 Thread Samuel Wales
On 2011-10-31, Eric Schulte wrote: > It is now possible to specify multi-line properties using a property > block. This should make it more natural to specify many file-wide > variables through properties. For example, Could this be changed to work using the property drawer?

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-10-31 Thread Eric Schulte
My concerns with respect to a property drawer solution are two fold. 1) In the same way that #+PROPERTY: assumes its value will live on a single line, property drawers assume that their values will live on a single line. I don't see how it will be easier to fold multi-line properties int

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-11-01 Thread Nick Dokos
Eric Schulte wrote: > My concerns with respect to a property drawer solution are two fold. > > 1) In the same way that #+PROPERTY: assumes its value will live on a >single line, property drawers assume that their values will live on a >single line. I don't see how it will be easier to f

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-11-01 Thread Nick Dokos
Nick Dokos wrote: > Can we please back off this path? In order to prevent confusion or needless argument: the path I think we should back off of is the committing of these changes to master - I think the work should be done in a branch and cooked thoroughly before merging it to master. I did

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-11-01 Thread Eric Schulte
Nick Dokos writes: > Nick Dokos wrote: > > >> Can we please back off this path? > > In order to prevent confusion or needless argument: the path I think we > should back off of is the committing of these changes to master - I think > the work should be done in a branch and cooked thoroughly bef

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-11-02 Thread Rainer M Krug
On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 4:17 PM, Eric Schulte wrote: > Nick Dokos writes: > > > Nick Dokos wrote: > > > > > >> Can we please back off this path? > > > > In order to prevent confusion or needless argument: the path I think we > > should back off of is the committing of these changes to master - I

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-11-02 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, Rainer M Krug writes: > Then one should possibly also think of merging #+LATEX into #+PROPERTY - > which I think would make it more consistent (and this is a serious > suggestion). Are you sure you're talking about the "#+LATEX:" keywords, allowing to insert LaTeX code only for the LaTeX

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-11-02 Thread Brian Wightman
On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Eric Schulte wrote: > This is also after all the development repository, and while I do try > very hard never to break this head of this repository at the same time I > think it is an acceptable place to try out new functionality. Given that a common recommendatio

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-11-02 Thread Rainer M Krug
On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Nicolas Goaziou wrote: > Hello, > > Rainer M Krug writes: > > > Then one should possibly also think of merging #+LATEX into #+PROPERTY - > > which I think would make it more consistent (and this is a serious > > suggestion). > > Are you sure you're talking about t

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-11-02 Thread Rainer M Krug
On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Brian Wightman wrote: > On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Eric Schulte > wrote: > > This is also after all the development repository, and while I do try > > very hard never to break this head of this repository at the same time I > > think it is an acceptable place

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-11-02 Thread Bastien
Hi Brian, Brian Wightman writes: > Given that a common recommendation for a bug fix is to 'try commit > blah blah blah', would it make sense to have bug fixes go onto a > 'maint' branch (as well as master), and new features / changed > features stay on the master branch? Yes, this makes sense

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-11-03 Thread Eric Schulte
>> > >> > In order to prevent confusion or needless argument: the path I >> >think we should back off of is the committing of these changes to >> >master - I think the work should be done in a branch and cooked >> >thoroughly before merging it to master. >> > >> > > Partly agree here - I was bitten

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-11-03 Thread Jambunathan K
Rainer - if he feels uncomfortable - can choose *not* to update his git repo and switch his local checkout to a historical version. > [1] to see the info page evaluate (info "(elisp)File Local > Variables") A usage note for adding these variables without straining the brain. M-x add-file-local

Re: [O] [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines

2011-11-04 Thread Rainer M Krug
Eric: Thanks - but for the moment I will go with Jambunathan's suggestion and stick with the latest version before the removal of BABEL. For the record, I created a local branch before the removal of BABEL and used git checkout MyBranch to switch to this branch. So I can keep my local git repo u