Re: [O] Efficiency of Org v. LaTeX v. Word

2015-01-04 Thread Andreas Leha
Hi John, John Kitchin writes: > Ken Mankoff writes: > > Did anyone see the parody of this here: > http://mjambon.github.io/vim-vs-emacs/ > > It is pretty funny! Indeed. Thanks for sharing. Regards, Andreas > >> People here might be interested in a publication from [2014-12-19 Fri] >> availa

Re: [O] Efficiency of Org v. LaTeX v. Word

2015-01-04 Thread John Kitchin
Ken Mankoff writes: Did anyone see the parody of this here: http://mjambon.github.io/vim-vs-emacs/ It is pretty funny! > People here might be interested in a publication from [2014-12-19 Fri] > available at http://dx.doi.org/10.1371/journal.pone.0115069 > > Title: An Efficiency Comparison of Do

Re: [O] Efficiency of Org v. LaTeX v. Word

2014-12-31 Thread Paul Rudin
M writes: >> Von: Paul Rudin >> >> No mention of emacs... who uses anything else to prepare their LaTeX? >> > Did you forget the " ;-)" or are you serious? I wasn't being entirely serious; but I was alluding to a serious point. You can't really compare a command line typesetting system alone

Re: [O] Efficiency of Org v. LaTeX v. Word ---LOOK AT THE DATA!

2014-12-31 Thread Colin Baxter
Dear Christophe, Great work. You should submit it to http://www.plosone.org/ as a response. It would be interesting to see what the Referees make of it. Best wishes, Colin. > Hi all, > > After seeing Ken's mail: > > Le 26/12/2014 23:47, Ken Mankoff a écrit : >> People here might be interested

Re: [O] Efficiency of Org v. LaTeX v. Word ---LOOK AT THE DATA!

2014-12-29 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Aloha Christophe, I think you make a good case for the authors' poor choice of metrics. These aren't well defined in the paper, so it is enlightening to see your graphics and learn how their metrics were ineptly designed. I hope you'll make your findings known to the PLOS audience. This looks to

Re: [O] Efficiency of Org v. LaTeX v. Word

2014-12-28 Thread Pascal Fleury
perience is that publishers charge much more for > LaTeX documents than for Word (or similar tools) documents and they are > reluctant to use LaTeX because of its complexity. > > That was my $0.02 > > Fabrice > > 2014-12-27 11:36 GMT+01:00 M : > >> > Von: Paul Rudin >

Re: [O] Efficiency of Org v. LaTeX v. Word

2014-12-28 Thread Bob Newell
The "study" is an obvious diatribe couched in (poorly done) scientific method. It almost seems like these researchers have at some time been required to use LaTeX and are angry over it. I will agree that LaTeX is slower and less efficient than LibreOffice (I don't have Word on any of my computers

Re: [O] Efficiency of Org v. LaTeX v. Word

2014-12-27 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Saturday, 27 Dec 2014 at 04:06, Peter Neilson wrote: [...] > My conclusions? If your paper is trivial and you are under pressure to > produce it quickly, then MS Word might be the best tool. Actually, I don't think I can get any faster than using org for a trivial paper needed quickly... I'm

Re: [O] Efficiency of Org v. LaTeX v. Word

2014-12-27 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Friday, 26 Dec 2014 at 21:21, briangpowell . wrote: [...] > Word is in a different class of software, the 2 aren't comparable at all. Indeed. Nonsense article, in my opinion. Comparing apples and oranges. In any case, as my writing is very highly equation based, I think I'll stick to LaTeX

Re: [O] Efficiency of Org v. LaTeX v. Word

2014-12-27 Thread Daniele Pizzolli
Hello, Ken Mankoff writes: > People here might be interested in a publication from [2014-12-19 Fri] > available at http://dx.doi.org/10.1371/journal.pone.0115069 > > Title: An Efficiency Comparison of Document Preparation Systems Used > in Academic Research and Development > > Summary: Word users

Re: [O] Efficiency of Org v. LaTeX v. Word

2014-12-27 Thread Fabrice Popineau
or Word (or similar tools) documents and they are reluctant to use LaTeX because of its complexity. That was my $0.02 Fabrice 2014-12-27 11:36 GMT+01:00 M : > > Von: Paul Rudin > > Datum: Sat, 27 Dec 2014 10:05:19 + > > An: > > Betreff: Re: [O] Efficiency of

Re: [O] Efficiency of Org v. LaTeX v. Word

2014-12-27 Thread M
> Von: Paul Rudin > Datum: Sat, 27 Dec 2014 10:05:19 + > An: > Betreff: Re: [O] Efficiency of Org v. LaTeX v. Word > > Ken Mankoff writes: > >> People here might be interested in a publication from [2014-12-19 Fri] >> available at http://dx.doi

Re: [O] Efficiency of Org v. LaTeX v. Word

2014-12-27 Thread Paul Rudin
Ken Mankoff writes: > People here might be interested in a publication from [2014-12-19 Fri] > available at http://dx.doi.org/10.1371/journal.pone.0115069 > > Title: An Efficiency Comparison of Document Preparation Systems Used > in Academic Research and Development > > Summary: Word users are mo

Re: [O] Efficiency of Org v. LaTeX v. Word

2014-12-27 Thread Achim Gratz
Am 26.12.2014 um 23:47 schrieb Ken Mankoff: People here might be interested in a publication from [2014-12-19 Fri] available at http://dx.doi.org/10.1371/journal.pone.0115069 Title: An Efficiency Comparison of Document Preparation Systems Used in Academic Research and Development Summary: Word

Re: [O] Efficiency of Org v. LaTeX v. Word

2014-12-27 Thread Peter Neilson
On Fri, 26 Dec 2014 23:27:37 -0500, Nick Dokos wrote: Anyway, color me deeply suspicious of the "study". Indeed! The study touches only a few of the inherent difficulties in document production. Its major flaw is that it draws any conclusions at all recommending that authors produce docu

Re: [O] Efficiency of Org v. LaTeX v. Word

2014-12-26 Thread Nick Dokos
Ken Mankoff writes: > People here might be interested in a publication from [2014-12-19 Fri] > available at http://dx.doi.org/10.1371/journal.pone.0115069 > > Title: An Efficiency Comparison of Document Preparation Systems Used > in Academic Research and Development > > Summary: Word users are mo

Re: [O] Efficiency of Org v. LaTeX v. Word

2014-12-26 Thread Christopher W. Ryan
This seems like more of a typing contest than anything else. Reproducing a single page of an already-typeset document is not what LaTeX is designed for, nor is it what scientists do for a living. The test selections were absurdly short relative to the typical scientic manuscript. Long and complex d

Re: [O] Efficiency of Org v. LaTeX v. Word

2014-12-26 Thread briangpowell .
Word is a desktop publishing system. LaTeX is a macro language which lays on top of TeX=Tau-Epsilon-Chi~Art in Greek TeX is computerized typesetting that enables vector graphics--you can get TeX to draw anything you want--you can even create your own font. More Math journals and books you'd find

Re: [O] Efficiency of Org v. LaTeX v. Word

2014-12-26 Thread Thomas S. Dye
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[O] Efficiency of Org v. LaTeX v. Word

2014-12-26 Thread Ken Mankoff
People here might be interested in a publication from [2014-12-19 Fri] available at http://dx.doi.org/10.1371/journal.pone.0115069 Title: An Efficiency Comparison of Document Preparation Systems Used in Academic Research and Development Summary: Word users are more efficient and have less errors